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Old 10-08-2008, 11:56 AM
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Question where do you see the U.S. a year from now?

With everything the way it is on wall-street and oil prices. How do you all see things a year from now?

All I will say is I don't think it will be good.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:49 AM
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IMO It depend who wins. I agree I don't think it will be good.

BUT I would prefer the United States of America FLAG flying in our nations capital instead of the Obama emblem.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:16 AM
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I see us making a recovery. Gas prices are already dropping dramatically (down about .75/gal in my area). I think all the media hype about all this doom and gloom has got people scared to death. During the good times people were spending willy nilly, and not thinking about what to do when things slow down. The housing crising has been coming on for THREE YEARS. How much more warning did we need???

I think if people would just calm down, we'll be just fine. Yes, of course, pay attention, but, don't get so scared about things that you have a knee jerk reaction.

Bottom line, I think we'll be just fine in a year.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:44 AM
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I see us making a recovery. Gas prices are already dropping dramatically (down about .75/gal in my area). I think all the media hype about all this doom and gloom has got people scared to death. During the good times people were spending willy nilly, and not thinking about what to do when things slow down. The housing crising has been coming on for THREE YEARS. How much more warning did we need???

I think if people would just calm down, we'll be just fine. Yes, of course, pay attention, but, don't get so scared about things that you have a knee jerk reaction.

Bottom line, I think we'll be just fine in a year.
I totally agree! I think the majority of us just need to stop and take a deep breath and be ready to ride out the wave. I do feel for the retirees, especially those that depend on their dividends. They should get some type of assistance, instead of those who financed way over their heads and are now getting help with their mortgages!

The rest of us just need to be smart, save where you can and expect our world as we've known it for the last 5 years has changed. The more we jump to conclusions and start pulling our money from the stock market and banks, the more harm we are doing to our country.

The Media has taken control of our lives in so many ways. I really believe if the media would of stayed out of our wars, we would not be in the predictament we are in today over in Iraq and Afghanistan. But that is another whole story.... Turn off the TV, unplug the computer and go do something enjoyable. There are lots of things we can do that are either free or very inexpensive. (I know of a lot of fall festivals taking place this weekend.)
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:46 AM
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Today's news reports the sign in NY that tallies the national debt ran out of spaces.

Over ten trillion. Am I even spelling trillion correctly? It's a word we shouldn't know, much less in regard to debt of our own government when Congress continues to spend.

Oh, and now they just gave away over 700 billion to make themselves feel good. They never learn and are not wise, and yes, I know someone voted for them. In a year, I see us further in debt and this 700 billion gift having done little to no beneficial good. I see people continuing to cry that nothing is their fault and yet they didn't make good decisions and haven't learned to do without.

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Old 10-09-2008, 03:45 PM
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BUT I would prefer the United States of America FLAG flying in our nations capital instead of the Obama emblem.
Huh? What Obama emblem?

I think whoever wins, we'll be better off than we are now. I don't think the next president will be able to fix things quickly, so it'll take time either way, but I don't think the bottom will fall out.

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Old 10-09-2008, 04:58 PM
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No Flames, but hopefully we will have Obama and Biden leading this country and sincerely hope for all Americans that in due time with them leading our country life will get better for all. Again I personally feel we need a big change. Bush and Cheney left us in a huge mess and again I sincerely hope that a new change by letting the Democrats lead our country times will get better for all. Again these are my personal beliefs and I feel we are so close and will be very proud to have democrats back in the White House. For me time for the Bush Administraion to leave and let us Americans heal from all his damage. Catherine
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:19 PM
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If McCain gets in we will be on the road to recovery. If Obama gets in it will get a lot worse before it gets better. Obama will raise your taxes-don't be naive enough to think he can fulfill all his promises unless he does. If it's Obama, our country will head quickly down the road to socialism. I would much rather have everyone be more responsible and not give people even more entitlements, which is what the Dems will do.
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:35 PM
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I sincerely hope that a new change by letting the Democrats lead our country times will get better for all. Again these are my personal beliefs and I feel we are so close and will be very proud to have democrats back in the White House.
You know, I hear so much about how things will be 'so wonderful' when the democrats and Obama get in the White House (wait, I hear choirs singing). If he does win, he'd better get at the job and roll up those sleeves like he's promised and not make any excuses nor play the blame game. There is so much hype about the guy and he's being made into a saviour of the world.

So if he does win, I say 'bring it on, Mr. Obama. Show us what you got and it better be as 'wonderful' as you claim it's going to be.'
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:31 PM
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You know, I hear so much about how things will be 'so wonderful' when the democrats and Obama get in the White House (wait, I hear choirs singing). If he does win, he'd better get at the job and roll up those sleeves like he's promised and not make any excuses nor play the blame game. There is so much hype about the guy and he's being made into a saviour of the world.

So if he does win, I say 'bring it on, Mr. Obama. Show us what you got and it better be as 'wonderful' as you claim it's going to be.'
Excellent point! If he does win I hope he is what he claims to be but I have serious reservations.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:29 PM
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And what if McCain wins? Is he allowed to just relax his first couple of years and hit the vacay houses as much as possible? Either one will be thrown in in the deep end (of a big pile of sh*t), and both have made copious promises. I would certainly hope that your expectations would be the same no matter who wins.

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Old 10-09-2008, 09:31 PM
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You know, I hear so much about how things will be 'so wonderful' when the democrats and Obama get in the White House (wait, I hear choirs singing).
If you travel back in time eight years, you'll hear those same choirs singing about George Bush and the return to Republican, Conservative, Christian values. So how's that been working out?

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Sorry to disagree again. but The Republicans continue to lie and cheat and steal and make themselves richer. The MCcain and Palin beliefs are all the same as Bush, and as far as Palin being our vice president , its a real scary thought, this women as no knowledge of what she is doing. Personally she should say in Alaska and worry more about her 5 children especially her young young baby, and her daughter who will be having a baby. her mom needs to be there for her as this time. Again I am not getting nasty but these are my personal views.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:37 AM
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It is interesting that Conservatives always say that if Obama gets in he will make things worse and that he better be working hard when he wins and do what he has promised. When they dream about Sen McCain winning, they act like him just winning will be enough to solve all the problems in the US now. The country is a mess due to the last eight years and it will take years to fix it. Both candidates want to make the country sound. Just like eight years ago when Bush was elected, the democrats were told to get with the program and remember that he is our president and we should be American and follow him and his ideas. I hope that on Novemeber 5th the same things will be said. The only way we can prosper is for everyone to sacrifice and get on board.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:59 PM
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Sorry to disagree again. but The Republicans continue to lie and cheat and steal and make themselves richer. The MCcain and Palin beliefs are all the same as Bush, and as far as Palin being our vice president , its a real scary thought, this women as no knowledge of what she is doing. Personally she should say in Alaska and worry more about her 5 children especially her young young baby, and her daughter who will be having a baby. her mom needs to be there for her as this time. Again I am not getting nasty but these are my personal views.
It's really funny that you think the Democrats are not part of that "lie and cheat and steal and making themselves richer" thing. If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious!!!

Please don't forget that the Democratic Congress holds much of the power in what happens in this country. They're approval rating is lower than Bush's. And if you don't like what Bush has done then you will hate what Obabma has planned. Bush has been the most Democratic Republican to ever be president. He has pretty much betrayed any Republican ideals. . .less government, we have gotten more, lower taxes, we have gotten more, less government tinkering in the free market, we have gotten more, less federal madates on states, we have gotten more. . . .
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:48 PM
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It's really funny that you think the Democrats are not part of that "lie and cheat and steal and making themselves richer" thing. If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious!!!

Please don't forget that the Democratic Congress holds much of the power in what happens in this country. They're approval rating is lower than Bush's. And if you don't like what Bush has done then you will hate what Obabma has planned. Bush has been the most Democratic Republican to ever be president. He has pretty much betrayed any Republican ideals. . .less government, we have gotten more, lower taxes, we have gotten more, less government tinkering in the free market, we have gotten more, less federal madates on states, we have gotten more. . . .
Democrats have had Congress since 2007. So far this year, Republicans have filibustered 94 times. People who read know why the approval rating is so low.

Bush is a conservative Republican despite all your protests. He lowered taxes across the board. He lowered taxes twice for the richest among us! He pushed through legislation to deregulate the financial markets. He discouraged those agencies charged with oversight from actually practising oversight. (Melanine anyone? Lead paint for baby?) He started a war without provocation. (Republicans are awfully fond of war) He awarded no bid contracts to all the good Republicans. He did make his own laws. After all, he's the President and if the President does it, it can't be illegal! He appointed judges who are very, very business friendly.

Like Reagan he borrowed and spent. Like Reagan, he ran up a huge deficit. Unlike Reagan, he inherited a surplus.

Bush is a classic Republican. Your allegations are absurd.
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HAmbirg sorry but I totally disagree, these are my personal views, if only Al Gore would have won 8 years ago , we as the Richest Nation in the world would not be in the mess we are now. It all starts with the Bush and Cheney Administration. They are the total blame, as an American and being an American I feel very priveleged to live in the best freedom country we do , but what they , the Bush and CHeney Administration as done to this wonderful country is a total total shame. If I could go back I am sure I was not the only one person on these boards that wished Al Gore would have been our president. Perhaps one day he will. Also as far as the war which I never discuss because I find it too sad, we as Americans had no business going to war. We has Americans should worry more about ourselves, all the poor innocent family members or loves ones who has loss their lives to what ... for what. A country that thrives on fighting and are terriorists and seriously when and hopefully Obama comes into power. I treadly feel for the day we retreat how much bloodshead will spread. Also if you feel you are for the war, if you had a person family member there , your thoughts would be totally different. Wars never change anything or solve anything, all they do is spread more bloodshed and death, So much shame on Bush to have sent our American troops into a country we had NO BUSINESS TO DO SO> Catherine
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:05 PM
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ILUVLUCY,

I realize this is off subject, but your comments about war just made me remember the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel. In it, he talks about how many Jewish people were being led like sheep to the slaughter and how they continued to walk along knowingly because they "KNEW" that somebody in the world they lived in would certainly not just allow them to be slaughtered.
There are so many people in the world who continued to be slaughtered through genocide, civil war, you name it, simply because "good men do nothing." Yes, America has its own problems, but if I had to choose to fight off a bully or stand back and allow another Holocaust to occur, I'd have to choose to fight the bully. I know this opens the door to many more discussions, but it's how I feel. I say this having very close family members in the military.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:22 PM
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ILUVLUCY,

I realize this is off subject, but your comments about war just made me remember the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel. In it, he talks about how many Jewish people were being led like sheep to the slaughter and how they continued to walk along knowingly because they "KNEW" that somebody in the world they lived in would certainly not just allow them to be slaughtered.
There are so many people in the world who continued to be slaughtered through genocide, civil war, you name it, simply because "good men do nothing." Yes, America has its own problems, but if I had to choose to fight off a bully or stand back and allow another Holocaust to occur, I'd have to choose to fight the bully. I know this opens the door to many more discussions, but it's how I feel. I say this having very close family members in the military.

We didn't go to Iraq to stop a genocide. No genocide was taking place. I'm not sure why we went to Iraq but I am sure that no genocide was taking place, there were no WMD, and there certainly wasn't any nuclear program.
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You are referring to wars that took place long time ago. I could never ever forget or admit that during the civil war or ww2 did so many innocent people lose their lives and the Holocaust was truly the saddeest of them all. However it 2008 almost 2009 and again as Americans we should be able to discuss with other countries before we choose to go into war. Sorry but this war was not our business, if it was just to get rid od Saddem Hussien, then I totally agree the man was a true terror a vicious term for a human being, he was not even human, he was a monster as was Hitler and Stalin and Moussili sp... but if we are going to enter in any country that are being led by this horrible people, how many of our family members must pay the price. Sorry but this war was not needed at all and on a final note Obama Bin Laden is still out there more efforts should have been on Bush's part to get him. Do you really think once we retreat these people of Iran will live a democratic life. No they will not because as we speak, these people hate americans and with all the suicide bombers , there country is so torn and a mess. again how many more americans must die. Personally I have a son and I would not be in favor if him serving, not for this war no way... Catherine
 

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