McCain seeks to delay debate - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

President Bush is suppose to address the nation tonight at 9:00 pm ET

Trying to use all the scare tactics to get this bail-out pushed fast.

I think you're right, forrestlayne.

The University of Mississippi says the debates are still going on, and Obama is having a news conference now saying that the debates should go on, too.

I think it's very odd that McCain is trying to postpone them.

MSNBC is so pro-Obama, that they deliberately left out a few things to slant their article. Here's a slightly more balanced article from the also left leaning AOL, but not as filled with only pro-Obama quotes by other Democrats. AOL did pepper their article with their personal views and report them as absolute fact, though. AOL is as incapable of objective reporting as MSNBC.

McCain Halts Campaign Due to Economy

The Obama campaign said in a statement that Obama had called McCain around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday to propose that they issue a joint statement in support of a package to help fix the economy as soon as possible. McCain called back six hours later and agreed to the idea of the statement, the Obama campaign said. McCain's statement was issued to the media a few minutes later.

"We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved," McCain said. "I am confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people. All we must do to achieve this is temporarily set politics aside, and I am committed to doing so."

McCain's statement was an effort to show leadership on an issue that has spread economic fears across the country and overshadowed the presidential campaign just six weeks from Election Day. The economy has not been McCain's strongest suit, and his move was an attempt to turn it into an opportunity to show he's the candidate of bipartisanship and action. Recent polls showed Obama with an advantage with voters in handling the economy.

The move put Obama in a bind. Rejecting the idea would allow McCain alone to appear above politics, but agreeing to suspend campaigning and the debate could make Obama look like he's following McCain's lead.

I swore I read this morning that they both agreed to a postponement.

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Thank you. . .that's what I remember from this morning.

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That was all reported on MSNBC this afternoon after McCain made his pronouncement.

The subject of Friday's debate is foreign policy not the economy. IMO, it would be perfectly reasonable to do as Senator Obama suggested in his initial call to Senator McCain and issue a joint statement on the economy. I'm thinking Senator McCain can't/won't handle both issues at the same time which is surprising since he is supposedly the expert on foreign policy. To paraphrase what Senator Obama said in his statement "a President should be able to handle more then one issue at a time."

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Can you spell "stunt"? Is McCain that incapable of dealing with two issues at once? Why the sudden interest in leadership now? Why not yesterday? The day before? Last week?

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Exactly. He is worried. The American people are tired of the Republican party. We are worst off than we ever have been . He has to think of some damage control after Sarah made this statement, " We are heading for another Great Depression if Congress doesn't act on the financial crisis" Rigth now he is thinking of something to say.









Palin: US could face another Great Depression - Yahoo! News

Agreed. It looks like it's already backfiring and being denounced as a a cheap political trick.

And his behavior, waiting six hours after Obama called him privately to pull this stunt, is not demonstrating leadership, but politics as usual. He should be ashamed of himself -- but he won't be. McCain no longer knows the meaning of shame.

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Totally agree.

I can see this country is in trouble every day at work. I work in retail, the store and mall where I work is empty. People are not spending money and have not been spending money for a while now. When the ecomony is good money is spent when it is bad no one spends. Right now like every on else , no raise this year, health care costs are going up and coverage is going down, my hours are being cut. We need to do something to jump start this ecomony.

This is just funny:

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Guess those elite fundraisers are more important to John McCain!

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It all becomes clear now -- it's all a stunt to keep Palin hidden a bit longer! What a jerk, as if the American people can't see right through him.

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Cowards, both of them. Just complete cowards.

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Agree totally. Even The first lady Laura Bush said Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lacks sufficient foreign policy experience but according to the first lady is a very quick study. So she knows nothing about foreign policies, but is studying them.



Laura Bush: Palin lacks foreign policy experience - Yahoo! News

I think we forgot this part:

The move put Obama in a bind. Rejecting the idea would allow McCain alone to appear above politics, but agreeing to suspend campaigning and the debate could make Obama look like he's following McCain's lead.

I agree. . .Obama should stick to what he's good at. . . .telling people what he's going to do instead of actually doing anything.

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Looking at John McCains life I'm sure he's just terrified to dabate Obama.
That's definitely scarier than 5 years in a POW camp!!

Check this poll out on MSNBC.

Agree or Disagree: Friday's presidential debate should be postponed so the candidates can focus on the economy
69.4%Strongly Disagree89,862 votes


Newsvine - Agree or Disagree: Friday's presidential debate should be postponed so the candidates can focus on the economy

But it's msnbc, that is as impartial as DU is.

My first thought was..Obama to advisors, "dammit, why didn't you think of this first?!"

Exactly. . .and if they did it would be, "Obama is sooo great. Look at him putting the country above the campaign."

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TO me is shows that America want this debates to go on. Discuss the number issue in this country right now, the ecomony and tell us what both of their plans to fix it are.

Why don't you tell us what Obama's plan is. You can't because he doesn't have one.

Watch the debate and you will find out. Oh wait there might not be one cause Mccain is running scared.

Obama dodged the town halls. . .he's had plenty of opportunity to tell us his plan.

Btw. . .that was REALLY hard to read.

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They are being POSTPONED, not cancelled. If you think a debate is more important than the bail out issue..well...then I have nothing further to say..


Priorities people, priorities!

Remember, he's not cancelling the debate. He just wants to postpone it. And why won't OBama do town hall meetings anyway?

I do think President Bush, Paulson,and Bernanke are trying to scare Congress and the American people to accepting this usconstitution bailout.

Actually most of the resistance is coming from the conservative Republicans.

But I do think it is most important that all members of Congress be in Washington to hear the debates going on with Bernanke and Paulson. They need to be there to protect the taxpayer and the constitution.

I heard that part of the pressing issue is Congress is scheduled to leave soon, they want this done before then or they will need to stay until it is settled.

No, McCain is not running scared -- he is in Washington. He feels our economy is more important than the mudslinging. McCain has even pulled his campaign ads until this bailout is resolved. As another poster said, Obama is probably upset and saying "why didn't I think of this first!" Yes, he would have been the poster boy for America and the media would have been falling all over this as his sacrific for his country -- putting country before the campaign. But McCain is the one who did it and, of course, the media is all over him giving him backlash for it.

And who says the media isn't biased??

Now that Obama has agreed to go, is that a stunt too?

President Bush ordered hinm to be in Wahsington, DC for this.

I don't think McCain is running away from this debate. It will focus of foreign policy, which is a strong suit for him. He will do just fine Friday.

Personally, I see this as a way to draw attention away from what could be perceived as particularly bad week for McCain; Palin world leader meeting network coverage issue, the Rick Davis/FannieMae/Freddie Mac story, sinking poll numbers, etc. IMO, McCain wants to divert attention elsewhere, and it's obviously working.

I think the debate will go on as scheduled. I heard it would be too costly to cancel; to the tune of $5 million.

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Ordered??? He was invited and Obama accepted the invitation.


BREAKING NEWS: Obama Accepts Bush Invitation To Meet In Washington - News Story - WNBC | New York

I agree I don't think he's running. . .but I can't say he is diverting either. This bail-out is a huge deal! I post on another board and there are PhD's in Econ that post there that are making this sound pretty scary. I honestly don't understand it all. . .but I'm trying.

Not replying to you, AMulquin, but to others that posted earlier, how would postponing benefit McCain? It's a foreign policy debate. . .he should do very well.

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What a joke -- Like anyone really needs Senator "Economics isn't my strong suit" McCain anywhere near the decision makers .............. So Funny. Props for a slimy political ploy, but I can't imagine his antics are going to have the desired affects. IM biasaed opinion, Senator Obama yet again displays leadership and not gamesmanship. But, in the end, lies and games may win again.

How many more days to Nov 4 ????

buwahahaha

Bwhahahahahha. . . right back at you!

Why don't you tell me how it benefits him??

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"McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.

In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, "


CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate « - Blogs from CNN.com

Buwahahaha. Like we didn't see THIS one a mile away ............. funny stuff again.

There is an axiom -"Delay, Delay, Delay." It is common in the tax and criminal law world, but it is quite appropriate in Senator McCain's current situation as well.

Bwhahahaha. . yeah and I'm sure this whole little Fannie Freddie bailout thing that could have global consequences was planned MONTHS in advance just so they could postpone Palins debate with Biden! Seriously! Do you have any idea how ludicris that sounds?!

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Yeah, because the entire collapse of a global financial market was planned just so McCain could delay the debate. . .

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Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I worked with a guy once we called "mighty mouse." Pretty funny actually. He liked to think he was a leader. He would jump ahead and talk loudly. He as much as stamped his feet and said so. It was saddly funny.

Remember Mighty Mouse -- Mighty Mouse Theme Song

No. It is exactly because we really need these debates to see who "we" want to lead our country during the next few years that are sure to need a leader, not a grand stander trying to wave his hands frantically saying "Look at me. Look at meeeeeeeee" We also need to have someone who can actually think to do two or more things at once.

Bush asked them to both return to DC to save his silly ass from any more ridicule than has already ensued in the few hours we had to digest it.

Honestly, do you really think the people about to experience a killer hurricane needed him and Gov. Palin there in their rain coats with secret security and television cameras? NO NO, and NO ....

Senator "Economics is not my strong suit" McCain has little if anything to add to the discussion that he can't do and then fly to have a 90 minute debate.

Of course he is "suspending his campaign." Lets suspend the campaign and the debates .... buwahahaha .... Yup, Yup. You Betcha.

Maybe you should venture into the bailout thread. . .oh wait. . . you did, but you seem to think this won't effect anybody who isn't banking on real estate money or in sensitive markets . .now THAT is funny. . .good luck with that.

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Yep. . .and we will still get these debates. And if you think we "need" these debates to determine who we want to lead than you are under some kind of illusion that most voters haven't already made up their minds. I would rather have somebody interested in doing their job. . .you know. . .representing their constituents. . .than worrying about post-poning a debate.

And the "grandstand" comment. . . do we even really need to go there???

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I believe you misunderstood whatever it was I said that brought out that snarky comment. Everyone is going to be affected. But, things will eventually return for most investments. My heart goes out to people who are invested and will need to get a return on the investment soon.- selling a home that has greatly devalued or stocks in sensitve markets such as banking (if they are even worth anything now). We were starting to transfer to less sensitive investments a while ago and we won't look at our 401K for a long time, so we have not been nearly as affected as many will be.

I am sorry you find the misfortune many are going to experience funny..

I said that you're thinking that this doesn't affect ALL of us is what's funny. And I think you have been implying that this isn't serious enough to suspend campaigning for a few days. This should be Obama's and McCain's sole focus for the next few days. One of these unfortunate guys is going to inherit this mess and to imply that they shouldn't be THAT involved in how it starts to get worked out is silly. They should focus on a national debate too? And for what? So Palin's debate doesn't get pushed back a few days or another week? Will that really give her some HUGE advantage?

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Why not let the VP's debate this week? If Sarah is capable to being VP like all of you claim she is, then tthis should not be any problem for her.

Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee-I believe that would be Obama in Berlin.
McCain wants to WORK during this crisis. THAT shows leadership.

That would be perfectly fine with me. The only thing I don't know is how involved Biden might have to be in the bailout as well.

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Obama came back to Washington a few months ago to vote on an issue and was commended by Harry Reid for doing so because it showed that he was putting his job he was elected to do before his politics.
However, when we have the most important issue brewing in U.S. history (Warren Buffet is calling it an economic Pearl Harbor), Harry Reid says McCain is coming to Washington for 'political' reasons only.

Here's what Harry Reid said about Obama coming and McCain not coming to Washington just a few months ago:

With Reid's statement from July, when Obama showed up for a vote but not McCain (quoted in The Washington Post):

"I should mention how glad my fellow Democrats and I were to have our nominee for president here to vote on these important bills. Senator Obama has come to work and taken tough stands. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Senator McCain," Reid said. "Perhaps taking tough stands on important issues is not part of Senator McCain's campaign strategy. Perhaps he's just too busy on the campaign trail to do his day job."

Perhaps this should be said of Obama, Mr. Reid??

?????

From what I understand, since neither Sen. McCain nor Sen. Obama are on the committees that are trying to come to an agreement, they will not really be anything for them to do while the committees are meeting behind closed doors. Everyone seems to agree that the meeting today with Pres. Bush is basically a photo op (McCain called him to ask him to call a meeting) and there will be no (or little) business happening. So unless they need the Senators to be there to get the vote passed tomorrow night, then there is really no valid reason to postpone the debates. From what I understand, they have the support of the majority of both the House (maybe just barely for the House) and the Senate so I say debate debate debate. And if the 3 are needed then the actual vote can be scheduled around the debate. This has been done before on other issues and a few hours or a day makes no difference. This is according to people like Warren Buffet and T. Boone Pickens. Sorry no links but I watched Pickens on CNN this morning and he said this is the right thing to do but intimated that as long as an agreement is reached within a few days, there is no reason to panic. And have also heard that Warren Buffet feels the same way. These are 2 guys who know as much as or more than any so called government experts.

Thread closed, over 50 posts..........

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