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Old 09-24-2008, 07:22 AM
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25 Million Dollar Road to Nowhere Opens

Thanks for spending my money so wisely, Palin!



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JUNEAU, Alaska - Alaska now has a Road to Nowhere going to what would have been the Bridge to Nowhere.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's transportation department has completed a $25 million gravel road leading to the site of a bridge that Palin, as John McCain's vice presidential candidate, now boasts that she stopped, so as to save taxpayers money. The road was built with federal tax dollars.

Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein said the 3.2-mile road will be useful for road races, hunters and possibly future development. But with no bridge to serve it, that's probably about it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:44 AM
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Don't blame Sarah. They made her do it. Poor helpless little dear. Besides that, they interviewed a local citizen who thinks they should put in a picnic table or two at the end of it. So all is not wasted. They might try turning it into a tourist attraction too. Put up some Porta Potties, kiosks selling locally made items, and of course a snack bar.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:59 AM
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I'm sure Palin could tell us why it's a great thing if only those meanies in the McCain camp would let her talk to the press. Poor Palin, isolated and unable to explain it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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You forgot this part:

Alaska received about half the bridge money anyway, on condition it be used for other things. Palin's predecessor and the Legislature redirected all but $60 million in 2006 to other projects, and Palin has left the remainder untouched, to be used eventually to improve access to the island, her spokeswoman has said.

The airport is separated from its users by a quarter-mile-wide channel of water, forcing travelers to catch either a ferry or a water taxi for a 15-minute ride. Ketchikan, seven blocks wide and eight miles long, is Alaska's entry port for northbound cruise ships that bring more than 1 million visitors yearly.


Yeah! Shame on those people in Alaska for wanting roads. . .
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:37 PM
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The sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Which is about as responsible to your post and yours was to mine. A road to nowhere leads . . . nowhere.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:46 PM
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The sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Which is about as responsible to your post and yours was to mine. A road to nowhere leads . . . nowhere.
Well let me expalin it then.

They didn't have enough money to make building the bridge fisacally responsible. They would still like to have a bridge someday that actually connects and airport to Ketchikan, where 1 million tourists vist a year. So they build the road now, while they have the money for it, and hopefully get the bridge sometime in the future. Also opening up the area near the airport for future development.

We have train platforms without trains here in Washington. . .because they needed to build them first and the money isn't available to do the whole project in one whole swoop.

Get it?
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:53 PM
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Some of the democrats on this board are really getting desperate, aren't they?

They can't say anything good about Obama but sure can dig dirt on McCain and Palin, and they can't even get that right. They have to resort to telling lies. And then when you do answer them with a legitimate answer, it's never enough!
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:53 PM
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I get it just fine.

Palin's a liar and loves to wallow in that earmark money. She squandered millions of taxpayer dollars.

I get it just fine.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:56 PM
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I get it just fine.

You get nothing. You understand absolutely nothing but what you want to see and hear.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:07 PM
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I get it just fine.

Palin's a liar and loves to wallow in that earmark money. She squandered millions of taxpayer dollars.

I get it just fine.
MMMMMmmmmmm. .. Kool-Aid!!!
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:11 PM
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No, I don't care for any. You keep drinking it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:52 PM
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You forgot this part:

Alaska received about half the bridge money anyway, on condition it be used for other things. Palin's predecessor and the Legislature redirected all but $60 million in 2006 to other projects, and Palin has left the remainder untouched, to be used eventually to improve access to the island, her spokeswoman has said.

The airport is separated from its users by a quarter-mile-wide channel of water, forcing travelers to catch either a ferry or a water taxi for a 15-minute ride. Ketchikan, seven blocks wide and eight miles long, is Alaska's entry port for northbound cruise ships that bring more than 1 million visitors yearly.


Yeah! Shame on those people in Alaska for wanting roads. . .
This brings to mind another question. Who originally decided to put the airport on an island that would require ferry travel to access it? It might have been cheaper to rebuild the airport on the other side of the river.

And it seems that since they are refunding, what is it, about 2000 dollars to their citizens this year alone, why can't they pay for their own roads and bridges?
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:05 PM
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This brings to mind another question. Who originally decided to put the airport on an island that would require ferry travel to access it? It might have been cheaper to rebuild the airport on the other side of the river.

And it seems that since they are refunding, what is it, about 2000 dollars to their citizens this year alone, why can't they pay for their own roads and bridges?
I have no idea who built the airport there or why.

As to the question of the refund. . .why don't you ask Senator Obama, since he voted for the earmark TWICE?
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:24 PM
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:48 PM
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I have no idea who built the airport there or why.

As to the question of the refund. . .why don't you ask Senator Obama, since he voted for the earmark TWICE?
This story is making headlines today on CNN website

Biden, Obama helped keep 'Bridge to Nowhere' alive - CNN.com

"Although Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden routinely mocks his Republican counterpart, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for her onetime support of the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere," Biden and his running mate voted to keep the project alive twice.

Both Biden and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voted to kill a Senate amendment that would have diverted federal funding for the bridge to repair a Louisiana span badly damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Senate records show.

And both voted for the final transportation bill that included the $223 million earmark for the Alaska project."

... "That is probably the most disturbing element of this and the campaigning on the Bridge to Nowhere," said Bill Allison of the Sunlight Foundation, a taxpayer watchdog group. "Because, yes, they had a chance to vote specifically against the Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska to redirect the money to people, to bridges and infrastructure damaged by Hurricane Katrina going in to New Orleans, and they chose not to."
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Wallow, wallow, wallow.

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Old 09-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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I have no idea who built the airport there or why.

As to the question of the refund. . .why don't you ask Senator Obama, since he voted for the earmark TWICE?
The refund has nothing to do with the earmarks, nor how many times Obama voted for anything. It has to do with the fact that every Alaskan is evidently getting between 2000 and possibly up to 3200 dollars, this year alone, due to the windfall taxes on higher oil prices this last year. The state is reported to have received 16 billion from the oil companies this year. It seems to me that they can build their own roads and bridges and have money left over. Heck they can even follow my other suggestion and move that airport which seems to have been built on the wrong side of the river.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:38 PM
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Wallow, wallow, wallow.
How is that wallowing? Just the truth. You want to address that? Or just stay held up in your house of illusion drinking Kool-Aid?

You don't like pork? Check out this sight:

Citizens Against Government Waste: porkerofthemonth

Oh yeah, check out the Senate ratings(the percentage of times the Senator has voted against pork) for 2007 and for lifetime:

Arizona McCain (R) 100% 88%

Illinois Obama (D) 10% 18%

Delaware Biden (D) 0% 22%
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:46 PM
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The refund has nothing to do with the earmarks, nor how many times Obama voted for anything. It has to do with the fact that every Alaskan is evidently getting between 2000 and possibly up to 3200 dollars, this year alone, due to the windfall taxes on higher oil prices this last year. The state is reported to have received 16 billion from the oil companies this year. It seems to me that they can build their own roads and bridges and have money left over. Heck they can even follow my other suggestion and move that airport which seems to have been built on the wrong side of the river.
Then why did Obama and Biden vote to give them the money? Like I said ask them.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:49 PM
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How is that wallowing? Just the truth. You want to address that? Or just stay held up in your house of illusion drinking Kool-Aid?

You don't like pork? Check out this sight:

Citizens Against Government Waste: porkerofthemonth

Oh yeah, check out the Senate ratings(the percentage of times the Senator has voted against pork) for 2007 and for lifetime:

Arizona McCain (R) 100% 88%

Illinois Obama (D) 10% 18%

Delaware Biden (D) 0% 22%

Those are some facsinating figures! Very telling!
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Interesting link to the "timeline" to the road/brige to nowhere.

Yep, Democrats hand a hand in the "wasting of taxpayer money"


‘Bridge to nowhere’ chronology - Marcus Stern - Politico.com

"June 9, 1998: President Bill Clinton signs into law the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century authorizing road and bridge projects from 1998 through 2003. It includes $20.4 million for environmental and engineering studies for the Gravina Island Bridge."
 

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