I'm surprised a thread hasn't been started on here about this. How disgusting is it that someone hacked into her email and even posted her daughters cell phone number? That's just awful.

I was going to start a thread on this but just hadn't gotten around to doing it.

I hope they find the person or persons who did this. From what I've read, they can be prosecuted but the media who reprints it or puts it on their websites cannot.

I feel like they'll be found because the last I heard authorities had found what resource was used and there's an identification number on the IP address (?). I'm not too computer savy so I'm not really sure what I'm talking about here. It's probably just a matter of time before they'll hear the banging on the door from the FBI!!!

I heard that someone got into the yahoo (I think site) and posed as Sarah and answered the security questions correctly and got yahoo to send them her password! I guess those standard questions for security would be pretty easy to guess accurately since they are such public figures.
I just heard that coming up on Gretas show on Fox there is a journalist (or someone) who said that anyone who supports Sarah Palin is white trash!!!! Can't wait to hear that segment!!! I certainly hope usnamom, marilynk,etc.. are offended by this namecalling and racial profiling!!!!!!

The internet activist group 'anonymous', famed for its exposure of unethical behavior by the Scientology cult, has now gone after the Alaskan govenor and republican Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

At around midnight last night some members affiliated with the group gained access to governor Palin's email account "gov.palin@yahoo.com" and handed over the contents to the government sunshine site Wikileaks.org.

I would post the link, but it has screen shots and I don't think that is ethical to post.

The people that did this were about as stupid as they come. If you look at the screen shots the morons included the proxy service and provided ID tag it gave them. Meaning the proxy service company probably can take that ID and match it to an IP address. Someone may be getting an unwanted visit from the Secret Service tomorrow. It could be they used multiple proxies and hopped through a couple of networks but one certainly does not want to give the Secret Service and all of the other government resources that will be working on this a place to start. If these were "pro's" they would have known better. It could be a mistake, but it is a bad mistake to make.

The website that is posting the info should also keep in mind that they are in possession of stolen property. I know they think it is all cool to claim it is a story and they will run it, but I have a feeling it will lead them to trouble as well. If they pulled the data from the wiki source themselves knowing that it was the product of a crime they will be charged with wire fraud and interstate transportation of stolen goods.

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Here's something from Wired that is interesting:

As detailed in the postings, the Palin hack didn't require any real skill. Instead, the hacker simply reset Palin's password using her birthdate, ZIP code and information about where she met her spouse -- the security question on her Yahoo account, which was answered (Wasilla High) by a simple Google search.

The simplicity of the attack, of course, makes it no less illegal.

The hacker said that he read all of the e-mails in the Palin account and found "nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped. All I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family."

Once the hacker had read the e-mails in Palin's account, he said he suddenly realized what he'd done and how vulnerable he was to being caught, since he'd used only a single proxy service to hide his IP address.

Quote:

yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this sh*t ever got to the FBI I was f*cked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidsh*t all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy | Threat Level from Wired.com

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Nah, that doesn't offend me. I couldn't find my white person baby name book so I am not sure that white trash is a "white" name.

I don't care who supports Sarah Palin. I know that I am not white and most assuredly not trash.

So, I thought you didn't want to engage me any more. Don't keep inviting me to the party if you aren't going to let me stay.

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Here is the article you mentioned. A lot of people are offended to still see this type of stereotyping.

Columnist’s Labeling Palin Backers ‘White Trash’ Spurs Review at Canadian TV - America’s Election HQ

"a Web site columnist who recently described Sarah Palin’s supporters as “white trash,” compared the vice presidential candidate to a “porn actress” and called her daughter’s boyfriend a “redneck” and “ratboy.”"

"another column by Mallick in which she trashed Palin’s home state of Alaska as a “frontier state full of drunks and crazy people.”"

Also that same "white trash" columnist said Sarah Palin looks like an 80's porn star!! I don't know how ANYONE could accept that statement. C'mon feminists, where are you????

Ah ha, I now understand why you take the things I say and mess with me...you can't handle the truth!
If you are so fair minded then labeling a bunch of people "white trash" SHOULD offend you. Or is only concerning the black race? Very interesting. So white trash is fine to call people but assuming the probabliity of the the race of a name is horrible. Very lopsided thinking IMHO.

Here's a link to the main article being referenced:

Heather Mallick's Official Website - A Mighty Wind blows through Republican convention

She sounds like a pig, no innuendo intended!

I think she is entitled to her opinion and can say whatever the h*ll she likes, but I can't believe the CBC would print that! I hope she realizes that she is just as crude, vulgar, racist and sexist as the people she tries to slam. :vomit:

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Oh, honey, I am not messing with you. I mean what I say.

The truth about what? What do you mean by that....I dont want to assume anything because it will turn out to be a joke, a test or sarcasm. So, answer what is meant by that.....I am sure I can guess but I want you to tell me.
You just keep digging that racist hole you live in deeper and deeper. I will bet that no one comes to your defense now.

I am fair minded. No one on MC posted anything about calling anyone white trash.

And by the way, you would recognize lopsided thinking.

I'm not your honey!
Whatever.
Look at post #7. This thread has posts about a columnist calling anyone who supports Palin "white trash". If you ARE fair minded that should offend you but you stated it didn't. I guess if it's ok with you for a group of people to be labeled "white trash" YOU are a racist!

Yep what she said is horrible. I saw a Canadian journalist interviewed on a news show last night and that question was asked-why would they allow such stuff to be printed. His response, and I don't remember his name, was that the Canadian media is very liberal so since that played into it it was ok. He also stated the few conservative journalist/columnists get picked apart all the time. That's too bad.

Yeah, why would someone allow someone to post racist garbage on the internet? And then not say anything about it. It is a mystery, isn't it?

usnamom-won't you address this please?

No, not before you answer the above subject as to what you meant by I can't handle the truth....about what?

And while you are it, answer the questions I asked you about how you figured out how to delete posts the other day.

And you might repost your newspaper that you "said" that had AA names in that crime blog.

And while you are at it you can answer any of a dozen things that people have asked you that you have ignored or changed the subject by asking something to defer the thread.

That should keep you busy while you wait for me to answer what little thing you want me to about white trash.

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Sigh.... I am not a racist because I didn't say anyone was white trash, did I? I know how to post what I mean and mean what I say. Very rarely do I have to explain myself more than once much less over and over and over again as you seem to so I could defend myself.

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1. The truth about race issues objectively.
2. Answered that several times already.
3. Wrong again. I was not talking about the crime blog. I have told you that repeatedly too. You just won't accept anything I say.
Why isn't white trash a racist term and why doesn't it offend you? Because you are racist-you don't seem care if white people are grouped and slandered.

No you didn't call anyone that. But you said it doesn't bother you that other people say it. That makes no sense. Is it a racist thing to say or not??????? Yes or no will do.

You are laughable and it would be so funny if you weren't so sad. No, I can't look at racists objectively. I can't look at bigotry objectively. I can't look at homophobia objectively. I am not supposed to. I am supposed to see it when it presents itself. I am a person of mixed race. Because I am, perhaps I am a bit sensitive but I am not the only one who saw it and you kept repeating it. And repeating it. And repeating it.

The reason I won't accept anything you say is because you have not always told the truth. Does that make you trustworthy? If you want me to point out any of the examples, I could certainly help you with that.

You do not understand what the word racism means. Even though it has been pointed out for you in each thread you post in. By more than just me which of course, means that more than just me thinks this way about you....what do you say about that?

The assumption you made concerning the crime rate in your area being blamed on people of color because of their names is most certainly stereotypical of a racist. People who are racist take something about one person in a certain race and use that to paint an entire race with that broad brush. All people named kathy are not bigots and think that homosexuals shouldn't be because a man's thingy shouldn't be put in another man's thingy but if I was going to be stereotypical and bigotted, I would say that all people named Kathy think this way. I have a sister named Kathy so I know that isn't true because she doesn't think like you do.

You, yourself, in that post say "This may sound racist......" So, you know somewhere deep down inside that the statements were wrong and racist. But you dug yourself deeper by continuing to post about your "friends who are black" and the bus driver who says a "certain group of people who live in the ghetto".......

Ignorance is awful.

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No. and because I have to make this longer than ten characters so it will post.....No.

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I must have missed the part where you learned how to delete that post. Please repost it. I can give a blow by blow about what you said but I don't want to make you look like a bigger fool than you already look.

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How in the h*ll did a thread about Sarah Palin's e-mails get BACK to the topic of race?

Hasn't this been beaten to death? usnamom, obviously you don't have anything to do because you keep repeating yourself and keep referring back to a thread that was, what, at least over a month ago? You're like a broken record rehashing and rehashing. So WHAT if Kathy says that blacks contribute to crime more in a certain part of her town? So what? So what if their names are Tyron, Tanisha? It happens in OUR town too. It happens everywhere. If you can't accept that, then you have your head in the sand and you obviously don't read the newspaper! The world is not a pretty place where crime is involved. My son is in law enforcement and he sees it every day. It's not just blacks. It's also Hispanics. Where he patrols, there are a lot of Hispanics and lots of trouble. That's life. That's what the world is today. And yes, the whites have their share of crime, too. Most of theirs is drugs, DUI, hit and runs.

So let it go -- let it go and get on with both your lives.

I am standing and applauding you, mom2twins.

Thank you for saying what I guess I haven't had the courage to say.

Again--because you quoted KTS--I read something she posted.

Frankly, I'm not even going to dignify her with a response.

All I can say is: 1) everyone should be very, very careful about the personal and private information they share online, or keep in your "address books" online--you never know when some ne'er do well will hack your account, 2) everyone should invest in a good firewall/firewire program. Will it doesn't stop all attacks--it might slow them down, or frustrate the hacker until they move on to eaiser prey, 3) I don't understand why public figures have accounts at Yahoo, or facebook or something like that--surely they have too much to do to keep up those accounts. I think I would!

I don't condone racist behaviour, nor do I condone illegal behaviour. It happens, though. Am I offended by it? Not necessarily. I am saddened by it though. People should show a little more decorum and self esteem than to stoop to hacking into an email account. I don't like sneaky, lying or subversive people. Anyway...I'm off to the gym
FYI for those of you who have missed it: I'm not "supporting" any current candidate. I don't particularly like either of them (from a politics standpoint).

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pssssst....just so you know: KTS brought race into the topic....

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming!

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Nice post-bash me and don't answer the ONE question I asked you with a yes or no and you said you would answer it if I answered yours. I guess that makes you a liar! lol . I'll ask it again
Is calling Palins supporters "white trash" a racist remark? Yes or No.
If yes, why didn't you say it doesn't bother you? If no, why the heck not? Let's see if you can actually answer this.
My bad, I missed your prior post so you are not a liar concerning this particular issue. White trash is a derogatory term against lower income white people not used in a complimentary way. That should bother you. Why doesn't it? Because it is derogatory against black people?
Not answering the delete thread post cause I already did.

Oh, we all know that Kathy even POSTing is an immediate hot button for usnamom. It's like a knee-jerk reaction --- "Did Kathy just post? Well let's get to regurgitating then..." It's sort of like Pavlov's dog experiment...

Plea to usnamom - PLEASE move on - the amount of posting that you do *directly* to or about KTS is downright staggering.

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Thank you mom! It got back to race because in the same story on the news about the emails they also brought up the insulting of the Palin supporters. Kind of tied in with the whole get the dirt on Sarah, etc... Or at least I thought it did! lol

usnamom
I'm going to be the adult, Christian here and offer you the olive branch. YOu have your views and I have mine. Can't we just STOP this ridiculous going back and forth. Please just ignore me if you don't like what I say. What do you think?

That's a good one!!! And I should just ignore her I know......Do you think she will accept the olive branch???? I'm trying one last attempt to take the high road here!

I'm sure ignoring would help.

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Kathy -- let it go. This girl is just jerking your chain and laughing the whole time. She's playing with you and she doesn't even know what she's saying anymore. Go enjoy your evening, Kathy.

Mom2twins, and Devinmom,

I know you mean well, but really you don't get it either. Kathy is not a victim here at all. She posts in every thread her special posts and I will post back when she posts something that I feel is silly or racist.

Kathy, the olive branch has been extended and I would accept it but when you post what I think might be racist things I will continue to question you. Others have given up because you haven't heard but hope springs eternal for me. When anyone posts things that I don't agree with, I have just as much right to post as anyone here. Just as KTS does.

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I won't begin to tell usnamom what she should/shouldn't do--but I'm infinitely more at peace since I re-discovered the ignore feature.

HOWEVER, when KTS goes and names poster specifically in her posts (in unflattering or negative manner) I feel those people should have every right to respond to her if they are so inclined.
At this point in time, I'm not necessarily inclined--I finally got tired of pounding my head on a brick wall!

I can tell you this--if KTS won't mention my name again (and people won't respond w/ quoting her) I will be more than satisfied.

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methinks they really enjoy this and each other. Both continually bait each other and can't seem to find the brakes to stop it. It isn't ridiculous now, it has been for a long, long time. Neither is right. Thus, I don't take anything either of them has to say seriously.

Oh, and it's ok, any topic is ok here on the election 2008 board, mc staffers have given that their stamp of approval, no boundaries at all.

Now about that furious pounding of the keyboard, I'm off to buy stock in Bayer and a keyboard company !

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Looks to me like that's a no.
Still didn't answer my question......figures.
Devinmom and mom2twins2-I know you get it and I thank you. I will do my best to ignore her for the sake of nice people like you who don't need to put up with this. Too bad she didn't accept the olive branch. I tried!

And what question was that again? I answered your question about whether I thought that white trash was racist. Did you see that?

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Is there a rule I've missed reading, that says KTS has to respond to usnamom?

Nope and as of this post I will try my darnest not to ever again!!

Is white trash racist? I don't think so.
Is it descriptive? Usually.
Is it offensive. Some find, when it is applied to them, that it is and others think it's funny.

Does Palin fit the description? Possibly, depending on what you think is trashy behavior. You can't argue the "white" part. The only part in question is the trashiness.

Do I think shooting wolves out of a helicopter trashy? You betcha.
Do I think attributing the winning of the governor's race to the laying on of hands of a man who is a self-confessed witch finder trashy? You betcha by golly.
Do I think parading a pregnant teenager on stage for the world to gawk at trashy? That would be a big ole yes indeedy.

Actually it was reported that SUPPORTERS of Palin are white trash. That's a pretty big group and it's certainly derogatory.
From Answers.com
Offensive slang
1. Used as a desparaging term for a poor white person or poor white people.
2. Used as a desparaging term for a white person or white people perceived as being lazy and ignorant.
So, using this definition, Palin supports are poor, lazy, ignorant WHITE people.

I didn't think the subject of the email being hacked into was really an election issue, but, I'll jump in.

You know??? Lots of people throw around all kinds of names for people....good and bad. It basically boils down to "if the shoe fits". I mean, really.....does anyone care about some yahoo calling supporters of a candidate trashy??? I couldn't care less. I think the actions of the person that said it are far trashier.

I have to also say, it was very exhausting reading thru this entire post. Please.....I will tell you like I tell my kids.....IGNORE THEM. They only do this to get a rise out of you, and when they see it doesn't bother you, they will (hopefully) stop!!!! If they don't stop??? Oh well......they have issues. Again, if the shoe fits, wear it.

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Well I think there are trashy people of all shades, and some are poor and some are not. Some are lazy and/or ignorant and some are not. And disparaging or not, it's not worth getting your shorts in a knot over. I do think calling all of her supporters a name is an ignorant thing to do, unless that person happens to know each one individually. I bet they are all so mad that in retaliation they are going to burn all their Obama signs and vote as one for the Palin/McCain ticket.

Besides if it's on Fox then it must be true. After all, they serve up the facts and nothing but the facts. Facts that have been checked, verified and checked again.

I got invited to the topic.

I don't understand why she gets a pass to post whatever she wants without explanation. But it doesn't matter because I don't really care what you think. Obviously. I believe there is a minority of people who have a care about and believe that KTS is a proverbial victim. She is able to say whatever she wants and gets a pass. I call BS on it and will continue to call BS. I can do so whenever I read it. That is why this is a public message board. I am not harrassing her as she gives it as good as she gets it. I didn't get the memo that said she can post whatever she wants and when it gets too hot for her, everybody back off.

But since I am a team player, I will just accept that those people who have pmd me saying that they understand exactly who and what KTS is and since I know as well, I will try and not bring it up again. But I can assure you that if she says something that in my estimation I would like to have explained further, bet your bottom dollar I will ask. It won't be picking on her at all, just asking her to be accountable for her posts with the facts that everyone is always asking for.

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White trash is a stereotype. . . .a racist stereotype! Just because you don't think so, doesn't make it true. It's similar to the "uppity" discussion we had on here. It helps to know the history of the word.

Read this:

American Sexuality Magazine -- That Ain't White

Whether they use the term white trash or not, most Americans are unaware of its long and ugly history. If you had to guess, you’d probably say that the term arose in the Deep South, sometime in the middle of last century, as a term that whites coined to demean other whites less fortunate than themselves. Yet most of what we presuppose about the term is wrong.

The term white trash dates back not to the 1950s but to the 1820s. It arises not in Mississippi or Alabama, but in and around Baltimore, Maryland. And best guess is that it was invented not by whites, but by African Americans. As a term of abuse, white trash was used by blacks—both free and enslaved—to disparage local poor whites. Some of these poor whites would have been newly arrived Irish immigrants, others semiskilled workers drawn to Baltimore and Washington, D.C. in the postrevolutionary building boom, and others still may have been white servants, waged or indentured, working in the homes and estates of area elites. The term registered contempt and disgust, as it does today, and suggests sharp hostilities between social groups who were essentially competing for the same resources—the same jobs, the same opportunities, and even the same marriage partners.

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You come up with the best links and information on here!!! You rock!!! I always knew it was an insult iwth racial overtones but I did not know the history of it. Thanks for clarifying this.

Jeez, these threads do take on a life their own, don't they.

Was there ever confirmation that somebody on a TV show actually used the phrase?

As far as the term, "white trash," I don't use it, don't like, but I don't get worked up over it.

So, I guess the next question is why it doesn't bother me but comments that stereotype blacks do?

I guess it because I have never felt demeaned because of my race. I suspect that I'd feel differently if the term used was one that invoked a history of violence or oppression or discrimination against me because of my skin color. And it would feel different if I had reason to believe that I was being marginalized or denied opportunities because of the color of my skin.

I don't. And last I heard, nobody got lynched because they were white trash, or even denied a job or a job opportunity because they were considered "white trash" as opposed to just "trash."

I don't like the term. But I don't get exercised about it either.

I posted the link to the original article. Here it is again:
Heather Mallick's Official Website - A Mighty Wind blows through Republican convention

Seriously Dannyboy. . .read it before you try to defend this woman. She said A LOT of nasty things.

"She added nothing to the ticket that the Republicans didn't already have sewn up, the white trash vote. . . ."

Why not just say poor white vote? Because she knows darn well that the term "white trash" has a lot of derogatory stereotypes tied to it. It's the equivalent to saying that Obama has sewn up the ghetto vote.

"It's possible that Republican men, sexual inadequates that they are . . . .No, she isn't even female really . . .White trash — not trailer trash, that's something different — is rural, loud, proudly unlettered (like Bush himself), suspicious of the urban, frankly disbelieving of the foreign, and a fan of the American cliché of authenticity. . . .What normal father would want Levi "I'm a ****in' redneck" Johnson prodding his daughter? . . . they know Barack Obama is not planning to finish off the ordinary hillbilly

And the history of the term "white trash" is an ugly one. It was targeted mostly at newly immigrated Irish immigrants. I don't think that I have to tell you that they most certainly did have a history of being discriminated against, and in fact many were indentured servants here.

I don't know about being lynched, BUT certainly people have been discriminated against for being considered "white trash", which is a derogatory term that places A LOT of stereotypes on being poor and white. If somebody is just trash, then fine. BUT that is not what the term "white trash" implies. It's a blanket statement against poor white people.

In a different article she pegged Alaska with being "a frontier state full of drunks and crazy people." Is she referring to Native Alaskans?

I don't get worked up over the term either. . .but this Mallick is a eletist, racist, sexist boob. . .and apparently the CBC is ok with printing her rants.

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I think I can offer an honest persepctive about Alaska - probably much more so than that so-called journalist. Are there drunks up here. Yes. Unfortunately, there is a very high percentage of alcoholics in the Native community. Crazy people? Yes. Hell, you have to be crazy to live somewhere that barely has light in winter and doesn't get dark in summer! That will drive you crazy if you're not already! However, we Alaskans (not considering the newbies who have migrated up here from OR and CA w/ their desires to turn Anchorage into their next liberal bastion) are a down to earth kind of people. We tend to be conservative w/ a libertarian twist. We mostly want to go to work, get paid, keep as much of OUR money as we can, and lead productive lives. We hunt, fish, etc. Does that make us white trash? Nah. It just makes us normal people. White (and black) trash are everywhere. It has nothing to do with who you vote for. It's how you conduct yourself. Me, personally, I think that writer is white trash but that's just my opinion. Speaking of Canada, it too has white trash. I was nearly ran off the road and followed for miles and miles by two Deliverance rejects while it was just myself, my sister and two kids driving to PA from Alaska. The writer really needs to get out and see more of her Canada before passing judgment on Alaska.

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How exactly? How have people been discriminated against because they are considered "white trash.?"

With regard to your assertion that "people have been discriminated against for being considered "white trash", " they really haven't on a general level. I'm really hard pressed to come up with a single instance of someone being discriminated against for being "white trash."

Actually, when you come to think of it, I'm more than hardpressed. I've never known it to happen.

As I have said, I don't like the term. But as far as linking it to some broader issue about discrimination against whites, I don't know of anything to support your assertion.

Certainly, if you have some objective basis for making your assertion that that people have discriminated for being "white trash," I'm open to discussing it.

I feel that I'm fairly up to date with what is happening in this field. And I don't know any current study or even anecdotal evidence that would support a statement that "certainly people have been discriminated against for being considered 'white trash,'"

If you have some evidence that shows otherwise, just post it. I'd be in a better position to respond.

Just based on your assertion, however, I've gotta say, "nope."

Dannyboy/Maureen

I'm just curious - why do you feel that the term "white trash" has to actually get you, personally, charged up inside in order for it to qualify as a racist term, or discriminatory?

I certainly don't feel the need to run every racist-sounding term by you for a stamp of approval. If you're an educated, thinking woman (like the majority of others on this board), then ponder it/investigate it on your own. If you can't come up with anything after what you've already been spoon-fed here, then I have another word for you to look up...try "ignorance"...

You tend to make your point, and then restate it several times. We know how you feel, now. For you, "white trash" is in the "nothing-to-get-excited-about" category. We get it. Next...

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Dannyboy restated her position "several times" in response to hambirg's post above.

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