Palin Rumors | Explorations

Interesting site. Yes, it is a blog. No, it doesn't appear to be biased.

Charlie Martin is a Colorado computer scientist and nearly-successful screenwriter who contributes to the Flares Into Darkness political blog as ‘Seneca the Younger,’ and blogs under his own name at the aggressively non-political Explorations blog.

Yes, he also debunks Obama rumors:

You know, it strikes me that a list of Obama rumors with the same sort of commentary would be useful too. Plus, maybe I can drive some right-wingers as batty as I’m making the lefties.

Yes, he has links to his sources. The ones I clicked appear to be reputible sites. . .New York Times, Anchorage Daily News, etc.

There are 71 debunked rumors on the site, but I found these ones interesting as some have been mentioned here:

6. Yes, she did push for and approve the Wasilla Sports Center. Yes, it did cost a lot of money. (People keep saying $20 million, that article says $14.5 million, but then they also added a $1.2 million dollar food service/kitchen piece. This year, after Palin was out of office as Mayor.) Yes, the city went into debt to do it (how did you buy your house, bunkie?) and raised the city sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay for it. Yes, the city is paying it off early. Yes, there is an ongoing dispute about title (following a struggle with the Nature Conservancy and another buyer. And yes, at the time it was built, Wasilla had a Federal judge’s decision that they had title to the land.

20. Yes, it seems unlikely that she’s going to be in hiding for the next two weeks seeing as she’s been in rallies twice in the last two days. Or at least it’s going to be real rough, given that she has three media interviews scheduled today (6 September) alone.

31. Yes, she did fire the public safety guy — but he said in the Anchorage paper that, for the record, she never, and no one else in her administration ever, tried to make him fire her ex-brother-in-law.

36. Yes, she did try to cut her own salary as Mayor by $4000 a year; yes, she had voted against the $4000 a year raise while on the City Council.

37. No, she didn’t cut funding for unwed mothers; yes, she did increase it by “only” 354 percent instead of 454 percent, as part of a multi-year capital expenditures program. No, the Washington Post doesn’t appear to have corrected their story. Even after this was pointed out in the comments on the story.

38. No, she didn’t cut special needs student funding; yes, she did raise it by “only” 175 percent.

45. Yes, she was an Assembly of God Holy Roller. No, she doesn’t attend an AoG church now. Yes, she did leave the AoG because they were getting too weird for her.

50. No, she doesn’t believe in “abstinence only” education. Yes, she thinks abstinence is an effective way of preventing pregnancy. Duh. Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.

60. Yes, she was vetted extensively, not just in three days — I’ve got links to press reports about people coming to Wassila on 29 May, and we had her on our Veepstakes at PJM from the first day we ran it.

62. No, they didn’t talk to a lot of the R’s power structure during the vetting; that probably has to do with the fact that she beat them in elections and sent a bunch of them to jail.

Let's put the emphasis where it belongs: yes, she did finally turn down the money for the bridge. The money itself, however, she was happy to take.

This site seems pretty biased to me, since it puts a good spin on every rumor out there and doesn't report the whole story. The fact that the list compiler is going on Fox speaks volumes.

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Can you expand on the biased to you part? Did you check the links? He doesn't report the whole story. He debunks the rumors as they are e-mailed into him. So he is actually just answering peoples questions as to whether what they heard is true or not. He has an Obama rumor debunking list as well. I don't think him going on Fox means anything, other than they are interested in him because he has such a long Palin list (after all there are alot of rumors about her.) Lots of people go on Fox. . .Clinton, Obama. . .doesn't mean they are consevatively biased.

As far as the bridge project, she didn't actually take it. Should have Alaska gotten that earmark? Probably not, but it was given during Gov. Murkowski's administration. And it went to other transportation projects for the state of Alaska.

Congress eventually removed the earmark language but the money still went to Alaska, leaving it up to the administration of then-Gov. Frank Murkowski to decide whether to go ahead with the bridges or spend the money on something else. . .

Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said Saturday that as projected costs for the Ketchikan bridge rose to nearly $400 million, administration officials were telling Ketchikan that the project looked less likely. Local leaders shouldn’t have been surprised when Palin announced she was turning to less-costly alternatives, Leighow said. Indeed, Leighow produced a report quoting Palin, late in the governor’s race, indicating she would also consider alternatives to a bridge. . . .

Once Palin spiked the bridge project, the money wasn’t available to Minnesota or other states, however. Congress, chastened by criticism of the Alaska funding, had removed the earmark but allowed the state to keep the money and direct it to other transportation projects.

Enhanced ferry access to Gravina Island is one option under consideration, the state said.

Meanwhile, work is under way on a three-mile road on the Gravina Island road, originally meant to connect the airport and the new bridge. State officials said last year they were going ahead with the $25 million road because the money would otherwise have to be returned to the federal government.

Leighow said the road project was already underway last year when Palin stopped the bridge, and she noted that it would provide benefits of opening up new territory for development - one of the original arguments made for the bridge spending.

Palin for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ before she was against it - BostonHerald.com

I have to agree that it is very biased.

How? Go to his front page. He has started an Obama rumor debunking and he has a youtube video making fun of Palin. How is he biased?

Here I'll save you the trouble:

Obama Rumors
You know, it strikes me that a list of Obama rumors with the same sort of commentary would be useful too. Plus, maybe I can drive some right-wingers as batty as I’m making the lefties. This time, since I’ve learned something, I’ll start it the list unnumbered, and convert to numbered when it starts to get intractable; once I convert to numbered, I won’t re-order it any longer, so the numbers will be reliable.

No, Obama is not a Muslim. Yes, it appears his father was. And his stepfather.

No, Obama wasn’t educated in a madrassa, even in Indonesia.

Yes, he was a member of a Christian church for twenty-odd years, and considers himself to be a Christian who became one after a conversion experience. Yes, that’s what Baptists call “born again” but I don’t know that Obama has ever used that terminology. Yes, the church is controversial. Yes, Obama did renounce some of the more controversial things his pastor said. Eventually.
As with the Palin rumors, leave me new rumors — true or false — in the comments. Please give me links; if I don’t have to track down citations it’ll be quicker putting the rumors up and in the list.

And here's the you tube video he has on his front page:

Sarah Palin Bio Video
“She never shot anything that didn’t need killing.”
YouTube - Sarah Palin Biographical video not at RNC- Jimmy Kimmel Live

Killed her first bunny when she was 8!

So? I would not be surprised if that is true. She is a hunter.
Most families here are hunters and take their kids younger than 8 hunting.

Funny isn't it that YOU pooh poohed earier posts because they were linked to blogs....but then you trot this out? DOUBLE STANDARD...surprising NOT

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NO! I pooh poohed posts linked to self proclaimed, biased blogs as if they were from credible, unbiased news sources with some level of journalistic integrity!

BIG difference!

I am very transparent as to the source of the information.

You know what? I said he appears to be unbiased. I have no way of knowing for sure. He certainly isn't a self proclaimed, right-wing conservative. But there is only one real way to find out and I'd really love to know. Sooooo. . .let's test him! Feel free to ask him to debunk an Obama rumor and let's see what he says. Then we'll all know.

Hmmm..... Obama is going on Fox News.... so what's your point?

GOOD ONE!!!! rofl

So, in other words...only YOUR opinion counts on what blogs are believable and reputable. I see....very scientific, fair and balanced as usual. Blinders on when you want them, spotlight when you want them.....DOUBLE STANDARD whether you will be honest and admit it or not....but, surprising....again, NOT

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Have the courage to be yourself.

Not at all!!! I openly said where and what this came from. . .posted links. You are free to go check it out yourself. PLEASE. . .ask him to debunk an Obama rumor and see for yourself what his answer is.

Oh wait. . .I think maybe you don't really want to know. . .funner just to say it's biased with no evidence to back it up.

In the first place, I NEVER said anything about evidence....I am just pointing out your rabidly obvious double standard....whether you want to be honest about it or not......SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE.......

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

I don't think that hambirg had a formed opinion about whether the source was biased or unbiased, other than it "appears" to unbiased which is less an opinion than an observation.

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Melissa

So if I start saying "Palin appears to be a lying nutjob," that's ok, since it's just an observation?

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Hmmmmm. . .you said:

I did not pooh pooh posts because they were linked to blogs.

I pooh poohed posts that were linked to SELF PROCLAIMED, BIASED blogs.

Is there an echo in here. . . in here. . .in here. . .???

How is that even remotely the same thing silly.

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Melissa

Sure. . .if you could provide some supporting evidence and there's a lack of proof otherwise.


We can solve this pretty simply.

You don't believe it's an unbiased source even though there is no evidence proving otherwise. . .none!

Why don't you go to the sight and see for yourself? Ask him to debunk an Obama rumor.

Save your breath. It's no use. . .really.

Why -- you didn't?

Why would I ask him to debunk an Obama rumor when he's already shown he can' handle the most well-known of Palin's lies? A lie she repeated again today!

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You would ask him to debunk an Obama rumor to give some credence to the supposition that maybe, just maybe he is rather unbiased silly.

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Melissa

Let's see. . .

I provided a link to his site, that if you explore you will find out that he is not a self proclaimed liberal or conservative.

His site is described as aggressively non-political .

In an apparent attempt to be fair, he has started debunking Obama rumors as well. And in regards to that, in his own words he says:

Plus, maybe I can drive some right-wingers as batty as I’m making the lefties.

He provides links, to REPUTABLE, NON-BIASED sources that substantiate his findings.

He has a youtube video on his front page that mocks Palin

Gee! How much more evidence do you want?!

And if you referring the the bridge stuff check this out from FactCheck:

FactCheck.org: The Party's Over

About half way through it says:

Yes she changed her mind on the bridge. No, she wasn't required to spend it on the bridge to keep the money. Yes, she spent it on other transportation projects.

Let me guess. . .Factcheck is biased too??

Love your new sig line.

Silly.

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You accused me of saying there was NO EVIDENCE or that they were BIASED--I never used those words ..... show me my post where I said it or admit you lied. Trying to put words in my mouth won't work. Have the convictions to stand up for what you say without posting lies.

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

Geeee. . .right here:

You said :
only YOUR opinion counts on what blogs are believable and reputable.

That equals the NO EVIDENCE part.

In law there is something called reasonable prudence. That means evidence given that would lead a reasonable and prudent person to draw the same conclusion. I think I covered that base.

Then sarcastically you said:
very scientific, fair and balanced as usual

We all know that sarcasm is when you actually say the opposite of what you meant. So what you really said is that I was unscientific, unfair and BIASED.

Where did I lie? Anybody??

So, you are creating your own dictionary now.....just admit you LIED when you said that I SAID those things. Those are YOUR INTERPRETATIONS not MY WORDS.

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

Oh, in that case, thank you for pointing out how very scientific, fair and balanced I am. And I appreciate that you trust my opinion on what blogs are believable and reputable (even though I never asked you too. I asked you to go make that judgement for yourself.)

I have a question you can ask..was Barry's "Community Organizer" stint with ACORN?

I like Momrajun's tag line, what do you think of it?

Strong and bitter words indicate a weak argument.

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Good one! I will! and I'll let you know what he says.

Just BLATANTLY OBVIOUS you lied...show me the posts where I state those things----not how YOU interpreted them.... where you state I actually POSTED them.......


Can't, and it won't happen....so you keep trying to bury the issue........

How honorable of you....NOT!

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

Can you tell me exactly what it is she lied about? I'm having a hard time following you.

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Melissa

That is because you have not read all the posts then. She said that I stated that I said her links were, in her words, "biased" and had"no evidence". Never ONCE did I use EITHER of those words about her post. But, she clouds that by saying that this is how SHE interpreted what I said. Keeps saying that in different ways over and over.....I am asking her to how me WHERE I said either of those things. She can't, and she won't, but won't admit that I NEVER said either of those things. I am tired of her putting words into my mouth. I have absolutely no problem speaking for myself. Some people CAN be bullied into backing down or giving up when they get frustrated with a continuing lie, but that is not me.

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"Well-Behaved Women SELDOM make history."Laurel Thatcher Ulrich


"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

What she actually said is this.....


by hambirg
Then sarcastically you said:
very scientific, fair and balanced as usual

We all know that sarcasm is when you actually say the opposite of what you meant. So what you really said is that I was unscientific, unfair and BIASED.

you are swinging at air.

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Melissa

SHOW ME WHERE I SAID OR POSTED IT....IT DOES NOT EXIST. I can swing at air and hit a homerun with this because it does NOT exist.

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

You didn't.....she didn't say you did. This is what she said.

by hambirg
Then sarcastically you said:
very scientific, fair and balanced as usual

We all know that sarcasm is when you actually say the opposite of what you meant. So what you really said is that I was unscientific, unfair and BIASED.

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Melissa

Hmmm. . .back to reasonable prudence.

I said that this is what you posted:

very scientific, fair and balanced as usual

Any reasonable prudent, person would see that that was posted in sarcasm. It isn't just open to MY interpretation. . . anybody can see that as blaringly obvious.

If it's sarcasm then is is the SAME as saying I'm unscientific, unfair and biased.

If it WASN'T posted in sarcasm then it IS saying I'm scientific, fair and balanced.
And I thanked you for saying that.

So which is it?

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It's really futile at this point. You can't logically argue something with somebody when no logic is involved.

jeanief, do you have anything of value to add to the original topic of this post?

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I asked. We'll see what he says.

We already know the answer though:

http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/OT0406.pdf

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I have lots of value to add and lots of value in my life....but what is the point of sharing it with people who do not appreciate it? But, don't think you have scared me or bullied me away....your kind never will. Go ahead and be your nasty sarcastic self and see where it gets you in the end. I don't have to bait anyone. I am smarter than that.

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

"Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity

Have the courage to be yourself.

I'm still curious. . .were you being sarcastic or not?

Btw. . .I asked if you had anything valuable to add to the topic of this thread. I wasn't making any judgements about the value of your life.

And I think you were the one being nice and sincere. . . .NOT

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

Oh yeah, and as far as who's bullying who, will just let the other members of this board decide that for themselves.

You just don't know when to quit.
Me, I'm going to quit while I'm ahead.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm