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Old 09-19-2008, 08:05 PM
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Good grief- what a sexist, racist liberal!

I have no words.

And that's saying a lot.

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Old 09-19-2008, 08:12 PM
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Whether her views are liberal or not seem irrelevant. She's a sick, pathetic pig.

What she said was cruel to Palin as well as blacks, and even to Manhattan residents... it was just horribly wrong all over, and she doesn't deserve our attention over it.

She must be thrilled, though. Something beyond crass that she said finally got her noticed again...after all these years.

Sad that this is how you can relaunch a 'comeback' in today's society.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:14 PM
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That was absolutley horrible. Thanks for posting it. I don't know why or how this can go over as comedy or anything else for that matter.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:33 PM
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Yeah. . .that was pretty bad! But I'm not surprised. Bernhard has always been a loud-mouthed, untalented, hack as far as I'm concerned.

Somebody left this comment and he makes a valid point:

When I hear those comments, I understand why black people continue to say that racism is alive and well in our country. Their mistake, however, is thinking that those white liberals that support Obama are not racists. If the first thing that comes to mind while hating a conservative woman is black men raping her, it might be that the liberals are the racists to watch out for.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:35 PM
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Whether her views are liberal or not seem irrelevant. She's a sick, pathetic pig.

What she said was cruel to Palin as well as blacks, and even to Manhattan residents... it was just horribly wrong all over, and she doesn't deserve our attention over it.

She must be thrilled, though. Something beyond crass that she said finally got her noticed again...after all these years.

Sad that this is how you can relaunch a 'comeback' in today's society.
LOL! I was thinking the same thing! She must be thrilled with her B-list self. . .getting all this attention.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:45 PM
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I have no words to describe this person. And this is the liberal side of Hollywood, huh? And that's who is supporting Obama?

Why doesn't this surprise me?
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:22 PM
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I have no words to describe this person. And this is the liberal side of Hollywood, huh? And that's who is supporting Obama?

Why doesn't this surprise me?
I'm sorry, but where did anyone say that this sick, twisted, sorry excuse for a human represents all liberal Hollywood and/or those who support Obama.

This particular female has made "shock factor" her forte. Kind of like Anne Coulter or Rosanne Barr or Rosie.....I pay about as much attention to these kind of people as I do the plot of karate movies.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:41 PM
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I missed something...is that supposed to be talent. Is this "person" supposed to be entertaining...would people actually pay to see that garbage?

I never "got" her on Rosanne and now with her insults on whites, blacks and women, who does she have left?

A lot of comedians make fun of people, races, gender, etc, but not in such a volatile, hostile, vicious manner.

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Old 09-20-2008, 03:15 AM
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She's an ugly, pathetic nonentity. She needs to try and shock society in order to get attention. Margaret Cho is another just like her.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:31 PM
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I agree that it was uncalled for but I don't think she represents Hollywood any more than someone represents Iowa or Colorado or South Carolina. I don't appreicate what she said at all. I think it is ugly but as was stated before it is her perogative to say whatever she wants, right? No one has to agree with her, right?
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:18 PM
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The democrat party sure does seem to attract a disproportional shares of the sick venomous scumbags among us. Check out the posts at the huffington post and daily kos there are enough of them there. To think that most of the democrat party presidential candidates attended the daily kos convention makes me sick. There is no place for hate speech of any kind in a civilized society. Candidates seeking to be President of all the United States should not be aligning themselves with such people.
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Whether her views are liberal or not seem irrelevant. She's a sick, pathetic pig.

What she said was cruel to Palin as well as blacks, and even to Manhattan residents... it was just horribly wrong all over, and she doesn't deserve our attention over it.

She must be thrilled, though. Something beyond crass that she said finally got her noticed again...after all these years.

Sad that this is how you can relaunch a 'comeback' in today's society.
I was thinking along the same lines......when I saw who said it, I really didn't even NEED to actuallly see/hear/read what she said.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:24 PM
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Who said Mr. Obama had any affiliation with this woman? I am 100% positive that Obama would comdemn forcefully the rantings of Bernhard. I would love someone to show where either of the candidates on the Obama/Biden ticket are "aligned" with this ranting woman.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:47 PM
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The democrat party sure does seem to attract a disproportional shares of the sick venomous scumbags among us. Check out the posts at the huffington post and daily kos there are enough of them there. To think that most of the democrat party presidential candidates attended the daily kos convention makes me sick. There is no place for hate speech of any kind in a civilized society. Candidates seeking to be President of all the United States should not be aligning themselves with such people.
No place for hate speech, huh?

Nice post.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:50 PM
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Who said Mr. Obama had any affiliation with this woman? I am 100% positive that Obama would comdemn forcefully the rantings of Bernhard. I would love someone to show where either of the candidates on the Obama/Biden ticket are "aligned" with this ranting woman.

The way I've interpreted the above posts, everyone so far has blasted that hideous woman who aligns herself with the current democratic ticket. Nobody said the reverse was true. And I myself would absolutely expect the same condemnation from Obama that you would.

The question does seem to be, though, why is it that the creepier Hollywood celebrities are drawn to Obama?
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:52 PM
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I agree that it was uncalled for but I don't think she represents Hollywood any more than someone represents Iowa or Colorado or South Carolina. I don't appreicate what she said at all. I think it is ugly but as was stated before it is her perogative to say whatever she wants, right? No one has to agree with her, right?
Excellent points.

Too bad she's given any audience, it is disturbing that there is a target audience out there for even her rants. But you're right - she's free to say what she wants.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:07 PM
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The way I've interpreted the above posts, everyone so far has blasted that hideous woman who aligns herself with the current democratic ticket. Nobody said the reverse was true. And I myself would absolutely expect the same condemnation from Obama that you would.

The question does seem to be, though, why is it that the creepier Hollywood celebrities are drawn to Obama?
I really think a lot of people are overthinking this "celebrity's" comments. I don't know so much that she's drawn to Obama or is aligned w/ the current Democratic ticket---I seem to think that she saw an "easy" target for her venom. Unfortunately, even in this day and age, sexist remarks are not deemed or seen as offensive as racist remarks (especially if those sexist remarks are coming from another female). I don't see this person as a representative of the Democratic party, nor as a representative of Obama.

And furthermore---I'm pretty sure there are enough crazy supporters to go around in this election!
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Well, creepy to me would also include people like Carl Rove...and where his alliance falls is obvious....that does not make all, or even most of McCain's supporters also supporters of Rove.

Same with Obama supporter....they support one on one; you cannot paint them all with one brush stroke.
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I don't think it's so much that she represents Obama or ALL his supporters. I do think pointing out her racist rant is similar to how sometimes people like to point out that some dork on the conservative side goes against some "family values" stand. It's just pointing out that somebody, that claims to be liberal and supports the "equal justice" stand is being racist. She's being a hypocrite. . .it happens on both sides.
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:00 PM
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The democrat party sure does seem to attract a disproportional shares of the sick venomous scumbags among us. Candidates seeking to be President of all the United States should not be aligning themselves with such people.
Guess what all these scumbags have in common.

Bauman of Maryland, House of Rep. Voted against gay rights, while sneaking away from his wife to troll for male sexual encounters
Hinson of MS, House/Senate, Waggled his penis at an undercover cop, got elected anyway and then got caught again.
Evans of Delaware, House, Affair with female lobbyist
Schmitz of Calif., State Senate, Had 2 kids with his mistress
Crane, Ill., House, Had sex with a female page
Konnyu, Calif., House, Had sex with a male page
Lukens, Ohio, House, Offered a mom money to have sex with her daughter
Strangeland, Minn., House, Affair with a female lobbyist
Packwood, Oregon, Senate, accused of sex abuse
Livingston, Louisiana, House, Affair
Hyde, Ill., House, Affair
Barr, Georgia, Big proponent of anti-abortion bill, had an affair with wife 2 while still with wife 1, who he talked into having an abortion.
Calvert, Calif., House, Affair
Gingrich, Affair
Schwarzeneger, Calif, Gov., admitted groping females
Ryan, Ill., Senate Candidate, Sex club member
Schrock, VA, House, Sex with male prostitute
Sherwood, Penn., House, Affair and abuse of mistress
West, Spokane CA, Mayor, Child molesting
Ganon, White House Corresp. gay prostitute. Paid over 200 visits to the White House
Haggard, CO, Preacher, Meth and prostitutes
Vitter, LA, Senate, DC Madam
Tobias, Gov. post, DC Madam
Allen, FL, House, Soliciting police in restroom
Murphy, Pres of the Young Republicans Nat. Fed., Sexual assault of a sleeping man.
Craig, Idaho, Sex in a restroom

Give up? All Republicans. And I just remembered, I forgot to put Foley on the list. Given the list, I think the Republicans seem to, not only attract, but, elect a lot of scumbags.

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Give up? All Republicans. And I just remembered, I forgot to put Foley on the list. Given the list, I think the Republicans seem to, not only attract, but, elect a lot of scumbags.
You forgot Mike Tyson, convicted rapist, who supported Republican Michael Steele. Following the logic of some posters here, I guess all Republicans look on rapists with approval?

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Well, we can not forgot the two biggest Democrats with "problems". I am sure they are more just these come to mind first.

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Guess what all these scumbags have in common.

Bauman of Maryland, House of Rep. Homosexual encounter
Hinson of Louisiana, House/Senate, Homosexual encounter
Evans of Delaware, House, Affair with female lobbyist
Schmitz of Calif., State Senate, Had 2 kids with his mistress
Crane, Ill., House, Had sex with a female page
Konnyu, Calif., House, Had sex with a male page
Lukens, Ohio, House, Offered a mom money to have sex with her daughter
Strangeland, Minn., House, Affair with a female lobbyist
Packwood, Oregon, Senate, accused of sex abuse
Livingston, Louisiana, House, Affair
Hyde, Ill., House, Affair
Barr, Georgia, Big proponent of anti-abortion bill, had an affair with wife 2 while still with wife 1, who he talked into having an abortion.
Calvert, Calif., House, Affair
Gingrich, Affair
Schwarzeneger, Calif, Gov., admitted groping females
Ryan, Ill., Senate Candidate, Sex club member
Schrock, VA, House, Sex with male prostitute
Sherwood, Penn., House, Affair and abuse of mistress
West, Spokane CA, Mayor, Child molesting
Ganon, White House Corresp. gay prostitute. Paid over 200 visits to the White House
Haggard, CO, Preacher, Meth and prostitutes
Vitter, LA, Senate, DC Madam
Tobias, Gov. post, DC Madam
Allen, FL, House, Soliciting police in restroom
Murphy, Pres of the Young Republicans Nat. Fed., Sexual assault of a sleeping man.
Craig, Idaho, Sex in a restroom

Give up? All Republicans. And I just remembered, I forgot to put Foley on the list. Given the list, I think the Republicans seem to, not only attract, but, elect a lot of scumbags.
You should be VERY careful in listing "homosexual encounter" in with a list of crimes that you claim to be attributed to "scumbags". That's as carefully nice as I'm going to be on that subject. Consider it a warning.
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Ooh, a warning. Shake.
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You should be VERY careful in listing "homosexual encounter" in with a list of crimes that you claim to be attributed to "scumbags". That's as carefully nice as I'm going to be on that subject. Consider it a warning.
Wait a minute......aren't the Democrats the ones that stand on the platform for same sex marriage? Isn't that what a homosexual is?

Not to mention, I think that could be very insulting to call someone that is homosexual a scumbag. That is there sexual preference.
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Ooh, a warning. Shake.
Ignore. . . .
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You should be VERY careful in listing "homosexual encounter" in with a list of crimes that you claim to be attributed to "scumbags". That's as carefully nice as I'm going to be on that subject. Consider it a warning.

Oh good grief. What are you gonna do? Reach through the computer screen and pimp slap her? I mean really.....

Depending on what kind of homosexual encounter we're talking about, it very well could indicate that the person is a scumbag. Not because the person is a homosexual---but because of the kind of encounter they were involved in.

I find it to damned funny that you gave a "warning"---shaking head, exiting thread
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Oh good grief. What are you gonna do? Reach through the computer screen and pimp slap her? I mean really.....

Depending on what kind of homosexual encounter we're talking about, it very well could indicate that the person is a scumbag. Not because the person is a homosexual---but because of the kind of encounter they were involved in.

I find it to damned funny that you gave a "warning"---shaking head, exiting thread
Uh. . .so now you're defending homophobes? I'm pretty sure she just listed "homosexual encounter."

If it was, in fact, some kind of "scumbaggish" encounter then she could have simply listed the crime. . .but she doesn't. She just lumps "homosexual encounter" in with a bunch of crimes and calls it scumbaggy.

Hmmmmm. . .

Just so we're all clear on this, you are defending somebody that posted something offensive and homophobic in support of some B-list celebrity's racist rant? And then you are poking fun at me because I called her on it? Sooooo sorry if I don't think "homosexual encounter" is a crime. I apologize for not thinking that homosexuals are criminal scumbags. My bad. . . .
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Uh. . .so now you're defending homophobes? I'm pretty sure she just listed "homosexual encounter."

If it was, in fact, some kind of "scumbaggish" encounter then she could have simply listed the crime. . .but she doesn't. She just lumps "homosexual encounter" in with a bunch of crimes and calls it scumbaggy.

Hmmmmm. . .

Just so we're all clear on this, you are defending somebody that posted something offensive and homophobic in support of some B-list celebrity's racist rant? And then you are poking fun at me because I called her on it? Sooooo sorry if I don't think "homosexual encounter" is a crime. I apologize for not thinking that homosexuals are criminal scumbags. My bad. . . .

Oh, alright, I'll play---
Bauman is an anti-gay activist. The fact that he was charged with having a homosexual encounter w/ a 16 y/o boy he picked up in a bar clearly indicates that 1) he's a hypocrit, 2) he likes his boys YOUNG--also some sites report he likes animals too.

Now, I couldn't find Hinson from LA, but Rep Hinson from MS--denied his homosexuality, blaming all his behaviours (exposing himself to an undercover cop while trying hook up w/ the cop, attempted oral sodomy, etc.) on alcoholism. He later died of AIDS.

I'm not, nor have I ever defended a homophobe. And to my knowledge--No one on this thread has defended the rant by the celebrity. I believe that the list was posted in response to a couple of posts about how "bad" the Democrats and/or liberals were. If you'd like to continue accusing me things--that's your perogative. You'll just look stupid though--do you really want to look more stupid?
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Oh, alright, I'll play---
Bauman is an anti-gay activist. The fact that he was charged with having a homosexual encounter w/ a 16 y/o boy he picked up in a bar clearly indicates that 1) he's a hypocrit, 2) he likes his boys YOUNG--also some sites report he likes animals too.

Now, I couldn't find Hinson from LA, but Rep Hinson from MS--denied his homosexuality, blaming all his behaviours (exposing himself to an undercover cop while trying hook up w/ the cop, attempted oral sodomy, etc.) on alcoholism. He later died of AIDS.

I'm not, nor have I ever defended a homophobe. And to my knowledge--No one on this thread has defended the rant by the celebrity. I believe that the list was posted in response to a couple of posts about how "bad" the Democrats and/or liberals were. If you'd like to continue accusing me things--that's your perogative. You'll just look stupid though--do you really want to look more stupid?
I'm pretty sure hambirg is not and does not look stupid! Her posts are always informative and backed with links, etc... I love her spunk!
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Oh, alright, I'll play---
Bauman is an anti-gay activist. The fact that he was charged with having a homosexual encounter w/ a 16 y/o boy he picked up in a bar clearly indicates that 1) he's a hypocrit, 2) he likes his boys YOUNG--also some sites report he likes animals too.

Now, I couldn't find Hinson from LA, but Rep Hinson from MS--denied his homosexuality, blaming all his behaviours (exposing himself to an undercover cop while trying hook up w/ the cop, attempted oral sodomy, etc.) on alcoholism. He later died of AIDS.

I'm not, nor have I ever defended a homophobe. And to my knowledge--No one on this thread has defended the rant by the celebrity. I believe that the list was posted in response to a couple of posts about how "bad" the Democrats and/or liberals were. If you'd like to continue accusing me things--that's your perogative. You'll just look stupid though--do you really want to look more stupid?
Then why not just post "soliciting a minor" for Bauman? The OP lists "homosexual encounter."

Same with Hinson. . .list his crimes not "homosexual encounter." Btw. . .I don't think being a closeted homosexual makes "sexual encounter" any more criminal.

I stand by my warning. . .lumping "homosexual encounter" in with a list of crimes attributed to scumbags is WRONG IMHO!
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Then why not just post "soliciting a minor" for Bauman? The OP lists "homosexual encounter."

Same with Hinson. . .list his crimes not "homosexual encounter." Btw. . .I don't think being a closeted homosexual makes "sexual encounter" any more criminal.

I stand by my warning. . .lumping "homosexual encounter" in with a list of crimes attributed to scumbags is WRONG IMHO!
It's is criminal, IMHO, when these people campaigned against gay rights. So, yes, being a closet homosexual does make them even bigger scumbags. They can't even be true with themselves!
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It's is criminal, IMHO, when these people campaigned against gay rights. So, yes, being a closet homosexual does make them even bigger scumbags. They can't even be true with themselves!
No! It just makes them a hypocrite. Just like a woman that campaings against abortion rights, then finds her self in a position where she chooses to have an abortion. Is she a criminal? No! Is she a hypocrite? Yes! Is she a scumbag? I'm not sure. . .

The fact of the matter is that wildwood didn't present it that way. Are these guys skummy? Sounds like it. BUT that's not how she posted it. Hence my warning to her to be VERY careful. She made a post lumping names next to "homosexual encounter" along with names posted next to crimes. She never came back and explained herself. She never apologized for not being more clear. Soooo. . . her post was homophobic. Is she a homophobe. . .I really don't think so, BUT the fact that she never came back and corrected herself makes her suspect.
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:35 AM
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Sandra Bernhard is trailor trash.
LOL! Thanks for making me almost pee myself!
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:24 AM
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Shouldn't that be white trailer trash?? lol
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:05 PM
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No! It just makes them a hypocrite. Just like a woman that campaings against abortion rights, then finds her self in a position where she chooses to have an abortion. Is she a criminal? No! Is she a hypocrite? Yes! Is she a scumbag? I'm not sure. . .

The fact of the matter is that wildwood didn't present it that way. Are these guys skummy? Sounds like it. BUT that's not how she posted it. Hence my warning to her to be VERY careful. She made a post lumping names next to "homosexual encounter" along with names posted next to crimes. She never came back and explained herself. She never apologized for not being more clear. Soooo. . . her post was homophobic. Is she a homophobe. . .I really don't think so, BUT the fact that she never came back and corrected herself makes her suspect.
The reason I haven't posted yet is because unlike some of you, I have a life. First off, I do not consider homosexuals bad, scumbaggy or any other derogatory term. I posted that list because someone posted that the Dems seemed to attract venomous scumbags. The list was to just point out that they can be found on both sides of the aisle. And since many many Republicans consider homosexuality to be wrong, they were included in the list.

The fact is, that scumminess is bipartisan and if you want to throw that mud to the Dems, then expect it to get thrown back at you. My list only included sexual scumminess. If I had included non-sexual criminal scumminess it would have been way too long to post for either the D's or the R's.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:20 PM
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Oh, alright, I'll play---
Bauman is an anti-gay activist. The fact that he was charged with having a homosexual encounter w/ a 16 y/o boy he picked up in a bar clearly indicates that 1) he's a hypocrit, 2) he likes his boys YOUNG--also some sites report he likes animals too.

Now, I couldn't find Hinson from LA, but Rep Hinson from MS--denied his homosexuality, blaming all his behaviours (exposing himself to an undercover cop while trying hook up w/ the cop, attempted oral sodomy, etc.) on alcoholism. He later died of AIDS.

I'm not, nor have I ever defended a homophobe. And to my knowledge--No one on this thread has defended the rant by the celebrity. I believe that the list was posted in response to a couple of posts about how "bad" the Democrats and/or liberals were. If you'd like to continue accusing me things--that's your perogative. You'll just look stupid though--do you really want to look more stupid?
Thanks for clearing this up. You got the point of what I was saying. It obviously was over the heads of some. I did have the state wrong for Hinson, poor man.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:21 PM
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Willwood--Don't you know that you HAVE to be on the timetable that these ladies set out for you? Did you not know that you have to sit next to your computer screen waiting for their directives of when and, lately, what you can post? The freedom to have a life away from the computer screen has been taken from you lest you be labelled a hypocrite or that you are running away from their educated posts because you just cannot possibly keep up. jeez wildwood..get with the program....

Oh, and now I suppose that I should sit here and wait for the attack on me just so I don't miss the deadline arbitrarily set by "those that rule" here........NOT!!!!!!
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:45 PM
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Willwood--Don't you know that you HAVE to be on the timetable that these ladies set out for you? Did you not know that you have to sit next to your computer screen waiting for their directives of when and, lately, what you can post? The freedom to have a life away from the computer screen has been taken from you lest you be labelled a hypocrite or that you are running away from their educated posts because you just cannot possibly keep up. jeez wildwood..get with the program....

Oh, and now I suppose that I should sit here and wait for the attack on me just so I don't miss the deadline arbitrarily set by "those that rule" here........NOT!!!!!!
I guess I missed that meeting. Someone should have told me.
Does that apply to them as well? I'm watching the clock in anticipation. It adds a whole new dimension to this wacky board.

If you would all like to go back, I edited my original post and now everyone is happy, right?
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:39 PM
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I guess I missed that meeting. Someone should have told me.
Does that apply to them as well? I'm watching the clock in anticipation. It adds a whole new dimension to this wacky board.

If you would all like to go back, I edited my original post and now everyone is happy, right?
Yes, thank you for going back and correcting that. I'm not sure why you just didn't post it in that manner the first time.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:46 PM
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I've never understood why people like this remain in the public eye.
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I've never understood why people like this remain in the public eye.
I think therein lies the problem. She, being a washed-up friend of Madonna, had to jump on the hate-Palin train in order to get some publicity. The hate being spewed from some of this women (Bernhard and Cho for examples) is so ridiculous it's almost funny.
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I think therein lies the problem. She, being a washed-up friend of Madonna, had to jump on the hate-Palin train in order to get some publicity. The hate being spewed from some of this women (Bernhard and Cho for examples) is so ridiculous it's almost funny.
Palin is just the subject de jour. Bernhard will find something horribly crude to say and will get publicity for saying it on about any subject. I just don't get how she remains in the public eye.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:57 PM
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Yes, thank you for going back and correcting that. I'm not sure why you just didn't post it in that manner the first time.
It was a test. I do apologize for underestimating the ability of others to look things up on their own.

I also realize that since I had the wrong state, that Hinson would have been more difficult to find. That would have earned you extra credit. Although I did find him, as did MarilynK.
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You do realize that you have now just offended everyone that lives in a trailer, right???
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You do realize that you have now just offended everyone that lives in a trailer, right???
they are no longer called trailers...they are either "mobile homes" or "manufactured homes"
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they are no longer called trailers...they are either "mobile homes" or "manufactured homes"

Oh NO, now I guess it is I who has also offended......LMAO. It is so hard to keep up with all the political correctness these days
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The reason I haven't posted yet is because unlike some of you, I have a life. First off, I do not consider homosexuals bad, scumbaggy or any other derogatory term. I posted that list because someone posted that the Dems seemed to attract venomous scumbags. The list was to just point out that they can be found on both sides of the aisle. And since many many Republicans consider homosexuality to be wrong, they were included in the list.

The fact is, that scumminess is bipartisan and if you want to throw that mud to the Dems, then expect it to get thrown back at you. My list only included sexual scumminess. If I had included non-sexual criminal scumminess it would have been way too long to post for either the D's or the R's.
Your life can't be that busy, it must of taken hours to compile that list unless of course you keep a republican scumbag list at the ready.

I said "The democrat party sure does seem to attract a disproportional shares of the sick venomous scumbags among us" thus the operative word in the sentence is "disproportional". Never did I say it couldn't be found in the republican party.
http://leaningstraightup.com/2007/03...-potty-mouths/

By the way it looks like the democrats are working overtime to get more scumbags in the party ranks.
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While I will vote for Obama and Biden to say that about Sarah Palin was totally unfair and truly disgusting, totally tasteless and poor judgement. Catherine
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I also have to add while I am a proud left winged liberal democrat please do not say all liberals are that way. In both partied whether conservative or liberal and whether democrat or repbulican over the years there are good and bad in all and thats just the plain truth. Neither party is exceptional and no one politican is always 100 percent perfect, afterall they are humans and as humans sometimes they make bad choices in their public or private lives. Peace Catherine
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Old 10-05-2008, 04:56 AM
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I also have to add while I am a proud left winged liberal democrat please do not say all liberals are that way. In both partied whether conservative or liberal and whether democrat or repbulican over the years there are good and bad in all and thats just the plain truth. Neither party is exceptional and no one politican is always 100 percent perfect, afterall they are humans and as humans sometimes they make bad choices in their public or private lives. Peace Catherine
I couldn't agree with you more. . . BUT there are some people on this board that think they have a monopoly on moral righteousness. Uh. . . NOT! There is this assumption that all people that support the Republican ticket are bible thumping people that are "bitter and clinging to their guns and relgion."
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