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Old 09-28-2008, 08:13 PM
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PROOF that the libs lied about Fanny & Freddy

YouTube - Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
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Old 09-28-2008, 08:49 PM
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And Fox is right on the money yet again...

YouTube - Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial mess
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:05 PM
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Go Fox! Excellent!
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:31 PM
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Does anyone know which party controlled the White House and the legislative branch during the period of time 2000 to 2006?
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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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But no. .. No. . .NO!!! It was the Repubs that have the most mud on their hands! Haven't you read anything in this forum?!! Those Repubs are just evil. . .
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:38 PM
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Does anyone know which party controlled the White House and the legislative branch during the period of time 2000 to 2006?
The Repubs. . .but guess who killed any reform . .uh. .. Barney Frank.

In 2002, shortly before accounting irregularities were exposed at both companies, Frank said, "I do not regard Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as problems," The Wall Street Journal reported. After the Freddie Mac accounting scandal in 2003, Frank said, "I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis."

But there was a crisis, thanks in large part to Frank, Sen. Charles Schumer and others on the leash of these companies. In Congress, they made sure there was no additional oversight, no additional limit on executive behavior and compensation, and no further restraint on the growth of the companies' mortgage-backed-securities portfolios, among other changes.

In fact, Frank & Co. made matters worse by pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to take on greater risk. They wanted more loans to people who might not qualify for traditional bank financing. And, as The Wall Street Journal has pointed out, Frank "pressured regulators to ease up on their capital requirements -- which now means taxpayers will have to make up that capital shortfall."
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:02 PM
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So Congressman Frank, as ranking minority member, can prevent reform legislation from leaving the committee?
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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So Congressman Frank, as ranking minority member, can prevent reform legislation from leaving the committee?
He didn't prevent it from leaving commitee. I edited my post. The Repubs didn't have enough votes to pass it though. He certainly did his best to kill it. . .and he did.
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:39 PM
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Here's a fabu one for ya..dayum the truth can be PAINFUL!



YouTube - Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:59 PM
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Here's a fabu one for ya..dayum the truth can be PAINFUL!



YouTube - Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
Perhaps so but the posted video contains very little truth. IMO most of us are willing to concede that there is blame enough to go around for each party but that 9 minutes of misinformation isn't useful to either side of the argument.

Read the following for an idea of how the republican party and it's misguided "belief" in deregulation carries just as big a burden for the mess we are in as any of the democratic whipping boys mentioned in the video.

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WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, a longtime proponent of deregulation, acknowledged on Friday that failures in a voluntary supervision program for Wall Street’s largest investment banks had contributed to the global financial crisis, and he abruptly shut the program down.

The S.E.C.’s oversight responsibilities will largely shift to the Federal Reserve, though the commission will continue to oversee the brokerage units of investment banks.

Also Friday, the S.E.C.’s inspector general released a report strongly criticizing the agency’s performance in monitoring Bear Stearns before it collapsed in March. Christopher Cox, the commission chairman, said he agreed that the oversight program was “fundamentally flawed from the beginning.”

“The last six months have made it abundantly clear that voluntary regulation does not work,” he said in a statement. The program “was fundamentally flawed from the beginning, because investment banks could opt in or out of supervision voluntarily. The fact that investment bank holding companies could withdraw from this voluntary supervision at their discretion diminished the perceived mandate” of the program, and “weakened its effectiveness,” he added.

Mr. Cox and other regulators, including Ben S. Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, and Henry M. Paulson Jr., the Treasury secretary, have acknowledged general regulatory failures over the last year. Mr. Cox’s statement on Friday, however, went beyond that by blaming a specific program for the financial crisis — and then ending it.

On one level, the commission’s decision to end the regulatory program was somewhat academic, because the five biggest independent Wall Street firms have all disappeared.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/27/bu...=1&oref=slogin
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:25 PM
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nytimes...LOL! ok!

The regulatory failures started with Carter & were escalated with Clinton..escalated to the dangerous situation we are now experiencing.

Bottom line, They FORCED banks into lending to minorities that didn't have the means to pay! They were threatened with lawsuits if they didn't..and barry was with the firm doing the suing!
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:09 AM
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nytimes...LOL! ok!

NY Times is much more a mainstream media source than either Fox or something called the mouthpiece(lol)
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:19 AM
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Oh please..here's a perfect example of that!

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Real Story - How the Liberal Media Works
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:46 AM
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Oh please..here's a perfect example of that!

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Real Story - How the Liberal Media Works
Perfect example of that!
"Leader in Documenting, Exposing and Neutralizing Liberal Media Bias,"
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I have to admit that I'm a Republican BUT

I think both parties have crooked people in them. We should have term limits so people can't be in office too long and then owe FAVORS. These favors always seems to cost the taxpayer more money.

About the financial mess we are in, both parties have some blame. So how should it be fixed is the question. Stop pointing the finger and start working on the problem.

These people are not financial experts. They should not be trying to solve the problems. I am scared to death at what they are going to come up with. Throwing funny money at the problem is not the answer in my opinion. (But I'm not a financial expert)
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:44 AM
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OH no..I will NOT stop bringing it to anyone & everyones attention I can, Clinton was as dirty as they got, the crap he pulled off during his presidency will harm this nation for decades to come.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:25 AM
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I have to admit that I'm a Republican BUT

I think both parties have crooked people in them. We should have term limits so people can't be in office too long and then owe FAVORS. These favors always seems to cost the taxpayer more money.

About the financial mess we are in, both parties have some blame. So how should it be fixed is the question. Stop pointing the finger and start working on the problem.

These people are not financial experts. They should not be trying to solve the problems. I am scared to death at what they are going to come up with. Throwing funny money at the problem is not the answer in my opinion. (But I'm not a financial expert)

Excellent post. I agree, most thinking Americans know that the longer you are in office, the more opportunity to become corrupt. There should be terms limits.

Oh and by the way you sound reluctant to admit you are a Republican. Well that is easily fixed. JK.... or am I???
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:42 AM
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Excellent post. I agree, most thinking Americans know that the longer you are in office, the more opportunity to become corrupt. There should be terms limits.

Oh and by the way you sound reluctant to admit you are a Republican. Well that is easily fixed. JK.... or am I???
This sounds like a consession admitting that the F&F is indeed due to corruption & the majority of that corruption came from the democrat side. Starting with your cream dream Bill!
 

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