I was really taken aback by the idea that Obama supported sex ed for kindergarten. Then it was explained by the left that no, it was just inappropriate touching education. Ok, fine I guess. However, that is not what this bill said.

McCain was right......

FOXNews.com - Did the McCain Campaign Misrepresent a Sex Education Bill Supported by Obama? - Brit Hume | Special Report

On Sex-Ed Ad, McCain Is Right, National Review Online: What Was That Illinois Sex-Education Bill Really About? - CBS News


as far as I'm concerned, Obama should have addressed this himself.

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Melissa

you know? Sometimes I wonder if politicians actually read these bills before they support them. And if they do read them, why do they support some (the wording on this one is horrible) and not others. I really do wonder if all politicians (regardless of party) try to do too much, or not enough on these bills.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

What frustrates me is the Obama camp knew McCain's ad was not a lie, but they are letting the public believe that it is. I know it goes both ways...

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Melissa

If something sounds too stupid to be true, it usually is. McCain's ad is a blatant lie.

FactCheck.org: Off Base on Sex Ed

It is not a blatant lie. That's been proven. A misrepresentation of what Obama SAYS his intentions were maybe, but the bill clearly states sex ed for K-12.

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Melissa

This has nothing to do with sex-ed, but is kinda interesting. . .Did you know that FactCheck.org was owned by the Annenburg Foundation? I don't know if it implies anything, but the Annenburg's are a major Obama contributor.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

The announcer in the ad says, "Obama's one accomplishment? Legislation to teach comprehensive sex education to kindergarteners. Learning about sex before learning to read?" Here's the ad:
JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008

It's a blatant lie.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Melissa

Isn't this the bill that Obama did read and didn't like the wording of it and said he'd vote for it if it was worded like another bill but then when it was he didn't vote that way?

I think you are thinking about the abortion bill. The one that had to do with saving the life of a baby that was the result of a botched abortion.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Here is what I found of the bill, read it for yourself and decide, I guess.

Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of SB0099

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Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

Ugh! Seriously, I only made it about 3/4 of the way through it. It does mention age appropriate, but it also seems to say that AIDS prevention should be covered at every grade level. I'm not sure what the intetnion of the bill really is. What a terribly written bill. I can't imagine anybody supporting it, not because of the ideas behind it, just because it is so ambiguous.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

And what about this bill makes it Obama's accomplishment since he neither wrote nor sponsored it?

It's my understanding that he voted in favor of it and supported it. Now I don't know what exactly "supported" it includes, maybe nothing more than voting for it.

I did find this. It is from the National Review, so take that into consideration. But I did find it interesting in that the reporter talked to the actual authors and sponsors of the bill. I don't know that his conclusions are right, but there is some good information regarding it:

On Sex-Ed Ad, McCain Is Right by Byron York on National Review Online

I think it's kind of a grey area.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Funded Partners - NASBE - DASH/HealthyYouth

Sounds like a Bush administration approved program. Shame on the States of Illinois, Arizona, Tennessee, Wyoming, and a number of other states for following CDC/Bush administration guidelines.

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Ana
The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

I don't think it's grey at all. And I don't think much of Byron either. Obama neither wrote nor sponsored the bill and McCain calls it his "one accomplishment."

If I were a legislator, I would have voted for it. Hate to say it, but child molestation happens every day in this country. Kindergarters need to be told it's wrong and that they can tell someone who can make it stop.

The ad is completely dishonest.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I meant that it is a grey area in Obama saying it was only for the innapropriate touching part that he supported it. Clearly the bill includes more than just that. I'm not saying I disagree with the intent of this bill either. . .not sure I would have voted for it, because it could have been written better.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

I know that it was meant to modify the main sex ed legislation. The wording indicates to me that it was also an effort to thwart abstinence only education.