I think it's incredibly hypocritical of Democrats to mock Palin when Obama and Biden have their own responsibility for the Bridge to Nowhere.

Biden, Obama helped keep 'Bridge to Nowhere' alive - CNN.com

This year, Delaware has requested 116 congressional earmarks through Biden, its longtime senator, at a cost to taxpayers of $342 million. In an appearance on CNN's "American Morning" with anchor John Roberts, Biden said that he had been open about those requests and that they all can be justified.

ROFL! I can't wait to hear Biden's 'justification' for 116 earmarks, especially the $1 million one for renovation of an opera house in Wilmington. Wilmington opera lovers should be raising the money themselves if they want inflated renovations, not using federal funds from the poor and middle class across America who can't afford to even go to the opera in their own cities! This kind of garbage is why the poor and middle class have trouble making ends meet; they're forced to pay for other people's luxuries, thanks to politicians like Biden.

Biden is personally responsible for requesting $342 million dollars in earmarks in one year alone! I think it takes an amazing amount of gall for Biden to criticize Palin's spending when she's thrifty compared to him!

You know, I don't disagree that opera lovers should renovate their own opera house.

Just as soon as Alaskans pay for their own roads to nowhere. Seems fair.

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So opera houses and roads are equivalent to you? How often do you go to the opera? How often do you drive on roads. . .ones I'm sure that were paid for with federal funds? What makes you more entitled to roads than Alaskans?

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Yeah but she built the road to nowhere.

The "Road To Nowhere" is a 3 mile long stretch of road leading to where the bridge would have been had Congress not killed funding for it in 2005. The price tag for the road? $26 million dollars. And nobody uses it.

One difference is that you are entitled to use Alaska's roads paid with federal funds. You can't even get into Wilmington's opera house unless you buy an expensive ticket. Even ignoring the fact that most of us will never travel to Delaware to see their opera, we can't get in if we do unless we pay an exorbitant ticket fee.

Most importantly, the opera house is only one of the 116, $342 million partisan earmarks by Biden in one year alone!

Uh. . .I'm pretty sure she didn't build it.

I understand what you are saying. . .but SHE didn't do it. . .it was approved by the Alaskan legislature.

I never saw anywhere that it won't be ever used.

Roads are EXPENSIVE! They are improving a 5 mile strip of I-90 in Washington. . .the cost? $545 million

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She support the road to nowhere. It was built while she was in office. it leads to the so called bridge to nowhere.So if she said thanks but no thanks for the bridge to where like she claims, why did she let them build the road to nowhere.

From what I heard last night, by the time Palin was in office, there was a signed contract for the road to be built. She didn't have a choice.

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What a total waste of money. You all can defend this forever and it's still going to be a total waste of money.

Here what I found on the road to no where. I posted the link.

A host of injunctions have stopped it, but only partially. Without Sarah Palin's veto, the road will go through. Here's your chance Palin.



411mania.com: Politics - Bridge to Nowhere, meet the Road to Nowhere

By the way the bridge to nowhere is still alive and well. Here is the link.


In other words, Palin's administration has actually said "thanks" to congressional spending for the project and is now figuring out how to avoid "building it ourselves.")


'Bridge To Nowhere' Project Moving Forward, With Palin's Consent

Read the article. This is a completely different road than the one we're talking about.

Please address the fact that both Obama and Biden approved this earmark.

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Yes. . .thank you Senator Obama and Senator Biden.

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'Bridge To Nowhere' Project Moving Forward, With Palin's Consent.


Thank you Sarah Palin for not vetoing a project that you have.

This is all really simple, and the Huffington Post article certainly doesn't say anything that makes me think less of Palin.

Alaska has a tourist trap and an airport in a tourist trap area. The level of ferry service to the island isn't all that great considering the fact that it gets a million visitors each year, and so the previous administration asked the federal government for funds to help make it more convenient for people to get back and forth by building a $200,000,000 bridge, which would benefit Alaska's economy. It was going to take a new road to attach the bridge from the mainland to the island, and they also asked for money to do that.

Those monies are available to whichever entity can best bend the ear of a congressman with clout. Apparently Alaska's congressman was so good at it that he even got Biden and Obama to sign on to give Alaska that money! McCain, however, did not. Palin wasn't governor at the time all of that wheeling and dealing was going on, but she knew that if her state could get a free bridge that was going to help the state's tourism that of course shew as for it. Who wouldn't be? Everybody is competing for those dollars and somebody is going to get them - might as well be Alaska!

So Alaska got the money, but by the time congress gave it a thumbs up, costs had risen and it was going to cost $400M to build the bridge, not $200M. They had also been given money to build the road leading up to the bridge, and a contract was signed with a road building company before Palin took office.

She became governor and was onboard with the road to the beach being built as planned. But when it came time to sign on the dotted line to pay for the bridge, she said, "Whoa - hold on. The bridge will now cost $400M and they're only giving us $200M? Hey, when it wasn't going to come out of Alaska's budget it was worth it, but if we have to foot half the bill, it's not worth it to us. Some gifts are better *not* to receive! Thanks but no thanks, but we don't want your money for that bridge. If, however, you will let us use it for another transportation project, I'm sure we can put it to good use. We just don't want that bridge badly enough to spend $200M of Alaska's money on it."

And the feds said, "Okay - use it on something different."

And so now they're trying to figure out a cheaper alternative to do essentially the same thing that bridge was going to do. A ferry? A different, smaller bridge? Palin has given her stamp of approval for a study to try to figure out a better, cheaper alternative, and in fact that "Road to Nowhere" could very well become the "Road to the Ferry".

As the governor of her state, the responsible thing to do on behalf of her state was to get whatever funds she could and use them to their maximum capacity with as little a financial consequence to the state of Alaska as possible. It's her duty! And the duty of the congressmen from her state is to try to balance the wishes and wants of that state with the overall needs of the United States.... just as all of our congressmen and congresswomen do.

It's really not that hard to understand.

Huh? If you are referring to the Juneau road?:

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Currently, the only surface transportation to and from Juneau is provided by ferry and barge service. The State of Alaska identified a need to improve surface transportation by constructing a 50-mile road out of Juneau to Lynn Canal communities to connect to the rest of the state and continental road system. State decision makers see that demand on the state ferry system exceeds capacity during the summer months and costs for ferry users are high. They view access to the state capitol, government, medical services, employment, education, and economic opportunity, for citizens and legislators along with resource development as limited by the current ferry and barge service
Juneau Access Road

Hmmmm. . .sounds like a real unreasonalbe project considering it would link the state capitol to the rest of the state seeing as the ferry system is not meeting that demand and is expensive.

Please tell us how you feel about Obama and Biden's records on pork?

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"Really it's called the Juneau Access Road project, or the Lynne Canal Road. It is a proposed road through what is now wilderness meant to link Juneau, the capital of Alaska, with the national highway system beginning in the town of Skagway. The problem is that plan proved unfeasible.The new plan calls for a fifty mile road, stopping 18 miles short of Skagway at Katzehin Moreover, the road is nearly diabolically unsafe. We're talking about a one-lane, two-way highway, which must wind its way through a series of steep cliffs, along the path of approximately thirty-six active avalanche chutes. "

So if the road is stopping short of Skagway how is this going to help the people?

They don't want to answer about Obama and Biden's record on earmarks because there's no way to justify them. Plain and simple as that. They've had so many there's not enough room on these threads to justify or explain them!

The only reason the democrats keep bringing up the 'bridge and road to nowhere' is because that's the only thing linking Gov. Palin to what they consider wrongdoing. The only thing.

And no matter what you say about Obama and Biden's earmarks, they'll be just like a broken record and talk about the bridge to nowhere, the bridge to nowhere and will never ever give a legitimate answer to questions about Obama and Biden.

All they know how to say is 'prove it'. Just like children.

No the broken record would be Sarah Palin.

I killed the Bridge to Nowhere.” [Hannity & Colmes, 9/18/08]

“And that infamous Bridge to Nowhere, I did tell Congress, “Thanks, but no thanks” — if we wanted a bridge up there we were going to build it ourselves.” [Rally in Golden, CO, 9/15/08]

“I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks’ on that bridge to nowhere.” [Rally in Carson City, NV, 9/13/08]

“I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks’ for that bridge to nowhere.” [Rally in Fairfax, VA, 9/10/08]

“I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks’ for that bridge to nowhere.” [Rally in Lancaster, PA, 9/9/08]

“I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks’ for that bridge to nowhere.” [Rally in Lebanon, OH, 9/9/08]

“I told Congress thanks but no thanks for that bridge to nowhere. If the state wanted to build a bridge we would built it ourselves.” [Rally in Lee’s Summit, MO, 9/8/08]

“I championed reform of earmark spending by Congress, and I told the Congress thanks but no thanks on that ‘Bridge to Nowhere.” [Rally in Albuquerque, NM, 9/6/08]

“I told the Congress ‘thanks, but no thanks,’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.” [GOP Convention, 9/3/08]

“And as the senator said, I told the Congress thanks but no thanks for that bridge to nowhere. If our state wanted to build a bridge, we would build it ourselves.” [Rally in O’Fallon, MO, 8/31/08]

“And I championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. In fact, I told Congress — I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that bridge to nowhere.” [Nomination speech, 8/29/08]

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“She stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.” [9/8/08]

Sure. . . .ok.

Now address the earmarks that Obama and Biden scooped up.

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Exactly my point!!! They won't do it!!

When all of you adress the fact that Sarah Palin is not qualified for the VP position. And It was all a ploy by Mccain to get all the women voters.

Is that silence I hear?

WTH?



If it wasn't so damn sad, it would be hilarious!

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Why would we do that when we know she is highly qualified for the Veep position. Remember, it's Obama that is running for president and he's the one without experience. Let's go over it again --
Obama is running for president and Palin is running for vice president. Palin has experience; Obama doesn't have experience.

Oh, and you all haven't yet told us about all those earmarks of Obama and Biden.......

I think I hear silence again.

My post was inreponse to this.

mom2twins2 Quote:
Originally Posted by hambirg
Sure. . . .ok.

Now address the earmarks that Obama and Biden scooped up.

Exactly my point!!! They won't do it

You think she is qualified the rest of the country the rest of the country doesn't.

Huh?
And can you PROVE that statement? "The rest of the country"?? I think not.

Oh, and you're repeating yourself.

No you are repeating yourself. You are voting for her cause she is a mom like you and for no other reason. The fact that she lacks foreign policy experience means nothing to you.

Aren't you being a little sexist there? Saying that the only reason I'm voting for Palin is because she's a mom like me and no other reason. You ARE funny! Gee, I didn't know you knew me so well and you even think you know WHY I'm voting for her. How big of you. Sorry, dearie, you don't know me at all.

You're getting a little angry there and it's showing because you're not making any sense at all. And since when does Obama have foreign policy experience? He has none and he wants to be our next president. That's a scary thought.

???

You are assuming that people, or women for that matter, voting for McCain, are basing their vote on Palin? I was going to vote for McCain loooong before Palin came along.

But lets just take your assumption and apply it to the Obama/Biden ticket. It's the same as saying Obama nominating Biden was just to pick up the white man vote?

I think you are grasping.

Back on topic. . .address the earmarks of Obama and Biden.

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No you are. You can not take the fact that you are voting for her cause she is a mon like you. Your the one with a screen name ID'S yourself as one. The scary thought is that if elected she is one hearbeat away from being president.

Aren't you. Take away Sarah from the ticket and the ecomony being the way it is now, why are you people voting for 4 MORE YEARS OF THE SAME BS!

When all of you address the fact that Barak Obama is not qualified for the President position? And how it is all a ploy by Biden to get all the black voters.

That's basically the same thing you are saying to us and about women voters.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

You really are a hoot. Maybe you need to step away from the computer for a while.

I ask you the same thing? I don't see McCain as the same. . .he has crossed his party many times. That's why he's not that popular with the Repubs. Obama on the other hand is same old party politics.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

I LOVE how much fear this shows..keep the venom going it only help's Sarahs stance.

Misdirection, insults, and personal opinions on the candidates aside, let us note that

THE DEMOCRATS STILL WON'T ADDRESS THE BIDEN EARMARKS!

And don't forget - one of our biggest issues right now is energy. She is the governor of the most energy-rich state in the US. She served on their oil and gas oversight board and turned that sucker inside out when she found it was corrupt. As governor she made things happen in two short years that had been 'stuck in committee' for the past three governorships and now a pipeline is underway.

She put the Alaska checkbook online for all Alaskans to see - they could know exactly where every penny was being spent.

I really *don't* think she has the experience I would typically want to see in someone holding a high office. Nor does Obama. However, there are plusses to where she has been. She's an outsider without ties to the bureaucracy, so she has no loyalties to anyone. Couple that with her philosophy that you make it simple and just get things done... and the fact that she's not waltzing in at the top spot with the duty of putting together a cabinet.... and yeah, I think the McCain ticket is a very good recipe. He's got the connections to know who to put where, and she's got the clean slate and the fresh eyes.

I remember when Clinton waltzed in and seemed to appoint a fair number of Arkansans to high positions. No offense to Arkansas - it's a lovely state - but some of his high level advisers (Joslyn Elders comes to mind) certainly didn't seem astute and sophisticated.

I think Palin knows where her true north is, and that's something that impresses me greatly.

Palin's earmarks: Not just for the halibut - Ben Smith - Politico.com

Here is Palins for earmarks!!!!

Well, Junior Member grumpy247, I think we can safely rule out any Republican discussing Palin's earmarks with you until you discuss Obama's and Biden's excessive earmarks. I'm not a fan of misdirection or multiple user names. Only a fool would play your obvious game so try playing it with all the other brand new Junior Members who so very recently signed up. There is certainly an abundance of you!

Misdirection aside, let us note that

THE DEMOCRATS STILL WON'T ADDRESS THE BIDEN EARMARKS!

Actually, unlike yourself I do step away, I have a job. Maybe you should try and step away.

Don't hold your breath it seems like Democrats have a hard time accepting any part of the responsbility for problems. They like to blame "only" Republicans for everything.


I posted this under a different thread ....

Interesting link to the "timeline" to the road/bridge to nowhere.

Yep, Democrats hand a hand in the "wasting of taxpayer money"

‘Bridge to nowhere’ chronology - Marcus Stern - Politico.com
"June 9, 1998: President Bill Clinton signs into law the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century authorizing road and bridge projects from 1998 through 2003. It includes $20.4 million for environmental and engineering studies for the Gravina Island Bridge."

Well, Junior Member Gigimeister. considering the circumstances, I don't think you're in a good position to tell Mom2twins2 to step away from this board. I don't know why you wrote "unlike you" to her because it appears that it's you who hasn't stepped away from this board.

It's a fact that a quick scan of your posts reveal that you have made over 50 of your 74 posts in only a few days!

Way to fast track your status, Gigimeister. I'm impressed with your quick rise. You're no longer a Junior Member! ROFL.

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You really are a hoot. Maybe you need to step away from the computer for a while

Perhaps you need to see why i said that.Why is it okay for her to say that to me. if you want scold someone perhaps you should scold the one who made the comment in the first place.

And by the way check the time of my last post, I do step away.

She was referring to how your grammar and spelling was getting progressively worse with each of your posts. I noticed it too.

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Hanbrig made over 50 post in 2 days if you want facts.

It's hambirg. . .and posts . . . and I'm working on the computer and sitting in conference calls this month. . .so yeah. . .not much else to do.

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Must be nice, going to work and getting paid to post here. Do tell how do i get a job like yours?

Learn to use correct grammar and spelling.

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How do you do it?

Gosh, you sound like a whinny child.

Oh wait I made a mistake. We all can not be perfect like you are.

I guess you, know all about whinny children.

Thread closed, over 50 posts........

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