Positions of most posters seem pretty entrenched.

I don't know that there is a lot of reason to continue to post if all we are going to do is go round and round and round about the same issues.

Is there anyone here is is really undecided? And if you are, what would you like to hear more about?

Me.

I believe we need a change, and I listen carefully to Obama's thoughts about change, I just have not heard how he intends to implement them. If he can show me exactly how he thinks he can get the economy back on track and reduce the "pork" waste it would be a big plus. Having a Democrat in office is probably what we need. But he needs to give me more info.

I don't know if McCain will do much as far as change in the way things are going now, but he is more in-line with my moral issues and a slower withdrawal from Iraq. Age is no issue for me - In the last election I did not care for Bush and Gore made me gag, so I wrote in my dad's name. He was 71 at the time and still working construction.

I took this test to see who I'm more in favor of and I came of 6 to 7.

Right now I'm just so disgusted with the mud slinging, that I'm getting disheartened.



There absolutely has to be change, but who can do it?

OH, and PS - the bickering an mud slinging on these threads does not help either. I don't know why we can't just have more civil discussions.

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Mary

Remember, change starts with you. You need to be willing to change as well. Change doesn't solely happen in the White House, it happens with with the people the President chooses in his administration, in the Senate, on the Supreme Court, and at your local level.

Both candidates are talking about change now, and I think they are both hard pressed to give us a clear picture of HOW they are going to do it. Why? Because not one person can do it....our system is not designed to allow one person to do it all.

And change is not going to happen over night. Anyone who ends up in office has a lot of work to do to clean up the decisions/damage of the last 8 years....and there isn't one person to blame for that. Who is most responsible is the American people...we want change, it needs to start with us.

If you are undecided, do your research...and don't do it here. Each candidate has a website with tons of information. They also may have local offices in your area, and you can go in and talk to someone. Make a short list of things that are important to you and your family and weight the pro's and con's. Also, take into account what state you a living in and how the outcome will effect your state....like if you are living in AZ or IL, having a Pres from your home state might increase benefits to you....like what Arkansas saw with President Clinton and Texas with Bush.

Avoid the TV commercials. Don't let them make your decisions. They are all designed to sku your way of thinking and it is a sad commentary on the American people that our votes can be swayed with the same kind of propaganda that is used to get us to buy Doritos and fabric softener.

Still don't know after all of that? Sit down and talk to someone you trust. Sometimes the best way to come up with a solution is to hear ourselves just talk it out.

Good luck with making your decision.

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I'm the kind of woman when my feet hit the floor in each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, she's up."

What she said!

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

Whoever takes office in January is inheriting a big fat mess. The economy is not going to recover quickly. Every single department is going to have to be cleaned out and up, especially justice. Our enormous deficit has to be addressed. We need industry. We need to give our kids a real education. We need affordable health care. Afghanistan is falling apart. We're on the verge of war with Pakistan. China is threatening to dump their US holdings. Global warming has to be addressed aggressively.

And, we're broke.

I hear the only undecideds are white non college educated white women who are registered independent.

Thanks, OP for bringing this thread up.

I am undecided this year.

I like coming here, because as much as I hold certain strong feelings about certain topics, I don't honestly have a sense yet of who can do the best job of putting us back on a course that I feel is right again. And I like reading everyones' views, because it really helps a person to see the many ways of looking at issues. Abortion is a big issue for me, but so are education (particularly revision of the 'No Child Left Behind' mess) and gay rights.

I don't think I'll have made up my mind until after the debates. I'm looking so forward to them (like all of you, I know).

I have voted democratic in every presidential election since registering. This is the 1st time that I don't know which way I'm going. I truly thought it would be Hilary. And I get it that Obama mostly stands for what she stood for. My DH is very much in favor of Obama. But this is the 1st election that I can remember where I just plain and simple haven't been moved. And it's not because it's dull this year -- far from it!

So, I'll continue reading, sounding off, and reading some more.

I don't think I've said this, but I really think about what is said in each post that I read here. Particularly the ones that I don't align with. Yeah, it gets ugly sometimes, but I'm glad to have you all, and this place. I know that every possible scenario is thrown out there at some point or other. Great pondering material!

D

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"The errors of faith are better than the best thoughts of unbelief." - Thomas Russell

One thing to take into consideration is the make up of the new congress. It's expected that both houses will have a majority of Dems the next time. If McCain gets elected, he may have a hard time getting much done. If Obama gets elected, probably, at least for the first few months, he will be able to make some progress. Whether we will all agree on the progress is debatable. Even though I'm am voting for Obama, (a dead certainty now that McCain has picked Palin as VP), I don't agree with a lot of what he, (Obama), wants to do.

Another thing to think about are the Supremes. There should be some empty seats in the next few years and what kind of court do you want to see. That will affect things for a long long time to come.