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Old 09-08-2008, 01:35 PM
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MSNBC....unbiased news??

I thought I would use this link from USAToday instead of the one from FOX, I mean we all know FOX is so biased. lol

MSNBC: Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor political coverage - USATODAY.com
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:07 PM
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Fox is biased. There is no doubt in my mind that Keith Olbermann is a flaming liberal. I think Chris Matthews may trend that way. Matthews, however dutifully repeated White House propaganda for 4 years. They do have Joe Scarborough on in the mornings. The rest of the day is just news.

You're going to find bias in the opinion pages of the newspaper. You'll also find it in shows like Countdown, Hannity and Colmes and O'Reilly. These are not places to look for unbiased facts.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:11 PM
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From what I have heard during the election, FOX is far more unbiased than MSNBC. Besides that, if FOX is so biased they are the only ones biased towards the right, the rest are left leaning.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:39 PM
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The change was first reported by The New York Times.

Here's a link to the original article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/bu...gewanted=print

MSNBC Takes Incendiary Hosts From Anchor Seat
By BRIAN STELTER
MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.

That experiment appears to be over.

After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.

The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.

“The most disappointing shift is to see the partisan attitude move from prime time into what’s supposed to be straight news programming,” said Davidson Goldin, formerly the editorial director of MSNBC and a co-founder of the reputation management firm DolceGoldin.

Executives at the channel’s parent company, NBC Universal, had high hopes for MSNBC’s coverage of the political conventions. Instead, the coverage frequently descended into on-air squabbles between the anchors, embarrassing some workers at NBC’s news division, and quite possibly alienating viewers. Although MSNBC nearly doubled its total audience compared with the 2004 conventions, its competitive position did not improve, as it remained in last place among the broadcast and cable news networks. In prime time, the channel averaged 2.2 million viewers during the Democratic convention and 1.7 million viewers during the Republican convention. . .


Good move on MSNBC's part considering they are sitting in last place.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:53 PM
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Bravo MSNBC. I cant stand Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews and I am a liberal. Now FOX needs to do something about O'Reilly and Hannity. And CNN needs to get rid of Jack Cafferty. My favorite news talk show host(that's what they all are since they don't really report the news, just their opinions) is Lou Dobbs. I don't always agree with him on Politics (though he does give 'em all he** if he thinks they are full of it) but I love the other stories he does.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:15 PM
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From what I have heard during the election, FOX is far more unbiased than MSNBC. Besides that, if FOX is so biased they are the only ones biased towards the right, the rest are left leaning.
"If" Fox is biased . . .

I completely agree KO is biased left. Matthews is left of center, but not as far as like KO. Scarborough is the waterboy for the right and David Gregory skews to the right, as well. Rachael (can't wait for her show tonight!) is completely left.

But that's the difference between the opinion shows and the news shows -- like the difference between Fox NEWS and O'Reilly or Hannity.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:26 PM
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I very much like cafferty. Lou Dobbs, not too much. One day, I wish he'd tell the whole story behind those two border guards.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:35 PM
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I agree about Lou Dobbs. I think he lost his stuff over the illegal immigrant thing. I agreed with him for a long time on the issue, but he's gone way off the deep end.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:52 PM
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Seems to me that the definition of "biased" depends on which side of center you place yourself.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:53 PM
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I think many on the far right actually believe they're the center.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:14 PM
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If you really want unbiased news you have to go to foreign news websites.

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:59 PM
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If you really want unbiased news you have to go to foreign news websites.

Dan Rather video
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I started going to foreign sources in 2002.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:04 PM
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If you really want unbiased news you have to go to foreign news websites.
I completely agree w/ you on that on Forrest. I get most of my news from BBC, the Guardian and some German news sources.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:12 PM
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I thought I would use this link from USAToday instead of the one from FOX, I mean we all know FOX is so biased. lol

MSNBC: Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor political coverage - USATODAY.com

I think its hilarious....they both showed their true colors and their ignorance!! Glad Msnbc had the good sense to yank them!!!!!! Sherri
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:19 PM
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At least Hannity has a liberal co host and liberal guests and O'Reilly always has someone from the opposite viewpoint. Never could understand how that's looked at as biased.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:16 PM
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At least Hannity has a liberal co host and liberal guests and O'Reilly always has someone from the opposite viewpoint. Never could understand how that's looked at as biased.
Hannity's co host is his puppet. I tried to watch them a few times thinking they would show both sides fairly but they don't. They are a talk show, not a news show. All of those type shows are alike no matter what side their hosts(or co hosts) are on. On all the channels. Do you actually think O'Reilly's monologues (commentary) give both sides. The other guys (MSNBC, CNN) have all viewpoints too but like O'Reilly it is too apparent what they really think.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:04 PM
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At least Hannity has a liberal co host and liberal guests and O'Reilly always has someone from the opposite viewpoint. Never could understand how that's looked at as biased.

O'Reilly has never pretended to be non partisan.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:29 PM
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O'Reilly has never pretended to be non partisan.
How funny.

Welcome to the no spin zone. Fair and balanced. Sound familiar.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:43 PM
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Actually, O'R claims non-partisanship and practices it. He's a registered independent.

He has extremely strong opinions and voices them with a lot of gusto and volume. While he is opinionated about issues that are partison, you can't depend on him to *always* be on the side of the Republicans or the Democrats. He's been very critical of Bush and the war, for instance. And his views on gay relationships aren't what I'd consider 'mainstream right' at all.

I never miss him... and there are times I want to throw tomatoes at my tv.

ETA: He just slammed Republican congressman Wesmoreland(sp?) for the 'uppity' comment, saying it had terrible racial overtones and that he owes the Obama's an apology.

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Old 09-08-2008, 10:36 PM
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Actually, O'R claims non-partisanship and practices it. He's a registered independent.

He has extremely strong opinions and voices them with a lot of gusto and volume. While he is opinionated about issues that are partison, you can't depend on him to *always* be on the side of the Republicans or the Democrats. He's been very critical of Bush and the war, for instance. And his views on gay relationships aren't what I'd consider 'mainstream right' at all.

I never miss him... and there are times I want to throw tomatoes at my tv.

ETA: He just slammed Republican congressman Wesmoreland(sp?) for the 'uppity' comment, saying it had terrible racial overtones and that he owes the Obama's an apology.
I have to agree with ya! He has been critical of Bush and some Republicans. I really feel he calls 'em as he sees 'em.
 

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