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Old 09-06-2008, 04:04 PM
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Silent Sarah

Is she scared -- or is the McCain campaign afraid of her showing her ignorance? I understand she's been being extensively tutored on foreign policy lately.

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As is The Ticket's custom, a post listing the entire roster of appearances on this Sunday's interview programs will pop up Saturday at noon PDT (3 p.m. EDT).

But here's an advance heads up, in part because of who WON'T be found on any of the chat shows.

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin campaigning with the top of the Republican ticket, John McCain Three of the four now-official candidates on the major-party presidential tickets are scheduled to sit down for questions: Democrat Barack Obama on ABC's "This Week," his running mate, Joe Biden, on NBC's "Meet the Press" and Republican John McCain on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Absent from this list, of course, is the GOP's star of the moment, the not-so-long-ago obscure governor of Alaska who is McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin.

Since she was thrust onto the national stage a week ago, her appearances on it have been tightly regulated by the McCain campaign: a few side-by-side campaign stops with him and, of course, her big speech to the GOP's convention Wednesday night.

Today, top McCain aide Rick Davis indicated the campaign isn't in any hurry to slot Palin for a Sunday show appearance -- and will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket's purposes, not because some may view it as a required initiation for a major political player.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."

Palin still will be busy this weekend. She'll campaign Saturday with McCain in three key states -- Indiana, Colorado and New Mexico -- and she'll deliver his campaign's weekly radio address. That's one of those trappings of the presidency McCain has borrowed (notwithstanding the barbs his forces like to sling at Obama along these lines).
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:35 PM
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She has not been silent. Since the RNC convention ended 2 nights ago Palin has been on numerous campagin stops with McCain. She is speaking at all of the meetings.

McCain and Palin is suppose to be in Missouri Monday, and likely Ohio and Pennsylvania on Tuesday.
She is then slated to leave to go back to Alaska in the middle part of next week seeing her son off that is going to be deployed to Iraq.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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She has not faced a single question. She has been scripted every step of the way, without a single spontaneous moment.

What's she afraid of? What's McCain afraid of?

Perhaps I should have titled the thread "Scared Sarah."
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:53 PM
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She has not faced a single question. She has been scripted every step of the way, without a single spontaneous moment.

What's she afraid of? What's McCain afraid of?

Perhaps I should have titled the thread "Scared Sarah."

No, you're getting confused. It's the Democrats who are SCARED of Sarah. That's why they have to make up lies and do a little spinning just to keep the democrats focused.
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We aren't scared of Sarah. We just would like to have more insight into her political views.

We like to deal in reality and nobody knows Sarah very well.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:18 PM
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Maybe Todd is willing to talk . . . to give credit to the Republicans, we might be scared of Sarah if we knew what she had to say.

I know the stuff I read about her is pretty terrifying.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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We aren't scared of Sarah. We just would like to have more insight into her political views.

We like to deal in reality and nobody knows Sarah very well.
If you are interested in Palin's views..just do a youtube search.
There are some interviews that are available from this year. Several with Glen Beck (but I don't think you like him).
Palin doen't agree with McCain with everything. I hope she continues to speak her mind.

YouTube - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on Larry Kudlow

In the video above she speaks about her views on energy.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:57 PM
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I would like to see an interview with Palin that wasn't done by a representative of the Republican party, as Glen Beck is for all intents and purposes. Is Kudlow not one of them? I've never heard of him.

ETA: Ah, CNBC. Thanks for the link. I'll be listening. Appreciate it.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:16 PM
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No, you're getting confused. It's the Democrats who are SCARED of Sarah. That's why they have to make up lies and do a little spinning just to keep the democrats focused.


What does this have to do with the FACT that she won't/isn't allowed to speak to the media? How the hell are yall going to convince independents to vote for her if they can't even watch her get interviewed on CNN, NBC, ABC, etc.? How the HELL is she supposed to be a good VP if she can't even hold her own the U.S. press corps, much less world press and leaders???


Oh wait! I know the answer to that! Dems are scared. Apparently that's the new Republican catch phrase.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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Why are you SO worried about it if you have no intention of voting for her anyway??

I can't wait to hear her and I have little doubt that she will be able to hold her own.

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Old 09-06-2008, 08:48 PM
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Why are you SO worried about it if you have no intention of voting for her anyway??
I gather that you won't be posting in any threads about Obama, then, if you have no intention of voting for him anyway.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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No, you're probably wrong about that. lol

What I was getting at is that the poster seemed overly concerned about Gov. Palin giving interviews. Why?

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Why are you SO worried about it if you have no intention of voting for her anyway??

I can't wait to hear her and I have little doubt that she will be able to hold her own.

Melissa
Because if she's running to become VP of the country I live in, I deserve to know her views on things. Or is that non sequitur to republicans now?
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:05 PM
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I'm so over it.

I'm still so disappointed with the GOP for choosing her.
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Old 09-06-2008, 10:27 PM
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Because if she's running to become VP of the country I live in, I deserve to know her views on things. Or is that non sequitur to republicans now?
And I would still like to know what makes Obama worthy of the Presidency....oh yes, community organizer!!!! Obama is full of promises and pie in the sky ideals. McCain has a 25+ year record not to mentioin is service to this country in the armed forces.
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..... McCain has a 25+ year record not to mentioin is service to this country in the armed forces.

Not to mention a VP candidate by his side with duct tape covering her mouth.
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Not to mention a VP candidate by his side with duct tape covering her mouth.
That certainly is not true. GEESH!!
She is speaking at rally meeting all over the place.

Most news even has her quotes today about the bailout of Freedie/ Fannie Mae.

Candidates React to Mortgage Giant Bailout - America’s Election HQ

(Well, I don't see Biden mention anywhere in that article or others)

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Old 09-06-2008, 10:56 PM
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That certainly is not true. GEESH!!
She is speaking at rally meeting all over the place.

Most news even has her quotes today about the bailout of Freedie/ Fannie Mae.
Which ones have interviews?
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Old 09-06-2008, 10:58 PM
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Cannot wait for the debates...when the pedal hits the metal!
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:08 PM
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Which ones have interviews?
You do not have to have a set-down type of interview to know the views that someone has. She is out on the campaign trail talking.

If you truly want to know her views on different issues just goggle or youtube previous interviews.
That is what I done to learn about Obama, if I waited on him to do a set-down interview I would have waited a long time.
He finally made time, after promising months ago, to do the Bill O'Reilly interview.

I doubt very much if most posters on here will do their own research.

The "People" magazine interview comes out this week. It was done last week but it comes out now.
ETA: Sarah Palin Talks About Her Family Struggles : People.com

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Old 09-06-2008, 11:14 PM
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I doubt very much if the GOP will allow her to do any sit down interviews. I want to know how she handles herself in an interview. How she responds to questions that are unexpected, uneasy, and/or hard. I want to know why she's said some the stuff she's said, etc.

Again I ask, where are those interviews?
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That certainly is not true. GEESH!!
She is speaking at rally meeting all over the place.

Most news even has her quotes today about the bailout of Freedie/ Fannie Mae.

Candidates React to Mortgage Giant Bailout - America’s Election HQ

(Well, I don't see Biden mention anywhere in that article or others)
The OP was about her not being scheduled on any of the "sunday" political shows. She has, to be fair, made numerous campaign stops with Senator McCain but hasn't appeared without him at all. She'll be heading back to Alaska for a week or more in the next few days. Thinking it's not out of line to expect that a VP candidate would be taking questions from the press within a week or 2 of her acceptance of the nomination.
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Is she scared -- or is the McCain campaign afraid of her showing her ignorance? I understand she's been being extensively tutored on foreign policy lately.



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You do understand that Obama is too, right?

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Every day around 8 a.m., foreign policy aides at Senator Barack Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters send him two e-mails: a briefing on major world developments over the previous 24 hours and a set of questions, accompanied by suggested answers, that the candidate is likely to be asked about international relations during the day.
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You do not have to have a set-down type of interview to know the views that someone has. She is out on the campaign trail talking.

If you truly want to know her views on different issues just goggle or youtube previous interviews.
That is what I done to learn about Obama, if I waited on him to do a set-down interview I would have waited a long time.
He finally made time, after promising months ago, to do the Bill O'Reilly interview.

I doubt very much if most posters on here will do their own research.

The "People" magazine interview comes out this week. It was done last week but it comes out now.
ETA: Sarah Palin Talks About Her Family Struggles : People.com
It is a shame that you actually believe that you are the only poster on here who cares enough about what is going on in this campaign time to do their own research. But, contrary to your beliefs, there are many of us here who have done extensive research on both ticket members. It is a shame you feel so superior to all of us. Pretty shallow of you to think so. You ARE wrong, by the way.
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You do understand that Obama is too, right?

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Every day around 8 a.m., foreign policy aides at Senator Barack Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters send him two e-mails: a briefing on major world developments over the previous 24 hours and a set of questions, accompanied by suggested answers, that the candidate is likely to be asked about international relations during the day.
That's a great article. Thanks for mentioning it. Here's a link although it requires registration to read the whole piece.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/us...partner=rssnyt
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You would think that the election is nothing more than a Bears vs Packers football game. Of course any person with a brain wants to hear Palin answer some questions on things that really matter like the economy, health care, education and foreign policy. Just because I am a Democrat doesn't mean I automatically vote for the nominee. I want to hear which candidate best fits my viewpoint be it Republican or Democrat. Keeping her away from the questions only makes her appear unwilling or unable to answer the questions. If she is unable to answer questions from a news anchor how in the heck will she ever be able to hold her own with foriegn leaders? Oh the packaging is great - a strong woman, able to balance a family and a career, and witty. She can take on the men. She is also a no bull**** type of woman. You know Roseann Barr is all of those but do I want her to be president? Why is it that as soon as it is election time people just automaticall are fed the bull**** of the parties and don't questions anything. This is not a football game. There are some real issues here and now. We are leaving our kids in a world of hurt. We are giving them a huge debt, destroying the planet and not too many people seen to give a crap. This election is huge, we better start acting like it and use our minds. Listen to what the candidates are saying, and more importantly what they are leaving out. Are they twisting facts? If they are doing that now what do you think they will do if elected? Bottom line is this woman needs to grow some stones and answer the questions. Maybe she will do great maybe not. But I for one am not willing to bet my future and my kids futures on some whitty one liners and some stump speeches.
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That's a great article. Thanks for mentioning it. Here's a link although it requires registration to read the whole piece.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/us...partner=rssnyt
Yeah, I thought it was interesting too. 300 advisors! Damn! I think that's a good thing.

I just thought that the original post about Palin needing foreign policy tutoring was silly. . .somehow implying that Obama wasn't getting any.
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You would think that the election is nothing more than a Bears vs Packers football game. Of course any person with a brain wants to hear Palin answer some questions on things that really matter like the economy, health care, education and foreign policy. Just because I am a Democrat doesn't mean I automatically vote for the nominee. I want to hear which candidate best fits my viewpoint be it Republican or Democrat. Keeping her away from the questions only makes her appear unwilling or unable to answer the questions. If she is unable to answer questions from a news anchor how in the heck will she ever be able to hold her own with foriegn leaders? Oh the packaging is great - a strong woman, able to balance a family and a career, and witty. She can take on the men. She is also a no bull**** type of woman. You know Roseann Barr is all of those but do I want her to be president? Why is it that as soon as it is election time people just automaticall are fed the bull**** of the parties and don't questions anything. This is not a football game. There are some real issues here and now. We are leaving our kids in a world of hurt. We are giving them a huge debt, destroying the planet and not too many people seen to give a crap. This election is huge, we better start acting like it and use our minds. Listen to what the candidates are saying, and more importantly what they are leaving out. Are they twisting facts? If they are doing that now what do you think they will do if elected? Bottom line is this woman needs to grow some stones and answer the questions. Maybe she will do great maybe not. But I for one am not willing to bet my future and my kids futures on some whitty one liners and some stump speeches.

Good post! I think she probably isn't ready yet, she did just get pulled into this mess, while the other three have been in it for some time now. I don't think it implies that she won't ever be ready though. The debates should be interesting. Btw. . .by the time the election is actually here, I think you will have heard enough about where she stands to probably make you sick. LOL
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Forest, thanks for that CNBC piece you linked above. That was really good. What I find most heartening about it is that it was done before she was chosen to be on the ticket, and she certainly hadn't been coached by anyone from the McCain camp.... and she's very articulate and outspoken and confident about her positions on energy. She mentioned Bush sending someone to Saudi (or was it Bush himself talking to Saudi? Or both?) to ask them to ramp up production, and that she believed that was silly given that the USA has its own oil it can be producing if congress would just unlock it.

I also appreciated hearing her say that it would take about five years to get oil from ANWR into our energy system. You hear all sorts of wildly divergent numbers there - from the leftist "It'll take ten years!" to the right's "Within two years we'll....". She wasn't running for anything at the time, she's been working on getting the natural gas pipeline to the lower 48 underway and is very up on the details of what it takes to get a pipeline going... so I have no reason not to believe the five year statement is probably accurate.

I see that the Gretta show about her is coming back on again. I missed it the first time around tonight. It's late... but I guess I'll go brew some coffee and watch! Sounds like it is predominantly footage from the past, not from the campagin trail, so I think it will be a great glimpse of the real, untainted, unadulterated Sarah Palin. I really appreciate when we have the chance to see their history from before any sort of real agenda was part of their consciousness.
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You know that she has one heck of a scandal hanging over her head; don't you? It's not something that I have ever associated with virtue.
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You know that she has one heck of a scandal hanging over her head; don't you? It's not something that I have ever associated with virtue.

Of course there is a scandal over her. That doesn't mean she is guilty.
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Yeah, I thought it was interesting too. 300 advisors! Damn! I think that's a good thing.

I just thought that the original post about Palin needing foreign policy tutoring was silly. . .somehow implying that Obama wasn't getting any.

To be fair, IMO, there is a difference between being tutored on foreign policy which in fact is true and having daily briefings on foreign policy issues. Neither is a bad thing.


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The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White
House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah
Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing
her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden.

Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council
official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as
chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials
told NEWSWEEK. After taking leave from his job as vice president for
international affairs at Ford Motor Co. last Friday, Biegun flew to St.
Paul and, together with McCain's foreign-policy guru Randy Schuenemann,
began briefings for Palin on national-security issues-an area where her
resume is conspicuously thin. ...
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To be fair, IMO, there is a difference between being tutored on foreign policy which in fact is true and having daily briefings on foreign policy issues. Neither is a bad thing.

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By Michael Isikoff
The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White
House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah
Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing
her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden.

Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council
official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as
chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials
told NEWSWEEK. After taking leave from his job as vice president for
international affairs at Ford Motor Co. last Friday, Biegun flew to St.
Paul and, together with McCain's foreign-policy guru Randy Schuenemann,
began briefings for Palin on national-security issues-an area where her
resume is conspicuously thin. ...



Sarah Palin to be Tutored by Bush's aides - iReport.com

Every day around 8 a.m., foreign policy aides at Senator Barack Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters send him two e-mails: a briefing on major world developments over the previous 24 hours and a set of questions, accompanied by suggested answers, that the candidate is likely to be asked about international relations during the day

The "set of questions with suggested answers" part constitutes tutoring to me. Much like if you are tutoring someone for the SATs. So I don't think there is a difference here. Palin is recieving briefings from Biegan and Schuenemann as well. I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm sure Clinton and Bush went through the same, as they were both governors when they were running for office.
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Why do I get the feeling that the mere whisper of the words 'scandal' and 'Palin' in the same sentence make you salivate and giggle wildly?
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Why do I get the feeling that the mere whisper of the words 'scandal' and 'Palin' in the same sentence make you salivate and giggle wildly?

"Scandal, scandal, scandal". Oh, look, the libs have drool all over their computers!!
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Every day around 8 a.m., foreign policy aides at Senator Barack Obama's Chicago campaign headquarters send him two e-mails: a briefing on major world developments over the previous 24 hours and a set of questions, accompanied by suggested answers, that the candidate is likely to be asked about international relations during the day

The "set of questions with suggested answers" part constitutes tutoring to me. Much like if you are tutoring someone for the SATs. So I don't think there is a difference here. Palin is recieving briefings from Biegan and Schuenemann as well. I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm sure Clinton and Bush went through the same, as they were both governors when they were running for office.
Please let's not forget that Obama wants to be President and Sarah is just the VP pick. If you bash Sarah on this subject you have to bash Obama. Everyone seems to act like it's a done deal that McCain will die in office. I don't think Obama has the experience to be Presdient whereas McCain does. I think Palin is at least or more experienced than Obama yet Obama is seeking the presidency. Why can't people see this?
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"Scandal, scandal, scandal". Oh, look, the libs have drool all over their computers!!
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The other picture I get is of a lady in curlers and a smock and sensible shoes looking over the fence to see if her neighbor might be out so they can gossip about the neighbor across the street.
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I know.

The other picture I get is of a lady in curlers and a smock and sensible shoes looking over the fence to see if her neighbor might be out so they can gossip about the neighbor across the street.
Too funny!!
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I think Palin is at least or more experienced than Obama yet Obama is seeking the presidency. Why can't people see this?
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She's going to speak to Charlie Gibson, ABC, next week in Alaska.
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If anyone is scared, it's incredibly obvious it's the democrats! I am LOVING every second of it, go Sarah go!
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:04 PM
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Obvious to you, with your right leaning eyes. The other side of the coin sees it totally differently....Sarah is a huge asset to dems as her inexperience, way less than progressive stances and policies, questionable actions (under current investigation) in office, etc have created an even weaker ticket. Not a democrat here, but an Obama ticket supporter and totally NOT AT ALL SCARED!!!!! Won't be gloating too much after election day....just enough....
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You won't have anything to gloat about, LOL! Sarah has energized the republican party, I can feel the sparks flying & in a good way.
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Obvious to you, with your right leaning eyes. The other side of the coin sees it totally differently....Sarah is a huge asset to dems as her inexperience, way less than progressive stances and policies, questionable actions (under current investigation) in office, etc have created an even weaker ticket. Not a democrat here, but an Obama ticket supporter and totally NOT AT ALL SCARED!!!!! Won't be gloating too much after election day....just enough....

You do know that a lot of Reps feel the same way about Obama getting the nod over Clinton? Personally I think the Dems messed up with that one. Clinton is a much stronger opponent than Obama in just about every arena. We will see. Can't wait for the debates though.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:15 AM
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You won't have anything to gloat about, LOL! Sarah has energized the republican party, I can feel the sparks flying & in a good way.
Well, she energized members of the base, it seems.

Too bad that it takes a VP nominee to make someone enthusiastic about the ticket, and that the Republican Party isn't similarily energized about John McCain, who is your candidate for president.

What is interesting to me is that the whole "Palin is God" thing just embraces the very things that the Republicans criticized the Obama campaign. In fact, the very conservative Powerlineblog.com said as much:

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We conservatives have had a good time ridiculing the Obama phenomenon, especially its messianic feel -- the willingness of its adherents to pour so much hope and belief into such an empty, or at least incomplete, vessel -- and its elevation of "narrative" over substance.

It turns out that we were dying to have basically the same experience
Power Line: "Is she the one we've been waiting for?"

Now, I don't think that the Obama campaign is "empty" or "incomplete." But I do find it interesting how the Republicans are so willing to embrace a VP candidate and make her the symbol of their campaign, instead of their actual candidate, John McCain, based on her vital statistics and a good convention speech.

I guess it because McCain is so uninspiring that Republicans are looking to a VP choice as their inspiration. That's kinda sad, don't you think?

I would term the embrace of the Republicans of Palin as "messianic." I would also term it as "idiotic." She knows little or nothing about foreign affairs or even national issues from what I can tell. She didn't manage her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, a whopping 6000 populated town, very well, and she doesn't seem to have accomplished much in her short term of governor of Alaska, one of the least populated states in the country.

But hey, she's "hot." She gives a good speech. Don't know if she knows where the problems in this country lie, since she only got a passport in 2007 and we haven't heard a word from her on foreign policy, or actually, on domestic policy.

But, who cares. That line about how the only difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull was lipstick. It was GOLD!!!

That was a killer. Let's vote for her!!!! (What, what, what? We aren't voting for the PTA? We are voting for President? McCain is the head of the party? Well, I don't care. I thought that Palin was funny. I'm all for her.)

I'd like to think that the American voting public is smarter. I really think that they are.

But I don't know. There is GWB.

As Dr. Phil says, "how did that work for you?"
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:27 AM
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Well, she energized members of the base, it seems.

Too bad that it takes a VP nominee to make someone enthusiastic about the ticket, and that the Republican Party isn't similarily energized about John McCain, who is your candidate for president.

What is interesting to me is that the whole "Palin is God" thing just embraces the very things that the Republicans criticized the Obama campaign. In fact, the very conservative Powerlineblog.com said as much:



Power Line: "Is she the one we've been waiting for?"

Now, I don't think that the Obama campaign is "empty" or "incomplete." But I do find it interesting how the Republicans are so willing to embrace a VP candidate and make her the symbol of their campaign, instead of their actual candidate, John McCain, based on her vital statistics and a good convention speech.

I guess it because McCain is so uninspiring that Republicans are looking to a VP choice as their inspiration. That's kinda sad, don't you think?

I would term the embrace of the Republicans of Palin as "messianic." I would also term it as "idiotic." She knows little or nothing about foreign affairs or even national issues from what I can tell. She didn't manage her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, a whopping 6000 populated town, very well, and she doesn't seem to have accomplished much in her short term of governor of Alaska, one of the least populated states in the country.

But hey, she's "hot." She gives a good speech. Don't know if she knows where the problems in this country lie, since she only got a passport in 2007 and we haven't heard a word from her on foreign policy, or actually, on domestic policy.

But, who cares. That line about how the only difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull was lipstick. It was GOLD!!!

That was a killer. Let's vote for her!!!! (What, what, what? We aren't voting for the PTA? We are voting for President? McCain is the head of the party? Well, I don't care. I thought that Palin was funny. I'm all for her.)

I'd like to think that the American voting public is smarter. I really think that they are.

But I don't know. There is GWB.

As Dr. Phil says, "how did that work for you?"

I think that's mostly due to the fact that he has crossed party lines so many times. That happens to be one of the things I actually like about him.

I will agree that all this attention about her is kind of odd. But McCain doesn't appeal to that evengelical base because he has crossed them quite a few times in the past. She, however, appears to be more inline with their beliefs. So good for them. Isn't that what we are suppose to be doing? Voting for someone we think represents us. I think it was probably a good move on McCain's camp.
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Palin is God thing? AHAHA, nice deflection...since we all know who has been treated like the messiah by the media.

No, Palin is someone who I can relate to , I can connect with her, I share 85% of her beliefs....a much higher %age than any current candidate out there.


McCain has shown to be not nearly conservative enough for me in his voting record, for the longest time I felt like we had 3 democrats running with clinton, barry & him.

BUT he's danged well more conservative than Barry is! In the end he was getting my vote either way ..only he wasn't getting my money, adding Sarah to the ticket got them a donation from our household AND got me energized to get back in the saddle with campaigning.


As for this..

But hey, she's "hot." She gives a good speech. Don't know if she knows where the problems in this country lie, since she only got a passport in 2007 and we haven't heard a word from her on foreign policy, or actually, on domestic policy.



Barry hasn't given you much more information in his long amt of time in the running...oh wait..but it's hope & change. What's his foriegn policy experience? OH yeah, he lived somewhere when he was 8, so that qualified him...

HOPE

CHANGE

His change scares the bejeebers out of me! healthcare, at what cost..the government can't even run their own senate cafetteria, they had to turn it over to an outside business. Look at the Walter E Reed Hospital & the horrible treatment our veterans get..is THAT what we want for everyone? Typical dummying down, sucks for some, sucks for all. I agree we need help for that gap in the middle, but don't suck me down that dark hole with you! As Reagan once said.."Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem."

And anyone who is running for president of the United States that is too good to wear our flag on his lapel...

Then...and his voting record..Present...how about a yes or no?! Or is that too much decision to make?

Bottom line, Barry is a wonderful speaker, BUT is the most extreme liberal that has come along yet (well, that is, when he decides to actually make that yes or no decision), and mark my words, when he loses, the media will scream racism. It has nothing to do with race (BTW, why does he shun the "white" half of him? could HE be playing the race card?), it has everything to do with his policies!





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Well, she energized members of the base, it seems.

Too bad that it takes a VP nominee to make someone enthusiastic about the ticket, and that the Republican Party isn't similarily energized about John McCain, who is your candidate for president.

What is interesting to me is that the whole "Palin is God" thing just embraces the very things that the Republicans criticized the Obama campaign. In fact, the very conservative Powerlineblog.com said as much:



Power Line: "Is she the one we've been waiting for?"

Now, I don't think that the Obama campaign is "empty" or "incomplete." But I do find it interesting how the Republicans are so willing to embrace a VP candidate and make her the symbol of their campaign, instead of their actual candidate, John McCain, based on her vital statistics and a good convention speech.

I guess it because McCain is so uninspiring that Republicans are looking to a VP choice as their inspiration. That's kinda sad, don't you think?

I would term the embrace of the Republicans of Palin as "messianic." I would also term it as "idiotic." She knows little or nothing about foreign affairs or even national issues from what I can tell. She didn't manage her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, a whopping 6000 populated town, very well, and she doesn't seem to have accomplished much in her short term of governor of Alaska, one of the least populated states in the country.

But hey, she's "hot." She gives a good speech. Don't know if she knows where the problems in this country lie, since she only got a passport in 2007 and we haven't heard a word from her on foreign policy, or actually, on domestic policy.

But, who cares. That line about how the only difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull was lipstick. It was GOLD!!!

That was a killer. Let's vote for her!!!! (What, what, what? We aren't voting for the PTA? We are voting for President? McCain is the head of the party? Well, I don't care. I thought that Palin was funny. I'm all for her.)

I'd like to think that the American voting public is smarter. I really think that they are.

But I don't know. There is GWB.

As Dr. Phil says, "how did that work for you?"
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So, in other words, you are hopeful that something really BAD happens to McCain so your actual candidate has to take over leadership? Kind of morbid isn't it? Horrible to have to hope for "your" leader to die or become incapacitated to get the the leader you are "really" supporting.
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Palin is God thing? AHAHA, nice deflection...since we all know who has been treated like the messiah by the media.

No, Palin is someone who I can relate to , I can connect with her, I share 85% of her beliefs....a much higher %age than any current candidate out there.


McCain has shown to be not nearly conservative enough for me in his voting record, for the longest time I felt like we had 3 democrats running with clinton, barry & him.

BUT he's danged well more conservative than Barry is! In the end he was getting my vote either way ..only he wasn't getting my money, adding Sarah to the ticket got them a donation from our household AND got me energized to get back in the saddle with campaigning.

This is exactly what I was referring to in my post above! I am pretty much a centrist, that's what I like about McCain. However, there are many Republicans that have much more conservative views. It was a smart move to pick Palin to pull in those conservative votes. Of course the liberal Democrats don't like her. I'm pretty sure the McCain camp already knows they won't be pulling in any liberal Democrat votes and that's not who they were trying to go after with this pick.
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You have a twisted mind to have warped my post into that.

Read my post again..without your vitriolic glasses on..



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So, in other words, you are hopeful that something really BAD happens to McCain so your actual candidate has to take over leadership? Kind of morbid isn't it? Horrible to have to hope for "your" leader to die or become incapacitated to get the the leader you are "really" supporting.
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So, in other words, you are hopeful that something really BAD happens to McCain so your actual candidate has to take over leadership? Kind of morbid isn't it? Horrible to have to hope for "your" leader to die or become incapacitated to get the the leader you are "really" supporting.
Show me where she said that?
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:45 AM
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You have a twisted mind to have warped my post into that.

Read my post again..without your vetrolic glasses on..
You beat me to it.

Laughable isn't it? But not suprising. . .
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Simply amazing..this board has the most hateful libs I've seen in quite some time! I thought the libs were the tolerant ones? Unless someone shares a different view...
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Simply amazing..this board has the most hateful libs I've seen in quite some time! I thought the libs were the tolerant ones? Unless someone share a different view...
There have actually been some good posts by liberals on here, where they state their views, support it with credible facts, and explain why they feel the way they do. I have no problem with that! We don't all share the same views. But there has been a lot of partisan drivel too. I have no tolerance for that. . .obviously! LOL!
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