To the terrorist attacks that occured on 9/11/01???

So many people are against the war going on right now in Iraq. While I hate to see innocent people hurt or killed, that is "collateral damage" of war, and it happens. When we dropped the bomb on Japan, don't think only the "bad" people died.

After 9/11/01 I wanted someone to pay. Admittedly, I was not following politics too closely at that time, but, I was just sickened and saddened at what happened. I was very inspired by all the people pulling together to help out, tho.

I have to say, we have not had another terrorist attack on our soil since then.

So, if you were in charge at the time, and called the shots, what would YOU have done in regards to the 9/11/01 attacks??

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Well speaking on a personal note here, Because for one thing it terrible thing happened right in my hometown, secondly I lost 2 people my uncle and a very dear dear friend who worked on the 37th floor. My uncle was a fireman and my friend worked there since 1978. Omg how many times did we all visit him there. I also had my senior prom in the windows of the world. So for me its truly personal to have gone to nyc a miillion times and no realize that those building are no longer standing is something I will never ever forget. Now with that being said I am againist war any war it creates more violence, the thing I would feel the president or me to do was go after the person or persons responsible which was Al=Queda and Osama Bin Laden and seek him and his cohorts, not his whole country and innocent people living here and our Soldiers here.... Peace. Catherine

I would have gone after Bin Ladin in Afghanistan. I would have done that with or without the UN or NATO. Bin Ladin was responsible for 9/11.

I would not have made up a bunch of "facts" and lied because I wanted to take out Saddam for reasons known only to myself, Cheney, Bill Kristol and Dougie Feith.

It's not like we had a pattern of these attacks occurring before we went to war, either. I don't think that our being at war with Iraq has been even the least bit of a deterrent to Bin Laden, who, I think we're all pretty sure, is decidedly NOT in Iraq, anyway.


I think I would have put our money into beefing up homeland security, airport/airplane security, educating our children, and funding our soldiers/military. But I would not have sent them to Iraq.

We had the sympathy and endless offers of assistance from most of the world directly after 9/11. Look what our actions post 9/11 in the world have done to that. We went from being perceived as the blind-sided country behind which the world wanted to rally, to the big bully country whose people still can't explain clearly why we're fighting in Iraq.

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Umm, hello! Yeah we did! From mr. OBL himself!

Sorry, Kolu - I should have qualified - my point was that we haven't had any attacks on our own soil that killed thousands...

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I appreciate your stand, but, are you saying that attacks that kill "just a few" would not matter?? I'm a little confused by this statement.

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Ahh...so the lives of the USS Cole members don't qualify? Or the first world trade center bombing? So it takes thousands of deaths for one to respond?

If the war we are currently in, spending billions of dollars on a month, and losing precious American lives, was actually a JUST war, Bush and his cronies would not have made up lies and stories (which they now admit to) to get us there. They used 9/11 as an EXCUSE to invade a country where the leaders/masterminds of 9/11 did not exist or reside. Nothing justifies that.

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AIA--I could be wrong, but I think she meant that we didn't have large scale attacks on American soil. I know that the USS Cole was bombed, US embassies in several places, but no pattern--no rhyme or reason. And certainly no pattern of attacks on US soil. I think the largest attack on US soil, just prior to 9/11 would have been the OK City bombing--and that was perpetrated by a US citizen against the very country he proclaimed as his own.

Again, I think she's saying there was no pattern on US soil.

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POster Jeanief I could not agree with you more 100 percent, thanks . peace , Catherine

You forgot first WTC...

Um, Obama Bin Laden hasn't been in Afganistan for a very long time. Before we even got in to Afghanistan he had moved to Pakistan, IIRC. We did fight down the Taliban in Afghanistan and they provided assistance to OBL, but OBL hightailed it out of there while Bush took a ten second breather as he attempted to do the 'nice' thing and let NATO consider some 'dialogue'.

Here's what I don't get... there was a point in time when we were told that Bin Laden receives dialysis every other moment and couldn't have survived a move to the next door neighbor's house, much less into the caves of Pakistan. Perhaps the caves are outfitted like the stations on LOST. I dunno. I just know that if he was physically in dire straits several years ago that it seems odd to me that we would believe him alive and well today.

Another thing we were cautioned about back at that time was that there were sleeper cells literally all over the world and that they were ready to be called into action. It was said that any public statements heard over the airwaves by terrorists might contain queues intended to set off chain reactions - queues that would go unnoticed to those of us unaware of what they were.

Because of this, I've always believed that we know exactly where Bin Laden is and that we want to keep him alive until such a time as we are confident that all of the spokes in his wheel have been followed to the rim and taken out. I think that we have tabs on his conversations with cell members on the 'outside' and that little by little in clandestine meetings in dark alleyways we are taking out those individuals who were trained and planted, assimilated and thus prepared to live lives right in front of us... and then one day do us harm.

And I think once we have those people taken care of that we will magically *find* Bin Laden. That, or be told that we have recently learned his death and we'll all sing, "Ding-Dong, the witch is dead!"

We hear a lot of angst about our position in Iraq, and while I understand it, I don't think it takes into account the position we were in post-9/11. We were attacked by a group of people who belong to a religion, and it is a religion that dominates the Middle East. Were the Taliban stationed in Iraq? We don't really know, but if they were, their presence there was probably minimal. Still, what we knew was that we needed to continue to work in Afghanistan, and in the midst of that Saddam Hussein was violationg air space provisions agreed to in the Gulf War cease fire. That is undisputed. He had fired at some of our unmanned spy planes that were supposed to fly over Iraqi air space - and that is not in dispute. He was refusing to present evidence that he had destroyed known quantities of 'ingredients' in WMD's.

That's really important. He was supposed to, per the cease fire agreement, destroy those things and present the evidence. He HAD not and he WOULD not.

And he had shot willy-nilly at some of our planes and we were conducting a war very close in proximity to Iraq and his nation shared a religion with the terrorists, who based their 'holy war' on that very religion.

And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And we were still very emotionally scarred from 9/11.

So people can moan and complain and point fingers about Iraq all they want. They can bemoan the innocent civillians who died as a result of our invasion, and I can mourn them with the knowledge that Saddam filled many mass graves with similarly situated innocent civillians year after year after year - genocide, rape, working with France and Russia and selling them FOOD that was given to them by NATO to feed the starving populace of Iraq - FOOD that was purchased largely with American dollars - and using the proceeds from that food to build palace after palace in which he lived lavishly as he raped and murdered countless innocent women that he wanted to have his way with.

And all of that would still be going on were it not for our intervention.

What does that have to do with anything? Obama says he wants us to pre-emptively go in to places like Darfur where we are able to do so. He says we have a moral obligation to do so. One could make the case that given Saddam's behavior against the citizens of Iraq - the citizens who starved while he sold their food, the citizens he raped and murdered and imprisoned for nonsensical reasons - that in fact under Obama's description of a reason good enough to invade, Iraq might've passed HIS smell test.

It was a country that quite likely would've become the next base for Al Quidah's operations. They were thumbing their nose at the very cease fire agreement they signed on to. There was extremely good cause to predict that it could quickly become a problem... and we didn't have a shred of evidence that the WMD's Saddam was known to be making in the previous decade had been destroyed.

Dirty bombs in suitcases... nukes in suitcases... powder to blow up a plane in the bottom of a shoe...

The climate when we invaded Iraq was much different then than it is now. People who don't care for Bush like to scream, "LIES LIES IT WAS ALL A PACK OF LIES!" I grow weary of that hysteria because it *was't* all a pack of lies. Certainly, in light of our heightened fear we may have seen and presumed some things, especially given Hussein's lack of cooperation in WMD disclosure. But judgement skewed by circumstance is, IMHO, a much different thing than an outright lie told to get one's way simply so one could go in and kill innocent people and break their stuff.

Long-term, our presence in Iraq may prove to be a very vital thing for our security. If we are allowed to maintain a presence there as we do in Europe, I believe we will have a measure of stability that we otherwise might not have had. If am Islamic nation seeks to do us harm, we are that much closer to their home base.

Do I think that seems "fair"? Would I want them to come plant a base in *our* hemisphere? Nope. No way. Then again, most Americans wouldn't be swayed by a scenario such as this one:

Nevermind the humanitarian reasons that were just for going to Iraq, Let's not forget one HUGE thing about our presence in there, global positioning! Location location location! Iran is a huge factor in our positioning. Also, does nobody remember that it was Bill Clintons head guy who swore that yes indeed there are WMD's there.

Thanks for the memories, kolu. How quickly we forget!

I agree that the positioning is huge. There are too many unstable wack-jobs in power over there for us to even consider pulling a Panama Canal and just handing Iraq the keys to its own country and closing the door behind us without *some* quid pro quo for having rid them of Saddam Hussein.

I am not convinced that Barak Hussein Obama wouldn't do just that, however.

Did you see the piece today that told how Barak had a secret meeting trying to undermine the current Bush strategy - a strategy which is driven by our military leaders and is WORKING? Seriously - the more I know about him, the more untrustworthy a Chicago politician he appears to be. His connections to and his comfort zone with people who would seek to do us in astounds me.

He's a thug that has hung out with nothing but thugs throughout his entire political career.

kOLU CALLING bARACK oBAMA A THUG IS SOME PRETTY STRONG WORDS IN MY BOOK.... bUT AGAIN I STAND FIRM TIME FOR A CHANGE AND CANNOT WAIT TILL oBAMA AND jOE bIDEN LEAD OUR COUNTRY, SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS THEY ARE LOCKED RIGHT NOW. i AM NOT SCREAMING NO PLEASE NO OFFENSE TAKEN... cATHERINE

Devinmom I agree with you 100 percent I would also have never sent them to Iran, we did not belong there, because I fear so much when we will start to retreat.... too scary... Catherine

You sleep with dogs, you get fleas. I mean every single word of it.

We aren't in Iran, largely because we did send them to Iraq.

YOu sleep with dogs you can fleas excuse me are you referring to me plmk asap. Catherine

so sorry Iran or Iraq we belong in none of those countires and you knew the country i mean;t to say, you did not have to point it out for all the whole board to see, are you perfect make so mistakes. i do not think so..... Again we had no business starting a war with any of these countries and thats what truly matters..... Catherine

I am referring to Obama. You know the one you chastized me for in the quote I responded to .

Hmm, with that logic, we should have stayed out of Germany then, no?

OBL was in Afghanistan. In fact, he was at Tora Bora and escaped into Pakistan from there. Having already diverted forces to Iraq, we sent only 24 men and a couple of hundred shepherds against him. Not too hard to understand how he got away.

Yes, precisely. Thanks, M.

AIA, I absolutely think that any attack matters. Any attacks on *us* as well as any of our attacks on *them* - I don't minimize.

I am not even slightly of the mindset that our going to war in Iraq has been a deterrent to anyone. We don't seem to have intimidated anyone who is after us. We DO seem to have *alienated* MANY who were with us, though - particularly just post 9/11

IMHO, of course.

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Name just one.

Oh, ok. got it. Not to overlook any attacks, just not seeing a pattern of large scale. I guess it's kind of like the death penalty. I don't think that ones deters people, either.

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Good analogy. I wish I had thought of that one!

I'm pretty sure you're right about the death penalty, too. I did a report on it (way back in the day!) and I think I remember there being lots of evidence supporting the fact that it generally does not act as a deterrent.

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Just one?

Resko


Oh boy lookie here...he's spilling some beans!

Jailed Obama Fundraiser Spills the Beans - FOXNews.com Elections

William Ayers

Raines

Johnson

ACORN

Revereand Wright

Meeks

Pfleger

Obama's Communist Mentor Frank Marshall Davis

the "New Party" in Chicago (socialist party)

None of these people qualify as "thugs". Get a dictionary. I guess you're free to bandy any slur you wish. Facts matter to me.

Oh really? The complete mob mentality of chicago corruption doesn't fit the very first one on the list? Why is he in jail then? Why is he squealing on all those chicago politicians..

Nice try nasty spice.

Every where you turn...

The FBI is investigating a former Illinois state senator who is a poker-playing buddy of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama.

According to Chicago authorities, the FBI visited the offices in Joliet, Ill., of a Will County auditor to ask questions about Larry Walsh, a longtime friend of Mr. Obama's, and his chief of staff Matt Ryan.

Mr. Walsh, who served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2005, was endorsed by Mr. Obama in his county executive election bid. With the support of some of Mr. Obama's U.S. Senate volunteers, he easily defeated incumbent Republican Joseph Mikan.

Will County auditor Steve Weber confirmed that his office had been asked by the FBI to assist in an investigation, but he did not elaborate on the specifics.

Two FBI agents out of Chicago reportedly spent more than an hour in the Will County offices on Wednesday morning.


Exactly how connected is Barack Obama with Larry Walsh and Will County? Glad you asked!!!

Commentary has more information garnered from answer center, Barack Obama, under the header of "What earmarks has Senator Obama requested for fiscal years 2006 and 2007?"


And Barack Obama? Well he sure got a lot of earmarks in there for Will County, although we do not know whether these are the immediate concern of or related in any way to the investigation. In Obama’s earmark disclosure you will find:


In 2006, Obama requested that Will County receive $1.3 million to support its Flood Studies for Unincorporated Will County.

In 2006, Obama requested $800,000 for the Will County Sheriff’s Office Wireless Communications Technology Upgrades.

In 2006, Obama requested $1,953,331 for Will County’s Ridgewood Water and Sewage Project.

In 2005, Obama requested $2 million for the Lewis University in Romeoville, Illinois, to establish a Center for Academic and Community Learning, which is designed to address the significant educational needs of the less advantaged in the Will County region by providing academic assistance not only for students on campus but also for residents of the surrounding communities.


Another reference appears to relate to the Will County Health Department’s mental health program which I am informed got another $1.95 million.

Tony Rezko has been convicted of bribery. Most of the charges against him involve the governor, Rod Blagojevich. The other charges against him (wire fraud) have nothing to do with politics. None of those charges have anything to do with Obama. If you would bother to read the Fox news story to which you provided a link, it pretty much absolves Obama of any involvement.

To make things clear, Rezko is in jail because he tried to extort money from associations trying to do business with the state and for setting up a phony sale of his restaurant business in order to obtain a loan.

This is a man that Obama has ties to, he got him to purchase the land next to his house so he could buy the house...I stand firm, Obama has shady associates!

BTW..that was one of the list of 9m, did you give up after one?

Yep, they are close enough buds to be doing real estate deals together.

Oh, wait! Silly us - Rezko is just a guy in his neighborhood!

Guess that means he is in Ayers neighborhood as well!

I find it interesting that Palin's 'abuse of power' involved trying to get rid of a dirty cop and Obama's 'abuse of power' - IMHO - is all the money he was sliding to his homeboys back in the burbs of Chicago.

Good posts kolu and wowitsdark. I do remember all the attacks against the US before 9/11. Haven't embassies been bombed? WTC in 93 (I think), the USS Cole (one my godson was in bootcamp with one of those men that got killed.), etc... Unfortunately we didn't get Bin Laden when we had the chance under Clinton, A friend of mine was in Iraq for over a year shortly after the intial confrontation. He thought it was a good idea. He saw things start to improve for the people. Hopefully in the long run it will prove to have been worthwhile. People have to be very, very careful in saying no wars, no actions, etc.... All you have to do is remember Hitler. What's the saying-all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing. Sadam was certainly an evil man.

They would rather send 845 Billion to the UN again to abuse like they did with oil for food, than actually help a nation remove a tryant that enslaved so many of their people. But I can't really blame them, I mean look at all the brainwashing they have endured from the press.

Ya know, I know we like to say that hindsight is 20/20, but I really don't know that it is. I, too, have been critical of Clinton for not getting Obama when he had the chance, but for all we know that would've outraged a number of Islamic terrorists and we'd have been in worse shape than *just* what happened on 9/11. The terrorists that attacked us that day had been here for ages planning and plotting that particular attack. There was great concern that news of OBL's death would start a huge domino train that he'd put in place... and if that was true, it was probably true during the Clinton administration.

There really *is* no valid method to know the outcome of the road not taken, nor is there a fabulous way to divine the future when you go with the option that appears to be the best.

I think wisdom would have us proceed with integrity and honor, or follow and lead those for whom honor is a priority. The ones who pitched the loudest fit at our invading Iraq were Russia and France... and it was determined that they had been buying food stores from Saddam... food that was given to him in exchange for oil... food, rather than cash, because he was under sanctions and the UN had declared him not to be able to receive cash in exchange for any commodity but that he *was* able to trade for *food* as a means to keep him from having cash in his hands and to ensure that the people of Iraq were fed.

Kind of like the way we give food stamps instead of cash.

But Russia and France cut a back door deal with him - illegally - and offered to buy that food from Iraq, the food that was supposed to feed the Iraqi people - on the cheap. It was a sweet deal. They got cheap food, he got his pockets lined with cash, and he built more and more palaces with the money.

So we went to the UN and Russia and France got all out of kilter at the idea of the UN enforcing the cease fire agreement and said *we* were the bad guys for being so hard on poor Saddam Hussein. A number of countries were on our side - and those were the nations who hadn't been in bed with Saddam and buying UN-driven food on the cheap.

You are right on the money with this post. It would have been very dangerous to go after Bin Laden. He was basically a CIA operative for years. And we pretty much escorted him out of Afghanastan into Pakistan. They don't want to kill Bin Laden and make him a martyr for his cause. The people under him are much scarier than even he is.

Again.. .right on the money with Russia and France. . .always follow the money trail. . .there are the real answers.

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I did support the intervention in Afghanistan, and still do think this was the right move.

The problem isn't going into Afghanistan and hunting down OBL. I was all for that.

Iraq? That's a whole new story.

The war in Iraq has hurt our efforts in finding OBL, IMHO. Iraq has split our resources. The war in Iraq had no justification and just left us with a bloody nose when we tried to talk, with any authority, as to why we not only believed in our position but could back it up with military might.

When the US was sparring with Iran this last few years, did you really think that the possible treat of military intervention had any weight? Of course it didn't. Our military weight was sqandered in Iraq.

I also don't see why we went to war with Iraq.

I opposed the war in Iraq. I opposed it then and I oppose it now. I didn't the need for this war. The war all was presupposed on weapons of mass destruction, and it seemed that the basis for believing that they existed was a lack of evidence that they didn't exist.

But, with emotions running high and our faith in the government being firm, most people couldn't imagine that our government would mislead us into thinking that Iraq posed more of a threat than it did.

But, as it turns out, those they didn't exist. Those WMD? They didn't exist.

You say how we should have gone in, because life was hard for the folks in Iraq. True, life was hard. Its hard in a lot of places. And, unfortunately, we have our military dying because life is hard there.

So, for me, I didn't think that we should go into Iraq after 9/11. I didn't think that there was sufficient evidence of WMD. I didn't think that we should go into Iraq to rebuild nations.

In short, when I believed that the government was telling me the truth, I thought that the war in Iraq was wanton. Now, I think that it was a vanity war.

If it ends up well on any level, I'll embrace the good results. Bad things can lead to little roses and all that.

But I have no question in my mind that this wasn't the right path for the US.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden want to. They even said it in those exact words. "We will kill Bin Laden". I don't know about anyone else, but, I was rather shocked to hear a candidate say he wanted to kill someone. Can't that be considered pre-meditated murder?? I know, a long shot, but, I just can't believe those words would come from their mouth.....

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If McCain said anything other than he thought OBL should be dead, that would surprise me. And if you think that McCain thinks that killing OBL is wrong, that's a big surprise to me.

This was one of the few issues that I thought the parties were united on.

But if McCain or those of you on your side think that killing OBL is "premeditated murder," speak up now.

I'm a liberal. I'm a big "L" liberal. I'm not going to cry if Bin Laden is killed by American forces. If he is captured, I think he should go through our justice system. And then, when convicted, he should face the consequences of it.

So, where is the problem by Obama or Biden saying that Bin Laden should be killed? He should. This is the first time that I ever read a post saying otherwise. Quelle surprise, it was from a conservative attacking a liberal.

Seriously, you are attacking Obama and Biden for wanting Osama bin Laden dead?

Well, ok. I think that I'm in "Alice and the Looking Glass."

The one thing that I've thought that we were all united on in our military might was killing this guy. Now, it's "premeditated murder"?

It so isn't. You are willing to engage in a blanketed war in Iraq but you contend that killing OSB is "premeditated murder."

I don't even know how to respond to that.

Except that it's stupid.

Just bloody ****ing stupid.

You know, meet me on the other side of the looking glass. Where things aren't warped by your desire for a certain outcome for this election. Because, for the life of me, the thought that the Democrats are too hard on OBL because they would like to kill him, is just utterly, utterly bizarre.

As my BIL once said, what is the color of the sun in your world?

Dannyboy. I simply loved everything you said and so from one proud very left winged liberal Democrat to another thanks for the post, everything you said was right on target. Again 11/4 cannot come fast enough for me to vote Obama. Biden all the way to get this country our wonderful country of America we call home, good riddens to Bush and Cheney for good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. ... Catherine

Anybody interested in the list of Dems who said Hussain has wmd's and he had to be taken care of...oh how quickly we forget.....IMO we havent been attacked since...and why do we care what country we have alienated...they all come to us the Good ole USA for help....They need us Way more than we need them.....YOu all can crucify me if you want...but I still have respect for GW Bush...I believe he did what he thought needed to be done at the time....He took on the terrorist which Clinton didnt have the guts to do.....GW wasnt afraid to make the hard decisions when the time came...but when hard times come and Obama is Pres...he is going to talk to them.....Yea right I can just see him talking to Pres of Iran, Pres of KOrea and Hamas and them giving a crap what he says....The only mistake Bush made was to try and fight a policitally correct war....go in get the job done and get out...Sherri

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Sorry but totally disagree again, we had no business going to war with Iraq. Because now when we retreat does anyone realize how much bloodshed will will shed on our troops and innocent people in Iraq. Omg does anyone get the picture.... Catherine

It took me awhile to make my way through your post. All those ellipses really interfered.

If I can summarise, you love GWB. You think that he took on terrorists. You don't think Obama will. You think that those of us who object to this war do so on politically correct grounds.

Did I summarize it right? I'll respond but I need to understand first.

So, did I get your point right?

Yes, good old Bush. He will certainly go down in history for bankrupting our country, making extremely poor decisions on the war, alienating the U.S. from the rest of the world, etc.

Obama did not say he was going to sit down with the President of Iran, Korea, etc. This is also taken out of context.

So the only mistake Bush made was to fight a politically correct war!......He didn't even have a plan to get out! We are all paying for his mistakes.

My point is that I have respect for GWB...no I dont Love everything he has done but I have respect for him...No I dont think Obama will take on the terrorist or the seriously dangerous people in this world....he wants to talk to them??????? I am saying all the Dems now blame GWB for the war, yet they made statements long before GWB took office, saying Saddam had WMD"S and he had to be dealt with...they voted for the war and now its all Bush's fault...I believe Bush stands firm on what he believes and I do respect him for it....Is that so hard to understand???? Sorry for all the ellipses, I must be an ignornant person who you cant understand.... You must be so much smarter than I.....I know there are many people who oppose the war for many different reasons....and that is their right....just like I have the right to my beliefs....Need it any clearer??????

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What I think Bush has done wrong was to treat both sides like a Daddy who spoils his children, he never said no..to anyone, no matter how many times the dems would kick him in the head after the fact. He started right out of the gate with kennedy's no child left behind, Kennedy penned the bill! Now that it's a disaster..oh no..it was Bush...and so it went over & over through his years.

Allow me to elaborate on my post. We all want OBL dead, there is no doubt there. Ok, except for the people who think the only person who can take a life is God, but, please let's not go there right now. I know McCain wants him dead. The surprise I had was in hearing these exact words uttered from a person's mouth. It's one thing to think it, but to actually put it in words is, well, a little disturbing.

I think most people would agree that it is not something you should hear from a person's mouth "I will kill so and so".

Make no mistake about it, I live in the real world. And had John McCain came out and said "we will kill him" I would be just as disturbed.

You know....it's funny.....a lot of you Liberals were so up in arms over protestors yelling to kill Obama and off with his head, but, you have no problem at all with your own candidates saying that they will kill someone, albeit a very evil person.

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I'd like to know where all the praise is for Bush now that gas prices are coming down so dramatically??!! When they were rising, oh that evil Bush....he's so awful, isn't he???

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