I noticed that for quite awhile, the 'left' here started most of the posts. The 'right' was certainly right in there for the tussle, but didn't seem to start the conversations.

Since Palin was announced and then took off, I haven't seen so much of that. And I'd noticed that the left was largely absent since that time.

Then in a thread that's now closed that I think began and ended today, someone mentioned that the liberal side isn't represented here very much anymore.

Was that a decision that was made and announced and I missed it? Or did posters on the left just independently decide to shift their attention elsewhere? And if so... why?

Hmm, I wonder at your conclusions. It seems to you that that the left is wilting because the right is posting. The natural corollary is that the right was wilted when the left was posting, which I doubt that you agree was the case.

And your conclusion really must only address the last day or two, because there have been no ends of posts by the left regarding Palin since she was named.

Just to end with your question, if there is a mighty, mighty conspiracy from the left not to post, someone failed to send me the memo.

If you have any more specific of a question regarding the left, I'll post on it, or at least I'll post on my view of it. As much as you all tell me that the right has nuances, so does the left.

I suppose that there are persons who aren't posting because it seems that the positions are so entrenched. So be it. I suspect that this has been true for a while, but it has become clearer in the last few days. It's hard to hold that against anyone on either side. Banging your head against a brick wall and all that.

I'll at least post my shade of gray if anyone is interested.

I'm voting for Obama. I don't respect McCain. I like Biden. Palin is a joke.

There, that wraps it up.

If it was Jadeds thread I had to laugh. She said she wasn't going to post on here, then started a thread and then closed it at 17 posts (I think).
Acutally I think it's because the "right" has intimidated the left with facts and truths that the left can't comprehend or can't find some evidence to refute them. At least that's what I have noticed lately. And the name calling by the left is sooooo immature and irresponsible. Glad to see that at least some of them have gone underground for awhile!

Is there a way to go back a page or two on the board? I know the old posts are still in existence, and on other boards you can usually scroll through several pages worth of posts. Here, I don't have that ability on this page.

I really don't think it's my imagination, because I'd noticed it but hadn't said anything... and then someone from the left (don't recall who) came right out and mentioned it and used a word like 'anymore' or something that indicated that there's been a shift.

I count 40 posts on the front page, and only ten of them were started by the left.

On the 2nd page, it's 20 of 40. On the 3rd page, 20 of 40 as well.

So I guess my memory was somewhat faulty, because it seemed to me that for awhile most threads were started by the left. Regardless, when I click on them, I see lots of back and forthing from both sides.

Today, 75% appear to be right-generated and largely consist of the choir singing to itself.

The reason I do think something about this coincides with the Palin -created surge is because when I see something on the news about her, I often come *here* to see what the scuttlebut on the left is about the issue... and recently, there just isn't much to *read* about the left's position here.

That's not always been true.

ETA: Between the time I began and ended this post, I decided I should try to view the main Electio board page in Mozilla, and in Mozilla I can go back several pages. In IE, all that shows is the first page, and it just shows about 17 posts.

Kathy, I didn't think that they'd been 'subued into submission' because of the lack of facts. I just wondered if they were feeling a little malaise. (sp?) I know I feel that way when it seems the candidate I support is behind and it's hard to get excited about the 'rah rah'.

I think I remember threads where the right has asked the left for links to back up what they say and most of the time they didn't come up with any. But i could be wrong. I think the election is still too close to call so I don't think either side feels their candidate is behind. There's no slam dunk that's for sure!

I think the wall is hard and our heads are sore.

Maureen

Aw, Mo, you know we've had our share of Advil as well!

I take it you didn't watch the Todd Palin interview on Greta?

He's just so.... regular! I'm really enjoying this piece.

What's not to like about him? lol

ETA: And while I'm in my random moment, what did anyone think of the SNL spoof on Sarah Palin/Hillary Clinton? It absolutely cracked me up!

I can only speak for myself, but I'm so sad at the way this election is being run. I really thought this country learned something about smear tactics during the last two elections, but apparently we still buy into it all hook, line and sinker. I really thought that John McCain, having not long ago been the recipient of the kind of low-down, insidious smears we're seeing now would do more to prevent it happening to others. We live in such an amazing country and the right to vote is such an intrinsic part of that....but it seems like so many people base their choice on only one or two key issues and a bunch of nasty rumors.

I've always respected John McCain and would have voted for him in 2000. Now that he's changed so many of his views, or at least claims to have done so in order to secure the nomination, I've lost a lot of that trust in him. Pandering to the religious right is not in the best interest of our country, but I suppose it's what's required from a Republican today. Still, he seemed like such a man of principle and it really saddened me to see him flip-flop the way he did. Either way, McCain or Obama, I definitely think we're getting a much better president than we have now. Palin, though, she scares the crap out of me....this country does not need another divider...we need a uniter, and she's never going to be that. She's a tinpot despot and a beauty-queen bully. I see why McCain chose her...she's young, attractive and cements his newfound commitment to the fundamentalists, but it really makes me question if he's as committed to this country as he is to winning.

Eight years ago, the thought of McCain as president seemed like a wonderful compromise...and I really think this country would be in much better shape if he'd won. But he was smeared by Rove and people voted for the person they'd most like to go fishing with....and look where we are now.

So anyway, my point....and I did have one but it's late and I think it's wandered off rather like this post...is just that the ugliness of the campaign depresses me. I don't care what anyone's middle name is, I don't care who's been messing around despite all her abstinence training, and I honestly couldn't care less about Palin's husband (or Biden's wife). It's all just a huge distraction from anything of any importance. If we were debating anything of any portent, that would be one thing....but rumors and innuendo don't make for satisfying conversation.

Maureen

I don't post that much to begin with. Just off and on as time allows. I have a life that I have to attend to. I also have boards (I don't limit myself to just this board) that I post on where people don't resort to calling names and silly stuff like they do here when they are proved wrong or just cant come up with a good reply.

And Palin is old news so I don't even read those threads unless I am really really bored, so none lately. I never talked much about her personal life anyway (not relevant IMO) and that's what most on here want to talk about. And I don't care that she can see Russia from Alaska. Not really interested in her husband either and don't watch Greta(is she that lady on on fox news that talks like she has a mouth full all the time?). I am sure the media will replay it if the Mr. had anything of interest (or not) to say.

So carry on.

Great post, Maureen! I agree with many of your comments. I am voting for Obama but not because of some deep seated hatred for Sen McCain or Republicans as the Right would have you believe. You don't have to hate one side to vote for another. I like many of John McCains ideas but I like Obama's better. I don't hate Sarah Palin as the Right wants everyone to believe. That is another way to divide everyone. If you are not with us, it is because you hate everything we stand for. I enjoy watching the mutual back patting and hand slapping that those who have supported Gov Palin seem to be doing here. It seems to be a lot of "They hate us, so we must be right" and "Look how scared they must be of her". She doesn't get brownie points because her daughter didn't have an abortion, nor does she get extra points because she had her baby instead of an abortion. That is the law. Any one could make those choices because of choice. I don't admire her because she is allowing her daughter to be a married mother at the ripe old age of 17, I don't know what I would do in that position but I think that what is happening in her family happens in lots of families every day and they are not heroes for it. It is what you do as a parent.

I believe that John McCain is a hero and I think that anyone who tries to better their community (like Obama) are heroes. So, I would like to debate the things that matter. Like debunking falsehoods and outright lies designed to divide people. You get more flies with honey than vineagar. All I see lately is vineagar.

I won't dignify KTS comments with any comment of my own because it seems the pot needs to meet the kettle. Her comments are most hilarious considering her past posts and I hope she is jesting.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

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So true and good point! What a great way to keep things in perspective.




I just don't get it, though. Why does there have to be an end a wonderful post with such diatribe? It just shows such lack of class.
This is honestly part of the reason why I find myself to be a Republican, because honestly I don't see as much ridicule for others in the Republican party as I do in the Demorcratic (or liberal) parties. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen in the Republican party, but it sure seems to be more prevalent on the other side.

Just my opinion, though.

You make some good points. I did notice a few of the "left" stopped posting as well. I don't really care who posts. I appreciate the posters who actually try to be civil and provide facts, and not just line after line of sarcasm, racism, and downright hate.


This post may clarify the issue a bit:
http://www.mycoupons.com/boards/elec...xperience.html

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Such bitterness........
There's no hate or racism on that thread. Sarcasm yes, that's my style. The thread was concerning all the hub bub about Sarah not being qualified to take over if something happened to McCain. My son had pointed out that if Palin became Pres and she chose an experienced Republican to be her VP then it would be the same situations as the Obama/Biden ticket becuase Obama actually has less experience than Gov. Palin. The "left" was unable to defend their stance that Palin is unqualified.

I guess it would be your opinion because I see it on both sides which is my opinion. Doesn't make it low class or without class, it makes it the truth as I see it. The last few weeks the posts here have been full of people calling the left anti women, baby killers, murderers, etc. I have seen the right post things about the Dem candidate that are known untruths which have been proven over and over by snopes to be untrue. But they still post them. The right has stated that being a mayor in a small town is greater than "a community organizer". Both are important to a country. The speech given by Sen Palin was as snide and ungenerous as they come and showed a general lack of class but to say anything about it, brought cries of unamerican and against women in general.

It doesn't make it right on either side but to say that the right doesn't make comments here that are rude, well I just don't think you have been paying attention.

And KTS also saw that some of her own posts were less than right as even though AIA didn't mention her name when she said
"just line after line of sarcasm, racism, and downright hate."

and KTS answered to defend herself.

Sorry, my miscommunication. I was not meaning that thread itself had hatred or racism. My mind tends to go faster than my fingers. I was referring to post #8 by Ana21, which was this:

"We're ignoring the thread just like you and friends did when a similar thread was started about Senator McCain's experience a few days ago.

What has Senator McCain done?

Besides looks like you all were having plenty of fun without us. "

Danny Boy made mention of a memo they did not recieve about not posting (paraphrasing)

Bitterness on my part??? No, I'm not bitter. Quite frankly, I wish people that had a problem with other posters could just ignore them rather than get into calling someone stupid, unhaman, or a cross burner.

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I was not saying KTS' posts were sarcastic exactly, I tried to explain that in my other post. I do see what you're saying, and yes, I think she did see some of that in her posts. I was actually referring to ana21's post about not posting.

Anyway......bottom line is, post if you want to post, reply if you want to reply, or don't if you don't want to. Just can we keep the real nasty stuff out of it??? Calling someone a cross burner and saying you hate them???? These were NOT posted by USNAMOM, just so we're clear. I love a good debate, I think it helps us get to the root of things. The more links the better. The more digging the better.

I don't think it does any good to constantly bring up in most EVERY post how someone feels about something, and being sarcastic about it to boot. This will only incite the person, and they will continue on and on and on and on.......

Let's stick with the issues.

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oh, hon! How many posts have you read on this board? Both sides have given as good as they go in ridicule department. And some posters have really, really, shown their ass on occasion (myself included!)--it's not one sided by any means. And frankly if you are seeing it that way, I have to wonder if that's the way you choose to see it. There has been venom and vile spewed by all (that's the nature of political discussion sometimes).

I know that on several occasions myself and some other posters have tried to be nice to one poster in particular. Even explained to her that her posting "style" was very, very offensive and that maybe she should consider changing her style. It was done in a very nice manner. She continues to post in a very offensive manner--and as such makes a lot of us shake our heads and wonder just what kind of person she really is. Sarcasm is one thing--hateful offensive comments are another.
Very few posters here have clean hands (there are a couple). Most, regardless of their political beliefs, have traded verbal barbs. It is not respective of political parties.

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Amen. I couldn't remember posting about the cross burnings or hating someone so thanks for posting what you did! LOL

The issues are what we should be talking about....the true issues. Not what someone read somewhere or heard at the corner store or got in an e mail forward about someone not wearing a flag pin. Wearing a flag pin or not will not get us out of Iraq or put more money in my pocket or more food on the table or give healthcare to children. The person who has a flag on their plane is not more capable of running this country than someone who does not, in my opinion. Those should not be the issues people argue about. A candidate is not better than another candidate because they have a certain plumbing or a color of skin but because of their dreams for America. Both candidates for Pres. have a vision for where they feel the country should go. That is what we should be discussing...their pathway to that vision.

I think it simply comes down to the old thing about "beating a dead horse."

And I mean this in the most "non-snarky" way....really.

I think it's just been all played out. We're on final approach to the election, and most people have decided how they are going to vote.

A healthy debate is just that...until it becomes "unhealthy." It's all just starting to sound like the Charlie Brown teacher around here --- "Wah wah wah wah wah." The same people, making the same basic statements, going after each other in the same way they have for weeks (and I'm not implying that I haven't been part of all that).

I've refrained from posting, for the most part -- except for the Matt Damon thread, which I found littered with hypocrital statements, but I stated my point and won't go bact there -- and the reason that I've refrained is simply because I really don't care how the rest of you are voting at this point -- right or left. I've made my decision, and most of you have made yours -- luckily I live in a state where my vote is going to count. My state is kind of up in the air and it hasn't really been determined which way it is going to swing, so I'm looking forward to casting my ballot.

So, if some of you still see some life in the "horse" and want to take a stick to it -- go for it. But don't think that because no one from the other side is responding means that they now agree or have no debate on the flip-side -- maybe it just means that they've left the stables and are waiting to get in line at the polls.

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I'd say that you probably perceive it that way when your team is on the receiving end of it....you're less likely to notice what's being said about the other side. I think that's just human nature...I see it the other way, that the Republicans are spreading the ridiculous lies.

As far as choosing your political affiliation because of it...well, that's not a very good reason imo. The party should represent your political ideals, as the Democrats do mine. If it's truly a matter of wanting to belong to the party that slings the least mud, you might want to check out Karl Rove a little closer...he perfected the art. When McCain, a former victim of Rove, actually acknowledged his existence in this election (never mind took advice from him) I knew that McCain was no longer the man he had once been. Like I said in an earlier post, I think he's just in it to win it now, not like he was in 2000. His principles have taken a back seat and, even aside from the election, that's just sad to see. The Republicans had to know even then that McCain was a better candidate than Bush but W was their boy and so they did whatever they had to to besmirch McCain, even calling into doubt his now-lauded patriotism.

Anyway, off track again! LOL!

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I assume you are talking about me Marilyn. If so, you are incorrect. I do not post hateful comments. I don't hate anyone, can't stand a few people but that's beside the point! lol I think the worst thing I have said on here is that someone is a bitter or unhappy person. I, on the other hand, have been called every name in the book on here including the "c" word by you my dear. (Yes, you did apologize.) I have asked all of you folks who feel the need to correct my 'style' to find posts where I call people names, etc... but no one can ever do it. So you don't like my style? SO WHAT. Ignore me. What offends the pc police on here doens't necessarily offend everyone else. Most people on here understand what I post. However, there is a subgroup that continues to try to belittle me, bring up things from prior posts and twist it, etc.. ad nausuem. For example, was the cross burning post the other day by someone in the above mentioned group acceptable to all of you that think I'm so awful? I don't think anyone from the pc group said anything negative about that post. Only the "nice' people on here seemed to take note. On my thread about taking my son to see McCain someone said they I shouldn't take my kid out of school to see him, I answered by saying he's home schooled and an honor student and you had to add your snarky comments about not being hard to be in the top of your class when he is homeschooled and other anti-homeschooling comments. I have talked about home schooling on here and since you seem to remember every thing I say you should have known he has only done it the last year and now this year and got a 34 on his ACT. But that doesn't stop you from making insulting remarks against me. Maybe you should stop trying to "teach" me how to post and take a look at your own attacks/nasty posts.

You are right, I did just start coming on here to read. I had never ventured here before.

well, my dear, I never sad you posted hateful comments. I indicated that an unnamed person posted things that were offensive. If you feel that shoe fits, then by all means wear it.

Yep, I did post on your going to see McCain thread. Deny that it's not hard to be the top of your class when you're the only one in it!--You can't because that's the truth! I'm not anti-homeschooling. I think most people who do it, do it for genuine reasons. It still doesn't mean that I think everyone should homeschool or that there should be some criteria for parents who want to homeschool.

I will repeat this once more--if I'm shown respect then I will give respect. That's how it is in the real world, and that's how it is on any board that I post on. Don't say things that you have no basis of proof on and expect others to not question you or disagree with you.

Frankly, if ever time *I* posted, I was told by numerous people that my "style" of posting was offensive then I would evaluate my "style". But that's just me--I don't necessarily want to offend anyone (and or everyone). And somehow, even though I've apologized (and you indicated you accepted my apology) you always bring that up. I feel that if you had truly forgiven a person then you don't continue to dredge up prior sins. I believe that you really haven't forgiven anything and are just paying lip service to being a Christian (really? What would Jesus do? If you ask forgiveness does he bring up your sins in every conversation? My Jesus doesn't. What about yours? Maybe you need to convert to Christianity!)
FYI--I don't read every post, I don't know what you do in your spare time, but I work, I raise my kids, I take care of my family. I'm on hold w/ one of my clients right now or I'd be working. (I hate freaking MUZAK). Please point me in the direction of the "cross burning"post...like I said, I don't read each and every post.

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The cross buring thread was here:

http://www.mycoupons.com/boards/elec...ast-month.html

She conveniently deleted that post but it shows up in others quotes. I was pretty darn hard on her for posting it, but I think it was well deserved.

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Thank you....I didn't read that post, because the topic didn't really interest me.

HAD I read it in real time I would have posted something to Jaded about the complete and utter ass that she made of herself comparing any poster on here to a member of the KKK or insinuating that any member on here would burn a cross. KTS' post did not warrant such a hateful and venomous post.
While I find some of kathy's post offensive, and full of bias, I couldn't defend jaded intimating that kathy is a card-carrying member of the KKK.

*HOWEVER*--kathy is not blameless in many of what she has called "attacks" on here. She's brought a lot of it one herself. She's also "started" the fights and when others have fought back she plays the victim....

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I can agree with that. I haven't been around long enough to have read all the posts or to know the whole history. I can only comment on what I've seen since I've been here.

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Well if people on here that I respect told me I was offensive I would take that to heart. When a person who calls me bad names (yes, I have accepted your apology but that doesn't mean it didn't happen and it just goes against your holier than thou attitude towards me about "correcting" the things I say, etc...) feels the need to tell me how I should post why would I bother to listen to that? You find me posts where I have called you bad names. I don't call you names-you call me names yet I"m the one who is supposed to respect you?
My thread was about going to a political event yet you have to bash my sons home schooling experience and talk about how it should be supervised, etc... Our state has criteria, which I've mentioned before. He got a 34 on his ACT so that's a score against the whole NATION so I'd say that smashes your remark about easy being in the head of your class when you are the only one. You are trying to throw digs at me, you know it, I know it, and anyone with a brain on here knows it too.
I like your quote "I dont' necessarily want to offend anyone" which leaves a door open when compared to I don't want to offend anyone. So maybe you DO want to offend some people which would explain your first post in this thread.
Too bad you are on here while you are working!!!!

WHAT are you talking about? Maybe I do want to offend??? Wow--I'm amazed at the convuluted twists and turns your logic takes.

Why is it too bad that I was on here while at work? My employer has no issue with it--so, why should anyone else? I work in the private sector so I'm not wasting taxpayer dollars.

And FWIW--I have tried to show you respect. I can't. Not when you insinuated that women who have abortions life while watching the embryo die and then throw a party. You show no respect for others who disagree with you, thus you are deserving of no respect.

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Ok Marilyn put your money where your mouth is. I NEVER insinuated any such thing and I beg you to find a post that did. I feel only deep sorrow for any woman that has had to have an abortion. I would NEVER judge them. I do think abortion is murder but I have always said hate the sin but love the sinner. A person can separate the act of abortion from the woman making the decision. Maybe YOU can't but I can. I believe I even told you once that I would hug you for what you had to go through. But you don't remember anything kind I have said on here do you?
You still did not address why you had to insult homeschooling etc... THat's one of your strategies isn't it??
I will wait for you to find that post about throwing a party. ANd if you are going to come back and say well maybe you didn't actually SAY THAT then don't insinuate that I did!!!

'Scuse me....but aren't you the one that protests outside of abortion clinics????

NEVER judge them??? Please...

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You deleted your posts out of the thread kathy....but you did insinuate it in this thread:
How do you explain abortion to a child? (and you know it). There have been a couple of posts removed--not just by you. If you say you didn't remove your post--you're lying.

Oh, and you misunderstand--I wasn't insulting homeschooling in general. I am mortified that you are, apparently, passing on your twisted logic and knowledge to the next generation. I know several homeschoolers (the neighbor behind us, as a matter of fact) and think those people do a wonderful job--and are incredibly patient and dedicated. Contrary to what you believe---I don't read everything that you write--I don't have the energy to slog through it. You got your wish--say hello to ignore. You're a liar, you have a mental illness and I can no longer stand to see your lies, vitriole and venom. As I told you when you offered me the hug--I don't want or need your sympathy. You are a pious, self-rightous, manipulator and I'm done playing this game with you. Go to hell!

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Ok, sorry, feeling in a mood tonite, and the sh*t is gonna have to hit the fan. Look out!!!

Ok, now, first of all did you address the "bitter???" issue you tried laying on me in another thread????

Now, secondly, I remember the post......someone who's name started with a "j" posted about having a party and such as they watch their aborted baby die. You replied to another poster who was disgusted by that posted "the truth hurts sometimes". Kathy, really, being the Christian woman that you are, please do not ask us to believe that you really think that is what happens. How could you think that? I won't say you are heartless, as I know you have a strong heart, which is evidenced in your passionate beliefs. But, PLEASE, learn how to post things that don't come across as so condemning and damning.

Lastly, wasn't it you who called MarilynK a murderer??? I keep seeing you post how she called you a vulgar word (which she has apologized numerous times for), but, I did not see you mention your indiscretion towards her.

Just trying to clear the air here.

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I don't know how to delete a post. I'm not very computer savy. So now I'm a liar huh? I had a mod close a thread of mine once when it went well post 50 posts but that's all I can think of doing.
I don't protest at clinics. I have gone there and prayed SILENTLY. No bad looks at anyone, no signs, just prayer. If that's considered intimidating so be it.
I just finished reading your post. Yes, you are definitely NOT a name caller! lol And you are unable, as usual, to find a post where I have called anyone a name. And your telling me to go to you know where certainly shows maturity and self control. Find a post where I even insinuated such a thing. You CAN'T. Please ignore me!!! What a wonderful day for me!!!
My son is SMARTER than I am by a longshot so I'm not passing too much "twisted logic" and knowledge to the next generation. DOn't you worry your pretty little head! My oldest son was a conservative BEFORE I was so I don't know who you can blame for that!
Have a wonderful life Marilyn! (Sincerely!)

Raises her hand slowly....I remember the post you answered with a hearty agreement to was about having a party after an abortion. ("Sometimes truth hurts!") Someone else posted in jest, I hope about having a party after havng an abortion and then inviting her son down to the doctor intimating that a visit to the doctor is and invite to an abortion and the subsequent party. It was posted on the Cafe I think in the thread about how to explain an abortion to a 7 year old.

Though the op might have been in jest, yours wasn't at all, Kathy. I caught it, and others caught it too. You deleted your post and the one in question as well. So, the rules are we can post whatever we want....say whatever we want, but when we are called on the carpet for our ignorance or meaness, claim it was a test, a joke, sarcasm that no one else gets or we just delete the post or the thread. Just trying to keep up here.

You say that people you respect can help you change your way of posting. The above postings from people you are always clapping on the back for their posts agreeing with you have both said some pretty interesting things about your "style". Are you listening?

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Originally Posted by kathytheshopper
Sometimes the truth hurts!!!

I swear to God you are the most stupid, and hateful individual I have had the misfortune to have had contact with.

The vast majority of women who choose abortions do NOT laugh, or throw parties--and if you can't understand that then you are truly, truly an idiot! Just when I think I can tolerate your dumb postings, you post something so vile that it turns my stomach. May God have mercy on your dark and sick soul.m (this was from Marilyn)


So you don't know how to delete a post. i call liar on that. Here is the proof. The original post is missing. But it was copied on numerous subsequent posts. Can you explain that?
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Right, but you aren't judging them.......Gotta love your cockeyed logic lady.

Why don't you just stay at home and pray SILENTLY. Instead of intimidating (not judging...right?) these women.

Geez you are one sick beeotch.

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Praying outside of a clinic is NOT JUDGING anyone. That's something you are reading into it. SOme might but I don't.

Sick beeotch? So nice of you!!!! Keep those names coming ladies-it only makes YOU look bad.

What do you hope to accomplish by this? That you will intimidate them into not having that abortion? If you only want to pray for them then do in your home. You can justify it all you want in your head that you are not judging them but you are. I don't have to read anything into it.

I can bet that you if you personally don't have signs with pictures of aborted fetuses or the like on them, somebody in your "prayer group" has at least one.

I've seen your "praying" sisters and brothers in front of clinics here. They aren't praying so SILENTLY.

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How do you explain abortion to a child?

Trying to help....

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Well unless I asked my son to do it (delete) I don't know how. i can ask him when he gets home if you all really want to know. It's possible I called him in and asked him to do it but I don't know how. The truth does hurt about abortions. I do not believe for one second that women throw parties. I was sitting at a womens clinic a* long time ago waiting to be seen for something and it was "abortion" day and a young girl was sitting next to me and started talking to me and told me it was her third abortion and that is was no big deal. I thought that was very sad. I certainly didn't hate her, I just felt really bad for her. This was years and years ago when I was in my early 20's.* She was very matter of fact about it. I often wonder how she is doing......poor sweet thing.
If you don't like what I post IGNORE me. What does it do for you to get on here and attack me? No, I'm not playinhg the victim. I don't have to. Your words prove it more than anything I can ever say on here.
On this thread alone I should go to H>>>, I'm a sick beotch, dumb postings, sick to my stomach, may god have mercy on her dark and sick soul.
EXACTLY WHAT DID I DO TO YOU???????????????????????? Please post the quotes.

Well, how do I know where that quote came from? It's not on there anywhere else. Was it taken out of context from another post of mine. And there are no references that I can see to having a party.

Somebody get Kathy her Martyr of the year shirt......please

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Originally Posted by jujubee2 View Post
I would say, "Junior, this is a procedure where a doctor rips a living baby from a woman's womb and then watches it die while he laughs. The mother follows the procedure with a Glad my kid is dead party. OK, Junior - time to go to the doctor for your checkup. Stop crying or I'll abort you."


Isn't it great when the op deletes the original post, but someone has quoted it in their reply? Things live on for posterity.

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WHAT?? You Might have asked your son to delete a post? but you don't know how but you might have asked him to. Please. This isn't about what abortion is about. Or what you do when you harrass people about abortions. It is about how you come across to people. And it is about you being the victim when caught. The posts are all here for you to read....do this, Kathy. go to your username, click on it and choose to read all postings by Kathytheshopper. Pretend you don't know you and are reading it about some "liberal" somewhere. Then see what is what. You have the potential to be a nice person, I think. But you really should let it show. It isn't funny, sarcastic or cute. The posts to you that people have made that you consider denigrating were made for a reason. I feel for you because introspection isn't fun if you can't see it. There aren't many people jumping to your defense. That should show something, hon.

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I did post that I thought someone was bitter. I don't equate that with the "c" word, dumb beotch and go to hell, etc...
I still can't find anything about a party and watching a baby die, which is a horrible thing for anyone to post in the first place. I'd also have to see what the reference of sometimes the truth hurts was actually linked to. Unless I quoted a prior post in my reply it may not have even been referring to the post you think it is.

Your wish is a command. Read the up posts and you can see that the original post from jujubee???? and your post which both were deleted and then were copied in at least three other posts for your perusal. The truth does hurt.

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[quote=usnamom;3047328]Though the op might have been in jest, yours wasn't at all, Kathy. I caught it, and others caught it too. You deleted your post and the one in question as well. So, the rules are we can post whatever we want....say whatever we want, but when we are called on the carpet for our ignorance or meaness, claim it was a test, a joke, sarcasm that no one else gets or we just delete the post or the thread. Just trying to keep up here.

Are you actually saying I deleted "the one in question" as well? I don't even know how to delete my own posts let alone someone elses. I don't think I have ever deleted a thread. Only had a mod close one of mine ONCE when it was off topic and past the 50 posts. I don't know how to close them myself or I wouldn't have had to ask the mod now would I???????? Take a chill pill PLEASE!!!

[quote=kathytheshopper;3047354]I am not hot. But I bet you are sitting there on the hot seat. You better take a chill pill. I don't think that anyone can delete a post other than the author. And the more you deny it.....well, I am reminded of my son when he was six, with chocolate all over his face telling me he did not eat the chocolate easter bunny.

We are getting to the 50th post here so I am betting the mod has been notified and will be closing this toot sweet.

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Oh now I remember that one!!! Well, I didn't think the original poster was being SERIOUS about that answer. However, the procedure part is accurate-a living "fetus" is sucked apart and the contents filtered through tubes and then inspected to make sure it was all removed. THAT is the truth I was thinking off at the time. NOT the rest of it which I didn't take to be serious in the first place. I hope that clears it up for everyone on here who immediately assumes the very worst about me. And the sorry fact is I do know of people who are so relieved to have it over and done with and "celebrate" it with dinner out.

[quote=usnamom;3047358]Then how did the original one get deleted since you insinuated that I removed them both and now you say only the poster can do it???

Silly girl. It already was cleared up. Very well as a matter of fact. And I really didn't mean that you deleted the original post though it is very suspicious and it isn't uncommon for people to have more than one username and that would allow some to say what they want and then post in agreement so they don't look crazy in their beliefs. But I am sure that isn't you.

But now you remember deleting that post, huh? How many a day do you delete?

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NO ONE has one of those signs in my group. We are led by a Catholic priest for heavens sakes. We say the Divine Mercy Chaplet. None of us has ever responded to the **** Offs that get hurled our way either. We are 100% peaceful and prayerful. Thanks for assuming something though!! lol A lib would NEVER do that! lol I'm sure you've seen some nasty pro-lifers but they aren't us. Don't judge me/our group by what you have seen from others. I'm sure you would be offended if I lumped YOU in with the **** off people here. It works both ways toonces.