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It is way over the line. Students have been told that they can not wear clothing that supports a canadiate then teacher unions should not be allowed to do this type of things either. Schools should be the one place that children are given the right to learn about our election process without any type of encourging one canadiate (or party) over another. |
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Why does this bother you? Are they not allowed to support a candidate? I'm sure not EVERY teacher will be doing this, I'm sure there are plenty that do not support Obama. If they wore blue to suppport McCain I'm sure you would be singin a different song.
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I think that political values are something that should be kept out of the classroom in public schools. Completely. The job of a teacher is to teach a subject and to behave with credibility and maturity as they interact with their students. I don't need a math teacher trying to indoctrinate my kids about politics. The ones present to witness their solidarity behind their union-backed candidate are the very children they are supposed to be influencing intellectually, and I just don't think that influencing them *towards* a specific candidate is a role they should take on. I feel differently about private schools, since parents can vote with their feet and their dollars if they don't like what's going on there. |
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The FOP endorses McCain. Would it be ok if they had a "Magenta for McCain Day" where all police officers were asked to wear magenta and when they're pulling over people on traffic stops they are asked to encourage those peolpe to register to vote and try to convince them to vote for McCain??
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My daughter had a teacher in middle school that was a vegan one year. She tried to tell the kids how horrible it was to eat meat and how bad they should all feel when they eat animals. Now, my daughter listened to her, and then made her own decision. She still liked meat and would continue to eat it. Someone that is old enough to vote is old enough to think for themselves. Just because a teacher or cop or a parent tells them who they should vote for doesn't mean that they are a brainwashed robot and they will listen. Our family is mostly Democrat. My twins turned 18 this year and one registered Democrat and one Independent. I have no idea who they will be voting for until they actually vote. We've watched the debates together, and I'm going to depend on the fact that they are pretty well informed for their age and will make the decision they feel is right for them. Just because you have a position of authority over someone, doesn't necessarily mean you have the ability to make them change their vote . Because my boss is in a position of authority over me, does it mean he can make me vote for McCain? I don't think so. KWIM?
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No, no...not in my formative years...I'm well past that ......lol But neither are those students that are part of the voting public, they would be 18. Elementary aged children can't vote. These "children" would be old enough to know (I hope) when someone is trying to promote their own agenda (whether it be a candidate, PETA, etc) and to make their own decision as to how to proceed.
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I completely agree with you. My DS is a freshman in college newly registered to vote and I can guarantee you no teacher would be able to influence him who to vote for. Thats why I also think its crazy to make such a big deal about it. In order to vote you must be 18 so I think they can make their own minds up. Jen
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![]() It's just not the place of a teacher to even try. . . that being the whole point.
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Surely there are some McCain supporters who teach excluding, of course, the one who is currently on leave for using the "N" word in a social studies class. Marianna teacher suspended for 'racially charged' comments about Obama | tallahassee.com | Tallahassee Democrat If you all want to get all upset about something shall we talk about the pastors of some 30 churches who are telling their church members exactly who to vote for this year. BTW, I'm okay with that if they agree to give up their church's tax exempt status. Washington Times - Churches to defy IRS on sermons
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I got the idea that they would try given the fact that the e-mail from the union said: "Your next chance to help with the campaign is coming up ... and it is very simple to do. Tuesday is OBAMA BLUE DAY!!!"Teachers were encouraged to "WEAR BLUE -don't wear an NEA for Obama shirt to school, but wear something else blue. 2) REGISTER TWO VOTERS OR talk to two people who may be on the fence/ or a McCain supporter and sway them to become a Obama Supporter). LETS MAKE OBAMA BLUE DAY a DAY OF ACTION!!!!" They are being encouraged to sway voter's . . .not just wear blue. I think the teacher you referred to should rightfully be on leave. That didn't do anything to help McCain. . .just a rogue a*shole that hurt. ![]() I agree with you on the churches too. I hope they lose their tax status. ETA: Especially with those churches, it is sooo not necessary to tell people how to vote. I'm assuming their opinion has to do with the abortion issue. Just give a passionate sermon on your church's stand about abortion and that that is a church priority. Anybody can figure out where the candidates stand on that.
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__________________ Ana The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig? |
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See, discussion is good.
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In today's newspaper Va. Education Association e-mail draws ire of parents, educators - Roanoke.com Va. Education Association e-mail draws ire of parents, educators Parents felt pupils were being used as political pawns. WAYNESBORO -- An e-mail sent by the Virginia Education Association to its members encouraging voter registration of students and support for Democratic nominee Barack Obama was swiftly deleted from Waynesboro teacher e-mail accounts after it was received last week, officials said Friday. Waynesboro Schools Superintendent Robin Crowder said the e-mail was ordered deleted after a few minutes because "we have no interest in influencing the kids." Crowder said the school system wants students to take part in the political process, but does not want to sway their votes or opinions. The e-mail has drawn the ire of the Republican Party of Virginia, a nonunion state teachers association and parents from across the commonwealth. The e-mail did not go to all Waynesboro teachers, only to those who are members of the Waynesboro Education Association, said Rosemary Wagoner, a Waynesboro Schools technology coach. VEA President Kitty Boitnott said the e-mail did not ask teachers to talk to students about a specific candidate, but did encourage them to register students and to wear blue. Boitnott said the VEA does not encourage teachers to use their classrooms for partisan political purposes. The text of the e-mail said "there are people out there not yet registered. You teach some of them." The e-mail makes repeated references to Obama. Tracey Bailey, state director of Virginia Professional Educators, the state's largest nonunion professional teachers association, said his organization has received numerous phone calls and e-mails from parents. "Parents are understandably upset when they feel students are being used as political pawns," said Bailey. Jeff Frederick, chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, said in a statement Wednesday that "teachers are hired to teach, not use their taxpayer-funded positions to coerce and indoctrinate our children to their political agenda." |
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I just read this article. The very liberal Roanoke Times, however, managed to place this article on the last page of the "Virginia" section. Had it been a negative for Republicans involving the school system, they would have placed it right on the front page. I'm glad, though, that one superintendent had enough sense to delete the e-mail and not allow it to go through. Good for him!! |
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