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Old 09-23-2008, 05:00 PM
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OMG I am so excited that my red state could flip

And not just for Obama but we may finally get rid of Big Oil Baroness Sen. Libby aka "Liddy" Dole too.

I was talking earlier to my sister who is about 60 miles from me but still in NC. She is retired and is very active in Democratic Politics. She said that she doesn't believe that JM and BO are tied but that Obama is actually ahead. She said that the Democratic Party has reportedly registered as many as 200,000 new Democrats. And that many are young and only have cells phones so they are not polled. I can't prove this is true but like I said she is active and spends time daily working for Obamas campaign and for other Democrats in NC.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...e_NC_92168.pdf

Concern over economy pushes Obama into NC tie

Raleigh, N.C. – With concern over the economy at an all time high, Barack Obama has
pulled into a tie with John McCain in North Carolina for the first time in a Public Policy
Polling survey. Each candidate has 46%, with Libertarian Bob Barr picking up 5%.
There isn’t much doubt what’s driving this increased level of competitiveness. The
numbers of voters in the state listing the economy as their biggest issue has hovered
around 50% for most of the year but with the increased turmoil in the last week that
number has now jumped to 58%. Barack Obama has a 24 point lead with those voters.
“The more voters are concerned about the economy instead of things like immigration,
taxes, and social issues the better Democrats are going to do in North Carolina,” said
Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “That’s the direction the election is
headed right now and if it remains on that course the state is going to be extremely
competitive.”
National polls have shown Barack Obama gaining anywhere from 3 to 9 points in the last
week so this 4 point shift in Obama’s direction since last week in North Carolina fits into
that framework.
In the state’s Senate race, Kay Hagan is out to her biggest lead yet. She now leads 46-41
over Elizabeth Dole. The economy is driving her success as well. She has a 57-30
among voters who state it as their top concern.


OK I did find this which seems to support what my sister said.

The Associated Press: Democrats post big gains in voter registration

Since 2006, the Democrats have added 167,000 voters in North Carolina, while the Republicans have added 36,000.

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Old 09-23-2008, 05:10 PM
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Good luck. I have been doing registration drives every night for a few weeks. This weekend I got 32 new voters to register! I have no idea who they will vote for, but getting more people involved in the process has been my goal. I can say that all my new voters are young and all put down their cell phone numbers.

I am taking Nov 4 th off from work to assist with getting people to their polling places.
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:39 PM
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I wish everyone would do what you are doing, Nightowl. It does make a difference!

So many people take for granted the right to vote. They don't bother and it is such a shame.
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:45 PM
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The state of Florida is going to interesting. According to the Orlando Sentinel "Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain in Florida by 2 percentage points in a new Mason-Dixon poll, but with a margin of error of 4 points, the survey essentially shows the race as a dead heat." Considering that at one point McCain was leading. Good for Barack.


Obama leads McCain in new Mason-Dixon poll but race is a statistical dead heat -- OrlandoSentinel.com
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:47 PM
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Sheesh, the latest poll has Obama leading in Virginia!

Maybe this country is finally taking off its blinders!
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:02 PM
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I'm all for voter registration and helping get people to the polls. I am worried about voter fraud though. what happened here in Washington in the last gubernatorial race was disgusting! Sorry, I don't have a better word for it.

I'm not sure which polls you guys are talking about, except the PPP one for NC.

I like to look at these. . .they use various averages I believe:

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News

Pollster.com - Political Poll Trends, Charts and Analysis

I think the pollster one is the best. They do show FL and NC as toss ups now. . .with McCain still slightly ahead. I think it's interesting that Obama seems to be losing support in my state, Washington. I was suprised to see it light blue.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:57 PM
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I'd like to think that both parties could embrace the following:

(1) the more people who vote the better;

(2) the more people who vote on issues, instead of canned rhetoric the better;

(3) the fewer issues of voter fraud, the better;

(4) the fewer issues that arise about confusing ballots or persons being denied the vote, or from being deterred from voting, the better;

(5) the lower the need for getting courts involved, the better;

(6) the lower the reasons for either party to complain that their voters were disenfranchised, the better.

I'm driving persons to the polls. It is through a non-partisan group that helps get out the elderly. I don't know how the people who I am driving vote. But they should be given the right to vote. If any party tries to interfere with this effort because they don't like how they think the demographics are shaping up, I'll be pissed.

I have no problems with the parties making arrangements to drive people who they think will vote their way. Just don't get in the way of us who are trying to make it easier to get people to vote, period.

As far as the polling data, I don't know about it generally. I've read so much about how my state is a battle ground in so many races, and it really hasn't been. Maybe it will be this year, but I don't know.

Here is what I'm seeing anecdotally. I'm see a lot of Obama signs, a lot of signs for the Democratic candidate for Senate, some signs for the local Democratic candidates for Representative or local races. Some signs for nonpartisan races.

And one McCain/Palin sign. I looked for this specifically driving to work this morning. I drive about 2 miles through residential communities to get to the freeway. And I looked for McCain signs and for signs supporting the Republican candidates.

And they just weren't there. Except that one.

I'm not willing to conclude whether that is meaningful at this point. Maybe there are problems getting hands on signs for the Republicans. I also live in a very Blue area.

But this isn't usual. I've lived in this community for 18 years, and I've never seen so few signs for the opposing party this close to the election. My guess is that the families who are reliably Republican in the past will vote Republican this time. They just aren't enthused enough about the McCain/Palin ticket to put a sign up.

This might be meaningless. I find it more meaningful that some of the polls out there though.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:11 AM
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Sheesh, the latest poll has Obama leading in Virginia!

Maybe this country is finally taking off its blinders!
I'll take credit for Virginia.

I moved here from Chicago and now my Illinois vote can count here
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:28 AM
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I'll take credit for Virginia.

I moved here from Chicago and now my Illinois vote can count here
Not so quick to say Obama is leading Virginia. This is from this morning (the 24th) from the NBC/Mason-Dixon Poll, shows McCain ahead of Obama.

Morning Report | The RCP Blog Home Page | Only in America »
September 24, 2008
VA Poll: McCain +3
Posted by TOM BEVAN | E-Mail This | Permalink | Email Author
New poll from NBC/Mason-Dixon in Virginia (September 17-22, MoE +/-4.0%) showing John McCain with a small 3-point lead over Barack Obama:

McCain 47
Obama 44

McCain leads by 0.8% in the updated RCP Average for Virginia.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:28 PM
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Not so quick to say Obama is leading Virginia. This is from this morning (the 24th) from the NBC/Mason-Dixon Poll, shows McCain ahead of Obama.

Morning Report | The RCP Blog Home Page | Only in America »
September 24, 2008
VA Poll: McCain +3
Posted by TOM BEVAN | E-Mail This | Permalink | Email Author
New poll from NBC/Mason-Dixon in Virginia (September 17-22, MoE +/-4.0%) showing John McCain with a small 3-point lead over Barack Obama:

McCain 47
Obama 44

McCain leads by 0.8% in the updated RCP Average for Virginia.

The whole idea of my post was a feel good post and I think for everyone else it worked. Well at least most choose positive comments even those who don't hold my views. I was excited at the possibility that my vote might actually mean something for a change. After all, NC has not gone Democratic since 1976. And Virginia, like, NC, is really a toss up since even in the poll you cited the margin of error is +/- 4% .
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:33 PM
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The Democratic candidate for senator, Mark Warner, has a 30 point lead over the Republican candidate, Jim Gilmore. Mark is incredibly popular and I suspect he'll have upticket coattails for Obama.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:33 PM
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When someone from my state of Virginia makes the remark that finally maybe the blinders are being removed -- well, I don't consider that part of a 'feel good' post.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:43 PM
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Don't you know how to ignore remarks like that. I read remarks about my candidate all the time that I don't like but only feel I need to respond where I can actually add something to the conversation. Relax and don't be so uptight about every little remark. You have been on here long enough to have learned to ignore remarks you don't agree with that have nothing to do with the issues. It took me exactly 1 nasty post to realize that this board means very little in the whole scheme of things. And it is not worth expending so much effort on the negatives.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:59 PM
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Don't you know how to ignore remarks like that. I read remarks about my candidate all the time that I don't like but only feel I need to respond where I can actually add something to the conversation. Relax and don't be so uptight about every little remark. You have been on here long enough to have learned to ignore remarks you don't agree with that have nothing to do with the issues. It took me exactly 1 nasty post to realize that this board means very little in the whole scheme of things. And it is not worth expending so much effort on the negatives.
Sure I know how to ignore remarks. I've certainly been on here long enough to know, too, when someone is making a catty remark. Why would my little post bother you so much? As far as negativity, hope you remember what you just said when you post on another thread.
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