"Palin's chief qualification is she hasn't had an abortion."

Wow. Of course, that's not exactly what she meant. So sad. Here's the story...

Washington Times - SC Dem chief says sorry for Palin-abortion comment

Here's her excuse....



Fowler has issued a statement, saying, "I personally admire and respect the difficult choices that women make everyday, and I apologize to anyone who finds my comment offensive. I clumsily was making a point about people in South Carolina who may vote based on a single issue. Whether it’s the environment, the economy, the war or a woman’s right to choose, there are people who will cast their vote based on a single issue. That was the only point I was attempting to make."

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And that is completely their perogative. Similarly, just like people who choose to vote for Obama, based solely on the war in Iraq.

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Gosh, what's wrong with the democratic party? It's almost like they don't want Obama to win. First is Biden saying Hillary would be a better VP running mate and now Fowler saying this? Oh, and I heard, too, that Fowler's husband said that God planned the hurricane to hurt the Republican Convention.

Are there two democratic parties?

WOW, I hadn't heard the Biden remark. I did hear about this woman and her comment today, at the Post Office. I guess I just don't "catch" a lot of things. It was an odd remark, but, I didn't see the awful implication of it. My immediate thought was , "well, Joe Biden hasn't had an abortion either".

Stupid things are being said on both sides, surely. Tensions are high, and I think people are really shooting from the hip.

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LMAO! I almost spit my diet coke all over my keyboard!

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

LMAO!

That woman is a real class act - not. What a sickening remark. I think the dems may want to take a few days of "quiet time."

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"To any critics who say a woman can't think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I'd just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave." - Sarah Palin

And don't you know that if the Democrats had selected someone who *had* had an abortion that there are people who would be drawn to her for that reason alone?

Sad but true....

Your statement is ridiculous. While I certainly wouldn't condemn a woman for having an abortion, I certainly wouldn't condemn a woman for giving birth. I should think that's her own business and doesn't need to be shared with the country.

Well, first of all the woman would have to ANNOUNCE that she had chosen to have an abortion. Most women don't go around declaring that.
I have stated that I had one because I think it's important for all women to understand and know that yes, it can and does happen to anyone. Furthermore, a lot of the women who regret it or have mental health issues regarding the choice to have an abortion--is not their own guilt, but statements and implied statements made by loving, caring, Christians. It's not that women who have had an abortion are necessarily ashamed about having an abortion--it's often a case of they really don't want to deal with hypocritical Christians and certain do-gooders who feel it is their right to call these women murderers or compare these women to murderers or terrorist.

So, a woman would have to announce that she had an abortion for it to become a sticking point in any election. Most women would not announce that because it is a highly personal choice--that THANK GOD! Us women still have the choice on what to do with our bodies. Announcing that you had an abortion would be akin to announcing that your husband liked to be spanked during sex! No one's business!

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I don't think that's quite what she meant. Fowler was saying that some Palin supporters will vote for her ticket solely based on the abortion issue. I think wowitsdark was just pointing out that the same could be said about some of the people voting for Obama. They will vote solely on the abortion issue.

I try to avoid this subject because I just find it sad. Personally, I oppose abortion on a moral issue. I understand that not everybody feels that way, and I would never try impose my morals on somebody else. For me, the only political issue regarding abortion, is that if someone wants to have one, fine. Just don't pay for it with my tax money.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Our tax money is paying for them though!!! Same thing with the failed sex ed programs, etc...

Here's my point....

Both sides vet the snot out of their candidates, and I can't imagne whether or not a potential candidate has had an abortion doesn't come up. It's way too much a hotbutton issue for either side to be surprised by that information because somebody from some Dr.'s office decided to leak it on the sly halfway through a campaign.

If a Democratic candidate for Pres. or VP had had an abortion, I have to think they'd be savvy enough to be first on the draw with the information, complete with a touching story about her reasons intended to rally the base and convict the undecided.

And just like the Right feels about Palin's decision for life, there are those on the Left who on that reason alone would champion that candidate as someone who really understands, who has *been there*, who represents them, etc.

What tax programs pay for abortions? Not denying, I'm just curious to know.I never really gave it much thought.

Planned Parenthood?
Medicare?
Medicaid?

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I highly doubt that. I am pro-choice. I would never condemn a women for having an abortion, but it certainly wouldn't be a selling point to me either. Or any other pro-choicers that I personally know.

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Could you please provide objective documentation that supports your claim?

Private insurance may or may not pay for a selective abortion. Medicare, at one time, would not pay for a selective abortion. Last time I checked, most clinics (regardless of what kind of practice they were) accepted food stamps or WIC vouchers as a form of payment. Most housing assistance is in the form of vouchers which have little or no value to a medical provider. Now, if the woman or her family are receiving AFDC, or SSDI then they might be cashing a check and paying for it that way....

And please explain to me what you mean by "failed" sex-ed programs? I'm intrigued.

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I may be wrong on this. I believe our local government gives grants to the United Way which in turn helps Planned Parenthood, etc... it's more of a trickle down effect.
Failed sex-ed programs-since we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the world I would say what we have been doing isn't working very well.......
From National Abortion Federation.
Funding under Hyde Amendment Only: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Wyoming.

Hyde Amendment and Additional Health Circumstances: Indiana (physical health), Iowa (fetal abnormality), Mississippi (fetal abnormality), Utah (physical health and fetal abnormality), Virginia (fetal abnormality), and Wisconsin (physical health).

All or Most Health Circumstances: Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

Noncompliant with the Hyde Amendment: South Dakota (life endangerment only).

Her statement was not ridiculous. She said that there are people who would be drawn to her for that reason alone and there are. Whether you are one of those people is completely immaterial. Your personal views on birth and abortion don't alter the fact that there are many people who will condemn or vote for a candidate because of those choices.

I can see this happening, yes, I can. A woman gets up and tells her tale of the difficult choice she had to make....carry the child of the beast who raped her, carry the child that will die at birth due to anencephaly (sp??) or some other situation, then tell how grateful she was to have the choice to decide for herself..... yes, I can definitely see it.

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