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Old 09-24-2008, 01:05 AM
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Smear video against Obama from McCain campaign

No need for astroturfing from McCain’s supporters…he’ll roll in the mud himself!


"Guilt and Associations September 23, 2008
McCain once again tries to tar Obama with the controversies of others.

Summary
A McCain-Palin ad says that Obama was "born of the corrupt Chicago political machine" and implies that the candidate himself is corrupt by association with four local political figures. But the ad's implication and many of its supporting details are false. In fact, this is a particularly egregious example of ricochet sliming:
• William Daley, the first figure mentioned in the ad, is indeed related to the other famous Chicago Daleys, but he's never been accused of any wrongdoing. And the former commerce secretary isn't Obama's only economic adviser, as the ad implies.
• Emil Jones, Illinois state Senate leader, may indeed have been Obama's "political godfather." But he, too, hasn't been charged with or even seriously accused of misdeeds despite the ad's claim of an "ethical cloud."
• Obama did have a past relationship with real estate developer Tony Rezko, but he is no longer Obama's "money man." Obama hasn't been associated with him since his indictment for wire fraud, bribery, money laundering and attempted extortion, and Obama donated all of the disgraced businessman's previous campaign contributions to charity.
• Rod Blagojevich has been touched by plenty of scandal but his relationship with Obama doesn't extend much beyond being "his governor." In fact, Obama has worked on ethics legislation triggered by some of the Blagojevich's questionable moves.
Most important, the ad offers no evidence of wrongdoing by Obama himself in connection with any of these relationships, however close or distant."
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:08 AM
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And Obama sent out spanish ads saying how McCain is against illegals, sorry, but that was the republicans biggest beef with McCain..his support for illegals!
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:57 AM
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Yep and another one:

Scaring Seniors
An Obama-Biden ad says McCain supports "cutting benefits in half" for Social Security recipients. False

A new Obama ad characterizes the "Bush-McCain privatization plan" as "cutting Social Security Benefits in half." This is a falsehood sure to frighten seniors who rely on their Social Security checks. In truth, McCain does not propose to cut those checks at all.


FactCheck.org: Scaring Seniors
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:02 AM
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And Obama sent out spanish ads saying how McCain is against illegals, sorry, but that was the republicans biggest beef with McCain..his support for illegals!
Got that right!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/us...hA&oref=slogin

Obama Is Stoking Racial Antagonism - WSJ.com

PolitiFact | Limbaugh's not a McCain spokesman
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:29 AM
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I expect attack ads from both side about issues that’s a given. What sets the “Chicago Political Machine” ad apart is that McCain is attacking Obama’s character. Blatantly false personal attacks are about as low as it gets…but I’m sure McCain will find a way to go even lower.

If you’d just like to list a list of attack ads here’s a few more from the last few days….

NRA Misfires against Obama
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"Last week Senator Obama's running mate said, get this, 'Raising taxes is patriotic.' "
PolitiFact | He said it was patriotic to pay higher taxes Barely true

Yes, and outlaw apple pie as well
PolitiFact | Yes, and outlaw apple pie as well Lair, Lair, Pants on Fire

Fuzzy stand in '96 does not amount to a plan
PolitiFact | Fuzzy stand in '96 does not amount to a plan False

Turning the tables on Obama
PolitiFact | Turning the tables on Obama Barely True

FactCheck.org: NRA Targets Obama False

FactCheck.org: There He Goes Again False

Biden’s “Patriotic Act
Biden’s “Patriotic Act” | The FactCheck Wire False
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:51 AM
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You know...you are right there on the same page as I am, yet not outraged one bit about all the opposition falsehoods, you don't care about truth, you only care about barry's truth.

This list is from page one, I never went to the next page.



Obama ad twists McCain's words on health care "deregulation."

FactCheck.org: Out of Context on Health Care

An Obama-Biden ad says McCain supports "cutting benefits in half" for Social Security recipients. False!

FactCheck.org: Scaring Seniors

A Spanish-language ad from Obama calls McCain a friend of Rush Limbaugh and says Limbaugh called Mexicans "stupid." A McCain ad in Spanish misrepresents Obama's role on immigration legislation

FactCheck.org: Sparring in Spanish

He tells Social Security recipients their money would now be in the stock market under McCain's plan. False.
FactCheck.org: Obama's Social Security Whopper

Obama's running mate gives a twist to McCain's words while stumping in Michigan

FactCheck.org: Stretching with Biden

Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods.
FactCheck.org: Corsi's Dull Hatchet

An Obama ad plays fast and loose with McCain's voting record on education and proposals as a presidential candidate.
FactCheck.org: School Funding Misleads
 

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