from todays paper:
IOWA CITY POLICE LOOKING FOR ROBBERS:
IC Police say a man fell and broke his ankle while trying to flee two men who kicked him and then robbed him.
Officers responded at 12:32 a.m. today to 1960 Broadway for a medical call in which the victim reported that he'd just been robbed. Police learned the man had been in the area of 1960 Broadway when he was approached by two males who demanded that he give them the money. The victim tried to flee but fell and broke his ankle. The robbers kicked the victim and took his money, police said.
The suspects were last seen going into 1960 Broadway. The victim was taken to the hospital.
The first robber is described as a black male, about 6', in his 20's, wearing a gray hoodie and armed with a knife.
The second robber is described as a black man, about 5'6", in his 20's, wearing jeans and a dark colored hoodie.
Crimestoppers is offering up to $1,000.00 for information.

Comments to this article:
Considerii wrote: It seems that there are a disproportionate number of blacks involved in crimes. Can anyone answer why? There are many blacks in this community that do contribute something of value to this community. Then there are others that prey on the people of any color just because they appear weak and vulnerable. Every week there are Police and Fire Notices in the City news. Mostly assaults and robberies where the perpetrators were black. Is it the policy of the City to invite this trouble by inviting people here from the inner-cities causing this problem? Is it the lack of strong parenting skills and values within the black community? Is it the welfare system that supports them? What is the city doing to combat this situation? Opening the doors to gain federal funding to support the top heavy bureaucracy of the city is not the answer.
Herb-Bhang wrote: Broadway is obviously a high crime area, so why doesn't the ICPD treat it as such? I am sure a cop car driving through the area once an hour does little to deter crime. How about having a foot patrol cop wander around Broadway 24/7? Or surveillance cameras? Checkpoint/barbed wires? Just throwing out some ideas here. It is not a black thing, it is a crime thing. I would feel the same way if a local trailer park had been taken over by white-trash meth dealers.

I am NOT starting this thread to fight with anyone about race issues. THis is just an example that backs up my earlier, much maligned posts about race, racism and growing crime rates in our city. Maybe the news article and the above commentators have stated things better than I have. I am not either of those posters.

I am asking that this thread be kept civil and that it stick to the topic. If you don't have anything productive to say please ignore this thread. Thanks!

Bull, you are not trying to start a race thing again. If you live in a dominate black community most of the crimes will be committed by blacks. I live in a white area, all our crimes are committed by whites. It is very rare you read about a black person committing a crime out here.

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We have a high population of Native Americans---thus our jails have a higher than the average population of Native American inmates. We have very few AAs or Hispanics, conversely, our jails have a much lower than the average of AAs or Hispanics. But, since the state population is predominately WHITE--that's what are jails are full of! Does that mean more of any one color is committing crimes? Not necessarily...

Of course, rarely does our newspaper give the race of an individual that is arrested (it's pretty much a given that they are usually white or Native since that's the two major races in our state).

It's all about perspective.

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Oh good grief. You don't get it, not at all. It was not about what you said as much as how you said it. Well, maybe it was what you said as well.

You cannot say that the crime in your community is done by a certain group of people from southside Chicago with AA sounding names and therefore the rise in crime is because of black people which is essentially what you said minus a few LOL and tests and a couple of

Now, and because you haven't had your victim dinner this week, you decide to bring it up again. Why? Because you love the attention.

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WTH(heck) is this! We all know how you feel. Why don't you start threads about the REAL issues?

Our African American population is around 5-6%

Just wanted to back up my earlier posts. Honestly not trying to start something. When I read the paper today (it's online in case anyone is interested) it proved everything I have been trying to say. Thought maybe another perspective, with NO comments from me, might educate some folks as to my prior posts.

Well. what it proves to me is exactly what I thought all along. Thank you for posting this. Lots of people's questions have been answered here.

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The real correlation is between poverty and crime. I'll try to back that up later, but I'm on my way out the door.

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That could well be. I never stated why it is happening in our town, just that it is!

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I love it!

Glad you are all having so much fun!

Kathythe Shopper, this response is meant for only you.

You absolutely defeat me.

And that isn't meant as a compliment. If it wasn't that you weren't so consistent in your assertions, I'd think you were actually were a troll. I suppose that someone might think that you are a Democrat gone wild, just trying to make conservatives look insane by posting insane things.

I'm not thrilled with some of the things I read here. I think that some people are hypocrites, and others are dishonest, and yet others are passive aggressive. And sometimes my problems are with people on my side.

But I don't think that these apply to you. You seem pretty consistent in your views. You seem straightforward. You are more aggressive than passive aggressive.

And for the life of me, I don't get you. You are so wedded to an idea that you aren't willing to move off of it. Republicans and I disagree, but most times we are willing to concede to the common ground.

I'm not your fan, as it is fair to say before I get into an analysis of your posts.

Anyway, here is what I see from your posts, concentrating on this recent post.

Blacks are bringing crime to your neighborhood, in your opinion.

You think that local articles in your paper back you up. There was a crime recently in your newspaper. The perpetrators were identified as black. Someone wrote a comment about the fact that a disproportionate number of blacks are involved in local crime. You think that this supports your prior assertions that your community is being infiltrated by poor blacks from Chicago.

Answer me this. Let's get your positions on the table.

Is it your position that blacks engage in more crime than whites? And if so, do you think it because they are black?

Do you think that blacks have some sort of genetic makeup that makes them more predisposed towards crime?

If you believe that blacks engage in more crime, but still assert that they aren't genetically predisposed, why do you believe that blacks engage in more crime?

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I'm pretty sure I answered these for you last time around so I'm not going to address it again.* You can gleam what you want from the info I posted which was pretty similar to what I had posted before about what is happening in this particular town.* However, I will say that per capita, blacks are committing more crimes here than any other race at this time in this community.

Why read it then and bother to post?

No, and most unequivally no, I do not think that you answered my questions.

And if you said it before, what is the harm of saying it again?

Flat out, do you think that blacks commit more crimes than whites because they are black.

You have been beating around this issue with your posts from your local newspaper.

Just say it if you believe it.

We'll deal with your conclusion in another post.

All I am looking for here is a clear cut statement of your position.

Do you think that blacks are more inclined to crime than whites.

Yes or no.

We'll argue about why in a subsequent post.

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Ok, I'll bite.
In this particular town, at this particular time, black people are commiting more crimes per capita than white people. That is my answer. You can read into it what you want. I am not saying why this is happening, and I'm sure there are many issues involved, but that it is happening. I gave stats backing this last time and I'm not going there again. I just found it fascinating to read the paper today since it reinforced everything I got slammed to pieces about earlier. I hope this satisfies you because I really don't want to go back and forth on this.

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My original post asked that if you don't have anything productive to say to please ignore this thread. Did you missing reading this?

LOLOL! But this WHOLE thread pretty much says nothing!

Well you've decided to spend your precious time posting on it!!! lol

Kathy, you are from Iowa, right? What do you think about Agriprocessors?

Not in my neck of the woods so I haven't really been following it. Isn't that the kosher meat plant that had the big raid? That's about all I know about it. It's in a tiny town called Postville, Iowa, close to the Minnesota border.

Well, if you don't know about Agriprocessors, which is in your backyard, I just don't know. It's one of the biggest deals around right now, and if you don't know about it, but instead really want to talk about the guy who held up the 7/11or some equivalent that appears in your paper instead, I guess that tells me something.

But, I did ask some questions, which you said that you had answered previously. I don't think that you did, but accepting your position, there would be no reason you couldn't answer them again. If you believe it, say it.

Specifically

I'm not asking to only a cite to local crime statistics. I've posted why I don't trust them. If you do, and even if you don't, just answer my questions.

I've answered the question that was relavant to my post. If you don't like it or don't understand it then I guess you will just have to deal with that.
I'm happy for you that you are interested in Agriprocessors but that has nothing to do with this thread.

wow.......I'm gone for the weekend and the place goes wild........lol

Can I venture a guess to your question to Kathy?? I think the problem is that everyone assumed she was posting opinion. I didn't see that. What she was getting at was statistics. Not opinion. So to ask her opinion about the matter is moot. Which is also why she was confused about being deemed a racist.

Kathy......do youthink that blacks are more inclined to commit crime??

Kathy......do you think that there are statistically more blacks that commit crimes in your area??

two different things.

just trying to help.

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Melissa, Kathy was presenting "statistics" from the newspaper that she says no one trusts in her town to prove her opinion.

That is what was happening.

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1st question-I will be honest, possibly. But that might have the most to do with poverty, etc... I would have to find stats to form an overall, educated opinion.
2nd question-a resounding yes. That was the whole point and I backed it up with statistics from the Census and the Iowa Public Defenders Office, not the local paper as someone else stated.

Your op stated that you found You were quoting todays paper. The newspaper you said earlier was unreliable and untrustworthy. You change your story with each post and each time you get sked to explain yourself.

I am not a lawyer but I certainly hope that you are never in a court of law where you have to testify. You will be eaten alive.

Saying one thing then denying you said it and you said something else is called lying.

I don't get you. You could have left it alone and no one would have said another thing, but instead you bring it up for attention, whether it is good or bad.

It doesn't prove anything except what was thought about you all along.

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Just so there won't be some mystery person deleting this post or editing it. Here it is where you say it is from todays paper...the one paper I am guessing that when I posted from it, you said, no one trusts that paper in your town.

So, just for giggles, I have read the paper and watched the online news for the past several weeks in your area. I honestly haven't seen anything that would support your claim that people with the AA sounding names are commiting all or most of the crime in your area.

Of course, you already knew that. Which is why it took so long for you to come up with the above comment from your paper.

I don't know if I am going to comment on this subject again. You will continue to bring it up. It is a subject you cannot win. There are people here who will admit when they are wrong, willing to learn something.

The chick who said that she had a white man and she was not for interacial marraige was an idiot but after she said what she had to say, she didn't say it again. She understood that it wasn't accepted in today's society and didn't want to be hammered by those people who have a brain. I would think that would be anyone's decision when they make inflamatory comments.

I am not being mean to you nor mob like at all. If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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usnamom-not commenting to you on this anymore-don't waste your time.

Thats cool. got caught again. did you?

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Another statement by each to stop. Outstanding! Maybe this time seriously ?

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I'm serious!!!