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Old 09-14-2008, 07:22 PM
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Obama raised more than McCain and GOP put together last month

AFP: Obama raises record 66 million dollars in August


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Democratic Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said of Obama's record-breaking take in August, "not a single dollar of those funds were raised or contributed by lobbyists."

"I've been struck by Senator McCain's efforts to embrace the change mantra. I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," she told reporters, while noting McCain's loyalty in his voting record to Bush's policy agenda.
500,000 NEW donors! Awesome. I'm thrilled to have been part of it.


I know, I said I wasn't going to post on this forum, but I thought this news was HUGE since no one in the history of presidential races has ever raised that much. Found it weird no one had mentioned it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:50 PM
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Didn't I read on here yesterday that you weren't going to post on here anymore???? Oops, just reread it and noticed that you mentioned that.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:07 PM
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I am amazed at how people state that the economy is dong so poor and how much they are hurting can afford to send money to politicians. I would think that putting food on the table and gas in the vehicles would be more important. Maybe the economy isn't as bad as the media has portrayed it??? Not saying some haven't lost their job or had to take an early retirement etc, but where is all the extra money coming from?

I do get tired of the whole campaigning process. I mean really, how many times do we have to watch the same ads over and over? Yet, they never tell us how they are going to solve the problems that this country is facing, they just attack each other. I just don't get it!

Maybe if everyone would just quit sending all this money to the politicians, they'd quit campaigning so much and go back to work!! I would think debates would be enough exposure for us to make up our minds.....
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:30 PM
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AFP: Obama raises record 66 million dollars in August




500,000 NEW donors! Awesome. I'm thrilled to have been part of it.


I know, I said I wasn't going to post on this forum, but I thought this news was HUGE since no one in the history of presidential races has ever raised that much. Found it weird no one had mentioned it.
You do understand that both McCain and Obama agreed to take public financing for the general election? McCain is keeping his word and Obama is not. . .going after more private money.


Clean Elections is a practical, proven reform that puts voters in control of elections. Rather than being forced to rely on special interest donors to pay for their campaigns, candidates have the opportunity to qualify for full public funding which ends their reliance on special interest campaign cash. Being freed from the money chase means they have more time to spend with constituents, talking about issues that matter to them. When they enter office, they can consider legislation on the merits, without worrying about whether they are pleasing well heeled donors and lobbyists.

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Candidates who accept public financing receive $85 million but cannot accept additional contributions; Obama raised $35 million just last month, suggesting he could raise much more than McCain in the general election.

Last February, lawyers for Obama asked the Federal Election Commission if the campaign could raise funds for the general election but retain the option of returning to the public finance system. When the FEC gave its permission, an Obama spokesman said the candidate would "aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

Answering a questionnaire in September 2007 by the Midwest Democracy Network, Obama said he would forgo private funding in the general election, adding he had "proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election."

In recent weeks, however, Obama has suggested he has not made up his mind on whether to opt out of the public financing system. In an op-ed in USA Today, Obama wrote today that if he is the Democratic nominee he "will aggressively pursue" a policy with his opponent for a "publicly funded general election in 2008 with real spending limits," but made clear that he thinks a new agreement is needed.


McCain Criticizes Obama on Financing | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:36 PM
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I am amazed at how people state that the economy is dong so poor and how much they are hurting can afford to send money to politicians. I would think that putting food on the table and gas in the vehicles would be more important. Maybe the economy isn't as bad as the media has portrayed it??? Not saying some haven't lost their job or had to take an early retirement etc, but where is all the extra money coming from?

I do get tired of the whole campaigning process. I mean really, how many times do we have to watch the same ads over and over? Yet, they never tell us how they are going to solve the problems that this country is facing, they just attack each other. I just don't get it!

Maybe if everyone would just quit sending all this money to the politicians, they'd quit campaigning so much and go back to work!! I would think debates would be enough exposure for us to make up our minds.....
The public financing reform legislation is suppose to be leveling the playing field so that candidates can spend more time talking about the issues and less time fundraising. Too bad Obama is opting out. I think they should lower the money from Public funding even more and all the candidates should have to take it. IMHO! It would get rid of the pandering to big donors, special interests groups and lobbyists.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:44 PM
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The only time I see any ads is when they're played on the national news as part of a discussion. We're in a very very very red state and so nobody bothers to campaign to us.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:29 PM
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Didn't I read on here yesterday that you weren't going to post on here anymore????
Didn't you once say you were not going to post on TC anymore?

As to the OP, that's fantastic news.
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:33 PM
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You do understand that both McCain and Obama agreed to take public financing for the general election? McCain is keeping his word and Obama is not. . .going after more private money.


Rather than being forced to rely on special interest donors to pay for their campaigns, candidates have the opportunity to qualify for full public funding which ends their reliance on special interest campaign cash.
No I didn't understand that. Thank god I have you to spell that out for me.

"not a single dollar of those funds were raised or contributed by lobbyists."
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:10 AM
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Didn't you once say you were not going to post on TC anymore?

As to the OP, that's fantastic news.
No I did not say that.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:12 AM
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Don't you have a cross to go burn? Or are you just waiting for your white suit to finish drying?
Geez woman, I edited it (right after I hit post!) to say that I reread it but I guess that's not good enough for you. You did say the other day you weren't going to post anymore on the elections board. Nope, don't have any crosses to burn at all. Never have, never will. Too bad you can't play nicely on here.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:35 AM
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No I didn't understand that. Thank god I have you to spell that out for me.

"not a single dollar of those funds were raised or contributed by lobbyists."
Your welcome! Some people apparently need it spelled out for them! Can you please post the source of your information! Because frankly I'm a skeptic. And if you haven't noticed, I dont' give a rats ass about anybody's opinion! I want the facts only please. And if you don't think that any of that has come from lobbyists or special interests than I have a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell you.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:39 AM
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Don't you have a cross to go burn? Or are you just waiting for your white suit to finish drying?
That was an extremely racist and hateful thing to post! If you think for a hot second that I wouldn't call you on that, then you are dumber than you appear! Why don't you go pick on somebody else with your hateful bullsh*t!!!!??? Go throw some shoes over a telephone line or something. Just because we made you look like an idiot for posting the fact that Obama raised more money while McCain is not allowed to fundraise anymore because he kept his promise in agreeing to public funding while Obama waffled on the issue doesn't make you the f*ckin superior. Just makes you look like a dumb*ss!!! Maybe next time you post such stupid, obvious crap, you should do a little research! I wouldn't be so mean if you showed that you understood that you made a mistake when you posted something so blithering obvious and idiotic! But you had to act like you are the blithering expert when it is glaringly apparent to anyone that has a f*cking clue, that you are just regurgitating **** that you have read on some liberal blog! What you just posted to Kathy is equivelant to me telling you to stop by 7-11 and pick me up a 40ouncer and a grape Swisher. Ask me how I know. I dare you!!!!
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:58 AM
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That was an extremely racist and hateful thing to post! If you think for a hot second that I wouldn't call you on that, then you are dumber than you appear! Why don't you go pick on somebody else with your hateful bullsh*t!!!!??? Go throw some shoes over a telephone line or something.
Thank you for calling her out on that. Jaded does have some issues. I wish she would have stuck with her "i'm not going to post on here anymore" post from a few days ago!!!
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:15 AM
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Thank you for calling her out on that. Jaded does have some issues. I wish she would have stuck with her "i'm not going to post on here anymore" post from a few days ago!!!
You needn't worry Kathy! You seem like a sweetheart compared to the others that keep trying to bring you down. You are the sole reason that I started to post here. The first day that I read this thread they were all ganging up on you with there liberal bullsh*t.
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I am amazed at how people state that the economy is dong so poor and how much they are hurting can afford to send money to politicians. I would think that putting food on the table and gas in the vehicles would be more important. Maybe the economy isn't as bad as the media has portrayed it??? Not saying some haven't lost their job or had to take an early retirement etc, but where is all the extra money coming from?

I do get tired of the whole campaigning process. I mean really, how many times do we have to watch the same ads over and over? Yet, they never tell us how they are going to solve the problems that this country is facing, they just attack each other. I just don't get it!

Maybe if everyone would just quit sending all this money to the politicians, they'd quit campaigning so much and go back to work!! I would think debates would be enough exposure for us to make up our minds.....
I think that the reason so many people are giving is what's at stake for the country in this election. The news this weekend is very, very serious. The takeover of Fannie and Freddie by the Fed leaves taxpayers on the hook for somewhere between $25 and $200 billion. Lehman will liquidate. Had Merrill Lynch not been taken over by BA, they would have failed. AIG is next. It's going to be very bad.
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:23 AM
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Your welcome! Some people apparently need it spelled out for them! Can you please post the source of your information! Because frankly I'm a skeptic. And if you haven't noticed, I dont' give a rats ass about anybody's opinion! I want the facts only please. And if you don't think that any of that has come from lobbyists or special interests than I have a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell you.
I'm not sure how old you are. Maybe you can't see the link in my post. Or perhaps your fingers prevent you from typing a search into yahoo, google, ask, etc all by yourself?
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:25 AM
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That was an extremely racist and hateful thing to post! If you think for a hot second that I wouldn't call you on that, then you are dumber than you appear! Why don't you go pick on somebody else with your hateful bullsh*t!!!!??? Go throw some shoes over a telephone line or something. Just because we made you look like an idiot for posting the fact that Obama raised more money while McCain is not allowed to fundraise anymore because he kept his promise in agreeing to public funding while Obama waffled on the issue doesn't make you the f*ckin superior. Just makes you look like a dumb*ss!!! Maybe next time you post such stupid, obvious crap, you should do a little research! I wouldn't be so mean if you showed that you understood that you made a mistake when you posted something so blithering obvious and idiotic! But you had to act like you are the blithering expert when it is glaringly apparent to anyone that has a f*cking clue, that you are just regurgitating **** that you have read on some liberal blog! What you just posted to Kathy is equivelant to me telling you to stop by 7-11 and pick me up a 40ouncer and a grape Swisher. Ask me how I know. I dare you!!!!
oh look. how cute. And you seem to think I CARE what you think about me. ROFLOL. that's hilarious. You aren't making anyone but yourself look like an idiot. Where was your righteous indignation when Kathy was being racist over and over and over again in the many posts of hers that you seem to worship?
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