How do you feel about the campaign promise from McCain regarding balancing the budget by the end of his term in office?

He promises to balance the budget but no answers as to how he is going to accomplish this without raising taxes. Getting rid of the pork alone is NOT enough in my opinion.

I figure McCain will try but not be able to ..think the same with Obama's plan for afforable health care.


The only way to balance the budget is to do massive spending cuts across the board... social programs, military (overseas spending), etc.

It is not a real promise. He has given us no plan for achieving it.

I don't trust the Repuplicans to balance the budget. I actually wonder if they care. This administration ran up huge deficits. Clinton didn't. But who is the proverbial devil in a blue dress?

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Does that blue dress have a stain on it?

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YOu really don't get it do you danny...I personally don't give a crap about that blue dress, what I DID give a crap about was this list of gates that went on during Clintons administration...

sheild yourself, maybe you want to stop reading now...I wouldn't want to shatter your perfect vision of your perfect president..


A is for Arkansas, where Bill Clinton got his political start, where Hillary Rodham Clinton worked at Rose Law Firm, and where Whitewater began as a land deal between the Clintons and Jim and Susan McDougal.

B is for Billing-gate, Hillary Clinton's missing law-billing records. Those records -- which raised questions about Mrs. Clinton's role in the Castle Grande deal -- were subpoenaed in 1994. They were missing until early 1996, when they turned up in a White House room next to her office. She says she doesn't know how they got there.

C is for Cattlegate, Hillary Clinton's mysterious ability to turn a $1,000 investment into a $100,000 profit on cattle futures, a feat experts say was virtually impossible in normal trading.

C is also for Castle Grande, a real-estate scheme that federal regulators say was a sham. A federal inspector general's report found Hillary Clinton drew up the legal papers that were used to improperly funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to Seth Ward, father-in-law of her ex-law partner Webster Hubbell.

D is for Billy Dale, the career head of the White House Travel Office, who was fired along with six other career staffers, to make way for Clinton cronies in Travelgate. The White House then brought in the FBI to justify the firing, and Dale was hit with criminal charges that wrecked his life for two years. A jury cleared him in just two hours.

E is for Mike Espy, the former agriculture secretary who was forced out over charges that he got gifts and favors from Arkansas-based Tyson foods, whose owners were longtime Clinton backers. A special counsel has brought several indictments, though not against Espy.

F is for Filegate, the improper White House rummaging through 900 FBI files on Republican officials in the Bush and Reagan administration. The White House says it was an innocent snafu. Republicans suspect an enemies list. Whitewater independent counsel Ken Starr and several congressional committees are probing.

G is for Golfgate, ex-White House aide David Watkins' improper use of presidential helicopters for a personal golf outing. He was forced to resign. In the 1992 presidential campaign, Clinton aides tried to use taxpayer funds to help settle a sexual harassment case filed by a fellow campaign worker against Watkins.

H is for Hillary Clinton, whose role has been questioned in Filegate, Travelgate, Billing-gate, Whitewater and Castle Grande. She denies any wrongdoing.

H is also for Hubbell, in jail after pleading guilty to bilking law clients on charges brought by Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Hubbell was previously the associate attorney general, the No. 3 Justice Department office.

I is for Indonesiagate, featuring the Lippo group, a firm with long-standing ties to Bill Clinton, Clinton cronies and Arkansas. Republicans want to know why an Indonesian couple -- of apparently modest means -- with ties to Lippo gave $452,000 to the Democratic National Committee and what the firm may have gotten in return. Lippo also hired Hubbell, at a reported fee of $250,000, for the five months when he left the White House and went to jail.

J is for Paula Jones, who accuses President Clinton of sexual harassment, saying he dropped his pants and asked for oral sex in an Arkansas hotel room while he was governor and she was a state employee. The U.S. Supreme Court will rule this fall on whether her case must wait until after Clinton leaves office, as he demands.

K is for William Kennedy, another ex-Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was forced to resign after concealing his failure to pay nanny taxes. He was reprimanded for his role in Travelgate.

L is for Craig Livingstone, the ex-bar bouncer with a history of drug use who was the head of White House security. Two FBI agents say it was Hillary Clinton who demanded his hiring, which she denies. Disgraced Clinton political guru Dick Morris's hooker pal, Sherry Rowlands, claims Morris told her a "paranoid" Hillary Clinton was behind Filegate. He says he only told her that's what polls show.

M is for Jim and Susan McDougal, the Clintons' Whitewater partners, both of whom have been convicted of fraud. Jim McDougal is said to be helping Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Susan McDougal is in jail for refusing to say whether President Clinton lied when he denied knowing about an illegal $300,000 loan to bail out Whitewater. The loan wasn't repaid, and taxpayers were left holding the bag.

M is also for disgraced political guru Dick Morris.

N is for Bernard Nussbaum, the former White House lawyer who barred federal investigators from searching Vince Foster's office after Foster's death. Nussbaum also withheld Foster's diary on Travelgate problems from federal probers for more than a year. Nussbaum was forced to resign for botching damage-control efforts.

O is for Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, the frequent flier who drew up an enemies list of reporters, hired an image consultant at taxpayer expense, and has run up huge tabs on overseas trips.

P is for Pardons, which President Clinton has refused to rule out for individuals like Susan McDougal who potentially could provide evidence against him.

P is also for White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, expected to leave in a second Clinton term -- with the prospect that his deputy, Harold Ickes, could replaces him. Senate Republicans want perjury charges brought against Ickes for his answers on Whitewater damage control.

Q is for all the questions -- unanswered -- on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, Cattlegate and Billgate.

R is for Sherry Rowlands, the $200-an-hour hooker who revealed her ongoing affair with Clinton political guru Dick Morris, the author of Clinton's family-values strategy, forcing Morris to resign.

R is also for the Rose Law Firm, where Hillary Clinton, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell and William Kennedy were partners, as was Joseph Giroir, a key figure in the Lippo group.

S is for Kenneth Starr, the Whitewater independent counsel probing Filegate, Travelgate and Vince Foster's death. He has won 15 convictions or guilty pleas, including both McDougals and former Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker, who was forced to resign. Starr says his probes are active and ongoing, and there is widespread speculation he will have more indictments after the election, possibly including one of Hillary Clinton.

T is for Travelgate, the Clintons' firing of career travel staffers like Billy Dale to make way for Clinton cronies. White House memos say Hillary Clinton was behind the firings -- she denies it -- and that she was spurred on by Clinton Hollywood pal Harry Thomason, who was seeking a piece of the lucrative White House charter business.

U is for undue influence and the question of whether that is what Lippo was seeking though megabucks contributions to Democrats. Lippo has close ties to Indonesia's brutal dictatorship, responsible for near-genocide in East Timor, which it occupied two decades ago.

V is for Vince Foster, the former Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was found dead, an apparent suicide with a gunshot wound to the head. He apparently was a central figure in Travelgate and Filegate and handled Whitewater matters for the Clintons. Starr is examining his death and has yet to confirm former prober Bob Fiske's conclusion that it was a suicide in the park where Foster was found.

W is for Whitewater, the Arkansas land deal that started it all, with questions about whether the Clintons improperly benefitted from funds Jim McDougal's Madison Guarantee savings-and-loan, which went belly up, costing taxpayers an estimated $60 million.

X is for the Xeroxed copy of Hillary Clinton's law billing records that were found in the white House book room, two years after they were first sought. The pages had Mrs. Clinton's fingerprints around the section on Castle Grande - there were red ink notations in the late Vince Foster's handwriting.

Y is for the the young White House aides who were hired by the Clinton administration despite FBI background checks that found "recent" use of hard drugs like cocaine, crack and hallucinogens.

Z is for zippers -- the one Paula Jones claims that the then-Arkansas governor undid (see J) and the one Gennifer Flowers claims Clinton undid during what she insists was a long-running affair. He denies the claims.

[Source: The New York Post, Wednesday October 16, 1996]

This list is missing quite a few things, off the top of my head.. Monicagate, Wag the doggate, Sandy Burglargate, Mark Richgate.....

I do not trust the Repuplicans now , never ever. Obama and Biden all the way and they alone will restore our beautiful country we call home America.... CAtherine

Oh, my. So much time and effort. For an adminstration that was eight years past.

Read this alphabet. It's all about Clinton, Bill and Hillary.

I'm not seeing anything about our current candidates. I'm actually not seeing anything that bears remotely on our current candidates.

I hate to break to you. Neither Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton are running. So, take your pretty little poems, tuck them in with you, and ask yourself where it means anything. Or at least find some other basis for objecting to Obama other than a very outdated poem. Which kinda sucked in its infancy.

Dannyboy keep posting your speaking truth in volumns... proud to be a left winged liberal democrat... Peace... CAtherine

What's a volumn and how does it speak?

kolu, you're sizzlin' today! And yes, I dropped the 'g' from the end of the word I was sayin' in honor of the lovely Governor Palin.

To speak very loud, or do you need a dictionary, stop being so nasty, can you not post something nice but pick on other people's way of talking or writing?????Catherine

Is volumn in the dictionary?

Do you care? And if you do, why?

There's my Dannyboy thanks so much and I am very proud to be on your side , I love all your posts. Everything you have spoken so far makes so much sense, commen sense. So looking forward to November 4th when I know Obama and Biden will take the cake and lead our great nation and bring us back from the total mess the Bush Administration put us under.... Peace to you always.... Catherine

Of course I care - I'm a compassionate conservative!

Oh - did you mean about the word 'volumn'?

I've been scratching my head about some things said on the Cafe for a number of weeks now, things that simply don't add up or ring true. I found myself stuck between feeling humored and disbelief, but in the end came to the conclusion that what was presented simply couldn't be real...

wowitsdark, what about cannot be true, Here you have the table exlpain your exlpanation to me...Go ahead. I am listening.... Catherine

Noticed how I spelled explain . Cmon I am waiting spill the beans, are you calling me a liar of some sorts. I am waiting for a reply. Catherine

I don't know if this will help clarify things or not, but I don't even know what the Cafe is. Really I don't. Please don't attribute my remarks to anything there, because I really don't even know what the Cafe is. Seriously, it is a blank slate to me.

Wowitsdark Dannyboy is referring to the site on this board called the cafe. hth. I post there alot and it seems I bother her there as well as here. Oh well.... Catherine

Danny, nobody would have uttered the word clinton if you hadn't...but, ya know, once that barn door is open..

You sure she didn't mean valium?

kolu I am sure I did not mean Valium ouch ouch you some of you ladies are just plain mean, I sincerely hope you are not finding humour in all this, however sincerely I think you do, truly sad. Me and others cannot have our own thoughts or views, and if we do we are considered drug addicts, racists, chatty cathy's or gay... you have a real nice way of posting or should I say getting even because we disagree on whom shall be the new president. SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE MADE ARE NOT NICE!!!!. Catherine.

They will restore our beautiful country we call home America??? LOL!! Obama and Biden??

Wow, you ARE drinking the koolaid, aren't you?

The harpies are gathering. Maybe it's because it's so close to Halloween. Nah! One of them spotted a word that was not spelled correctly. Let the feasting begin.

Running scared and desperate they just get meaner and meaner .... just like their candidates!

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I just find it difficult to take seriously a poster who occasionally posts extremely coherant, well-written, punctuated, thought-provoking posts....

and then at other times on this beautiful wonderful board we call mycoupons let me tell you if you were not being so mean to me it would be much much nicer but why did you say that because I am NOT a bad person other people who have the same opinions as me say I am good so I am sorry what are you saying to me? Shalom.

I end up distracted by the delivery and the message gets lost in space somewhere. If it seems I'm trying to be mean, the truth is... I'm not. Unlike marilynk, I *do* tend to mentally keep track of who said what and not just *what* was said, and when the personality style of an individual poster can swing from being very 'together' to rather spacey and erratic, I can't help but assume that the spacey and erratic persona was created for entertainment purposes.

Well, you know what happens when you assume things.....

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Have the courage to be yourself.

Ok so now I am spacey and erratic, ok anything else you got to say about me. Listen we are all under stree here from this election does everything have to become so negative and mean spritied, can we not just agree to disagree. . Catherine

Two points from me. First I envy your ability to keep track of who posts and in what manner. I do remember in general for some of you, but I suspect that my mind works on a more visual level. I feel that I probably need faces to put with the names to help me keep who said what straight. But frankly, I'm not sure that would work either. So I tend to take each post on it's own to some extent.

Second. I'm not talking about anyone in particular with this comment, because the problem seems to afflict more than a few on here, but there "may" be reasons, other than entertainment, for posts being erratic and different sounding. There may be meds involved. There may be other stress factors involved. But to start a to-do over an incorrectly spelled word is petty. We all misspell things at times, including you. And if someone posts in an erratic fashion, then you could ignore them until they post coherently.