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National service forum at Columbia University

Obama calls for US military mobilization
By Patrick Martin

13 September 2008

In remarks that clearly pointed toward the restoration of the military draft under an Obama administration, the Democratic candidate said Thursday night that his job as president would include demanding that the American people recognize an “obligation” for military service. “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some,” Senator Barack Obama declared. . . .

In a closely balanced election, with the outcome still very much in doubt, Obama hopes to win the support of the real decision-makers—the topmost levels of the financial, political and military elite. Only a Democrat, he is suggesting, with the smokescreen of “equal sacrifice” and “fairness,” can provide the millions of recruits for the US military machine that will be required for wars against countries such as Iran, Russia and China.

While utilizing the occasional high-flown phrase to appeal to the idealism of youth and students, Obama is offering the ruling class a brutal bargain: Select me as president, and I will repay you in blood.

National service forum at Columbia University Obama calls for US military mobilization

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

I really pray he shows the "real" Obama before the country is completely fooled, and it's too late.

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Melissa

I agree. It's why he has to run on things like "hope" and "change." They're vague and relative. WTH do they really mean? Something different for everybody. . .you get to fill in your own blank. Why not run on your record and accomplishments and what specifically you are going to do?!

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

That is tooooo scary!! We don't need a draft. It would be better to raise their salaries if we get short on enlistments.

Where do you come up with this fanatical crap. I have a mental picture of you hunkered down in a quiet corner doing endless hours of internet searches muttering "gottogetobamagottogetobama........"

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The following quote is twisted to mean Obama supports a draft. What???
"If you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan," he said. "That's not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers, and I think it's important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some."
The Associated Press: McCain, Obama discuss views on public service

“Barack Obama and John McCain attempted to set their differences aside Thursday night, if only for a moment, as they encouraged Americans to volunteer in their community and military at a forum on national service.”
Candidates Pull Punches, Stress Volunteerism at Service Forum - FOXNews.com Elections

“McCain also reprised his criticism of Ivy League institutions for barring Reserve Officer's Training Corps from campus. Participants in ROTC join the military after graduation.
``We're here in a wonderful institution,'' McCain said, noting that his daughter graduated from Columbia. ``But do you know that this school will not allow ROTC on this campus?''
``I don't think that's right,'' he said. ``Shouldn't the students here be exposed to the attractiveness of serving in the military, particularly as an officer?''
When it was his turn for the same question, Obama, who got his undergraduate degree from Columbia, agreed with McCain.
``I recognize that there are students here who have differences in terms of military policy,'' Obama said. ``But the notion that young people here at Columbia or anywhere, in any university, aren't offered the choice, the option of participating in military service, I think is a mistake.'' “
Bloomberg.com: U.S.

“The big news at the "Service Nation" joint appearance of John McCain and Barack Obama was not what they disagreed on but what they agreed on: both supported colossal increases in the size of full-time civilian national service opportunities.McCain noted that he's proposed legislation with Sen. Evan Bayh, a Democrat, to increase AmeriCorps, the community service program, from 75,000 up to 250,000 a year. Obama has proposed a similar increase. So whichever candidate wins, AmeriCorps may more than triple in size. What's more, both men yesterday endorsed a new bill about to be introduced jointly by Sen. Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch to create more service opportunities.

The main differences between Obama and McCain were the level of detail. Obama has comprehensive plan and talked about several elements, such as a Veterans Service Corps to help veterans re-assimilate and an Energy Corps to help fuel energy independence. McCain was vague but left no doubt that, unlike some other conservatives, he supports a major government role in creating civilian service opportunities. "AmeriCorps has been one of the astonishing successes," he said”
McCain Rediscovers His Appreciation For Public Service, By Steve Benen - CBS News

Isn’t McCain now the candidate of “Change” according to McCain?

Hey. . .he figures it's working for Obama.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

So just what does that mean to you? I mean. . .that's what he said, no?

ETA: Why does he get to be so vague? Then everyone rushes in and says. . ."What he meant to say was. . .(fill in the blank). It's crappy, because if it doesn't fly well in the political wind then he just comes back and says. .. "Yeah. . .yeah. . .that's what I MEANT to say." McCain came right out and said he supports a volunteer military only. . .why can't Obama do the same? In the debate when specificcally asked how this bailout would effect his plans. . .he never gave one specific. . .at least McCain said he would propose a spending freeze. Obama pulls the same crap with gun rights. He says he supports the 2nd Amemdment, but never really answers any specifics, and his record shows that he's cleary pro-gun control. Why can't he just come out and say exactly where he stands???

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

Personally, I agree with that statement. Your side got us into this war. Now you have a problem with someone saying that the burden shouldn't be shared by all?

That just seems undemocratic. And unpatriotic.

You think that you or yours are better somehow than the troops fighting? You and yours should be exempt?

That all parts of society should take on this obligation the small towns and the urban centers. It’s a general “all of us” not to be taken literally as every man, woman and child in the US.

Go hambirg-you just keep "hunkering away" and coming up with all this info! I appreciate it. I had my son search on this topic. Obama does want a required service of some type. I'm not for that at all. I want less government. I wouldn't want to see how that would be handled!lol

I don't think he's vague at all. I think people who don't like him take him out of context and then it has to be explained. Personally I think McCain is vague. Obama’s stand on gun control is very clear to me. McCain’s is harder to get a grasp of because he changes it so often but that debate is for a different time…good night.

That's your interpretation of what he said. Why can't he just say that he supports a voluntary military? Really not that hard.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

I understand what you are saying. The only way to ensure that would be a draft. So why doesn't Obama just say that he supports a draft if need be? Oh wait. . . .cause that wouldn't be a very popular thing to say politically.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

Then what are his "so clear to you" stands on gun control?

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm