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Real Debate Wisconsin: Racine schools hand out textbook with 15 page Obama love-fest...

"Did the teacher give equal time and a fair discussion about John McCain and his "life of service"? I think I already know the answer to that question. This is not education folks, this is indoctrination.

.."My 8th grade son is in an advanced English class at a public middle school here in Racine, Wisconsin. I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama.

I was shocked - No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush - Just Barack Obama. I'm wondering how it is that Obama's story gets put into an 8th grade literature book? It would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his "Life of Service". Honestly, what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background! Front & center is an obama barack barak for president at obama2004.com sign."

.."If you would like to see the 15 page story on Obama, it appears that you can order this book online. There is a note in the book that says, For more on Barack Obama, visit the Literature Center at ClassZone The book is: Wisconsin - 8th grade - McDougal Littell Literature - copyright 2008. The Obama story starts on page 830. I hope you will take the time to look at this book. I'm really angry about this - In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book.

By the way, you might find this interesting: I did a little checking on McDougal Littell, and it appears that MCDOUGAL, ALFRED L CHICAGO , IL 60611 - N/A/RETIRED has been making contributions to Barack Obama's campaign!"

another website
Wow! 15 whole pages are devoted to Obama in 8th Grade Textbook… : P.U.M.A
Also videos on that site

This material was printed and released long before anyone knew Obama would be the Democratic nominee. But, I'm sure the conspiricy theroist will have a ball with this one.

Less than a month to go....you would think people's arms would be tired from all the "reaching" at this point.

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More sheer stupidity and ignorance from the haters. It's not a story about Obama, it's his speech from the 2004 convention, printed in a literature book. Gosh, big surprise, the speech is accompanied by pictures of him making the speech. Oh, it's a conspiracy!

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First we had little children singing the praises of Obama and now this. Hmm... what's next in line for indoctrination of our children?

I'm glad people are bringing things like this to light. I have a feeling there's plenty more out there, too. Never in my lifetime have I seen such a cult-like following of a mere man.

Again with the stupid remarks. What about the people that admire him is cult-like? Defend your words that you throw around so freely. What is a cult about people that admire and respect him?

Go ahead. We're waiting. Or are your hands too full of mud and dung to type right now?

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Yes, this was not put together after he announced his candidacy...but McCain supporters are running scared and grabbing at anything to try and hang Senator Obama with. And, Senator Obama had nothing to do with this publication. AND....eighth graders vote in not a single state in this nation (unless they have been retained for 5 years or so). This is false outrage over frustration over a pending loss of the Presidency.

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Does anyone know if the full 15 pages is posted somewhere on the internet?

ETA: Some think this is cult like with the children
http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/04/it-...idolizing-him/
http://www.puma08.com/2008/09/30/cre...day-i-promise/

I do not blame Obama for this stuff..but blame his supporters for going overboard.
Of course, Obama should say something..just like people expected McCain to say something about comments at his rally.

What, exactly, should Obama say? "Thanks for printing my speech?" How the heck do you figure that a speech which promoted unity is REMOTELY like the filthy hatred spewed by some at the McCain/Palin rallies?

Nuts. Blame his supporters? FOR WHAT? WHAT DO YOU BLAME HIS SUPPORTERS FOR, EXACTLY?

We're waiting for you to explain your baseless accusations.

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"Don't cry for me Argentina...." Do you all know the story of Evita Peron? For some reason this song was playing in my head when I read this. Obama.......much ado about nothing.

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Why? Why is it needed for him to "say something?" His speech was brilliant. It didn't incite violence. And last time that I looked, 8th graders weren't voting in this election.

It also didn't surprise me that a political speech was included in the book. I had to study political speeches in school as part of persuasive writing.

Also, does anyone else know what else is in this book? According to the person reporting the inclusion of this speech, it was on page 847. So, that's a long book. What else is in there? What is the context of the inclusion of the piece?

I understand it isn't just his speech contained in those 15 pages. But all about his "Life of Service".
Blame his supporters ...the teachers, etc that are Obama supporters for teaching the children the marching steps, songs etc about Obama

Please tell me that you would find NOTHING wrong with children being taught songs, marching, etc about President BUSH. Our wonderous leader! Chatting his name, etc.

Learning to BLINDLY follow someone is insane. Look at the other places that do this. North Korea a good example.

ETA His speech does not take 15 full pages..I would like to see ALL that is included in those pages. That is why I asked if anyone knew if the entire thing was online yet.

Maybe you should try reading about Eva Peron -- she was far from "nothing." But that wouldn't fit in with your cutesy little song joke, would it?

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You know what's insane? That you think anyone with a brain believes the garbage you post.

You're uninformed or you're lying. I don't care which, it's the same result in your posts -- complete disregard for the facts. Try reading about what you're spewing before you let fingers hit the keyboard.

Your disgusting insult that people that admire Obama are following him blindly is childish and stupid. How about some proof? I know you and your buds like to throw out that accusation without a shred of documentation. Try supporting that ignorant allegation. We're waiting.

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I never said that his supporters were blindly following him. BUT that teaching the children to blindly follow is wrong.
Fact that this video is true. Did you watch it? Or watch the other video.
It was bound to happen… Video of “Obama’s Brownshirts” idolizing him… : P.U.M.A

I noticed you didn't response to this
"Please tell me that you would find NOTHING wrong with children being taught songs, marching, etc about President BUSH. Our wonderous leader! Chatting his name, etc."

SO touchy truble...

I've read about her, watched documentaries....and saw the musical. lol I know Eva Peron was not "nothing" but she wasn't honest. She came from nothing. She seemed so sincere though.....

Now I have the Evita chant in my head. replace "Obama, Obama, Obama"

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Spare me. Who taught children to follow blindly? No one. Such lies you throw out there. How stupid do you think people are?

You're so full of lies and garbage. No, I don't watch propaganda that you throw up. What would be the point? Any fool can make a you tube tape -- it proves nothing one way or the other.

I don't answer questions based on false assumptions. It's more garbage. I won't take your rancid bait.

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Oh, you saw the MUSICAL! Well, then, that answers the question.

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NO ANSWER as usual.
Scared I am not..maybe you are if you can not bring yourself to watch a video that a teacher (Obama supporter) got suspended for.
How can a liberal ever be informed if they refuse to look at all that is in front of them?

Maybe, maybe not. You even admit you have not seen it. Yet your whole post is made under the assumption that what you read is true. Especially your first post.

Sen Obama's 2004 keynote speech is quite long. American Rhetoric: Barack Obama -- 2004 Democratic National Convention Keynote Address
The first page of this book you cite has this portion of the speech:
The rest of the page is filled with a large picture. Perhaps the other pages has bits of the speech along with a picture too.

The same can be said about you and your support for Ron Paul. You obviously believe in him and his ideals. Are you BLIND?

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Gosh, where to begin about the cult-like mentality of Obama followers and Obama seems to be caught up in it, too. Here's just one article from ABC news about it and this was back in February of this year. There's tons of articles about it. Obviously, the libs are just too starstruck to see it. I'll highlight some of the important parts so you won't have to read it all.

Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper

Jake Tapper is ABC News' Senior National Correspondent based in the network's Washington bureau. He writes about politics and popular culture and covers a range of national stories.



And Obama Wept
February 07, 2008 9:43 AM

Inspiration is nice. But some folks seem to be getting out of hand.

It's as if Tom Daschle descended from on high saying, "Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat."

Obama supporter Kathleen Geier writes that she's "getting increasingly weirded out by some of Obama's supporters. On listservs I'm on, some people who should know better – hard-bitten, not-so-young cynics, even – are gushing about Barack…

Describing various encounters with Obama supporters, she writes, "Excuse me, but this sounds more like a cult than a political campaign. The language used here is the language of evangelical Christianity – the Obama volunteers speak of 'coming to Obama' in the same way born-again Christians talk about 'coming to Jesus.'...So I say, we should all get a grip, stop all this unseemly mooning over Barack, see him and the political landscape he is a part of in a cooler, clearer, and more realistic light, and get to work."

Joe Klein, writing at Time, notes "something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism" he sees in Obama's Super Tuesday speech.
"We are the ones we've been waiting for," Obama said. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It's different not because of me. It's different because of you."

Says Klein: "That is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: the campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause — other than an amorphous desire for change — the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is. “

The always interesting James Wolcott writes that "(p)erhaps it's my atheism at work but I found myself increasingly wary of and resistant to the salvational fervor of the Obama campaign, the idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria. I can picture President Hillary in the White House dealing with a recalcitrant Republican faction; I can't picture President Obama in the same role because his summons to history and call to hope seems to transcend legislative maneuvers and horse-trading; his charisma is on a more ethereal plane, and I don't look to politics for transcendence and self-certification."

Then there's MSNBC's Chris Matthews who tells Felix Gillette in the New York Observer, “I’ve been following politics since I was about 5. I’ve never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament."
And behold, Obama met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.
The Holy Season of Lent is upon us. Can Obama worshippers try to give up their Helter-Skelter cult-ish qualities for a few weeks?
At least until Easter, or the Pennsylvania primary, whichever comes first...

- jpt

UPDATE: Let me be clear: I'm not saying there shouldn't be enthusiasm in politics. I'm merely touching on the fact that some Obama supporters' exhuberance seems to be getting a little out of hand. Obama himself joked about this at a Hollywood fundraiser, as noted in Men's Vogue:
“When Morgan Freeman comes over to greet Obama, the senator begins bowing down both hands in worship. ‘This guy was president before I was,’ says Obama, referring to Freeman's turn in Deep Impact and, clearly, getting a little ahead of his own bio. Next, a nod to Bruce Almighty: ‘This guy was God before I was.’”

Gotta love the "Helter-Skelter'" reference!

Oh yeah, and then there are the McCain supporters who believe that the real God needs to come out and show that he is the biggest swinging God in the neighborhood.

McCain Pastor: My God Is Bigger than Your God - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime

I saw this. Crazy people believe crazier things, don't they?

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"In context" I can see where they were trying to include this information in the book.

"The selection in question is part of a larger unit centered around the question, 'If the people within a community accept each others' difference, how do individuals and their community benefit and prosper?'" the statement continued. "The selections, 'Dreams of My Father' and 'Out of Many, One,' fit into the curriculum by requiring students to engage in the central question around these and other selections."
Obama's passage appears in the textbook along with noted authors and thinkers, including Maya Angelou, Isaac Asimov and Emily Dickinson, according to ClassZone.com, which is the online educational supplement to the book.

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but the last little bit of the story posted has me surprised.

A spokesman for Houghton Mifflin said Obama's passage appeared in its national edition of the 2008 textbook, but that the decision to include his writings occurred in 2005, before the Illinois politician decided to run for president.

"The more recent editions bearing 2009 copyrights of these books, published in 2008, do not include the selection," Richard Blake told FOXNews.com. "Once it was known that he was running for president, the selections were removed."

What changed? - Why remove now? He was a Democratic Political Candidate then and is still now.

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Here is some more information and pages that are in the book
Not just Obama's speech. I will post a link if I find a source that has all 15 pages.

Obama Pushed on Our Kids in 8th Grade Textbook | NewsBusters.org

You can enlarge the pages on that website above and read some of the pages.

I have usually have found that the most awful things are often found out of context and when I look at things in context, it makes sense and changes the whole meaning.

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My first post was of quotes from the article I linked to.
My only words "This is breaking news around the internet today.
The information is coming from this website that posted the information first.
Pictur of textbook also in article."


I do not blindly follow Ron Paul I have stated there are some things I do not agree with him on. I actually have read/listen to his Paul's article's from 20 plus years ago. I have read serveal of his books. Some I agree with , others I do not.

ETA: Here is some more information and pages that are in the book
Not just Obama's speech. I will post a link if I find a source that has all 15 pages.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...s-lit-textbook

I was wondering the same thing. . .I'd like to see the whole book. Is Kennedy's Berlin speech included? Is MLK's I Have a Dream speech included. Those should definitely be in there! I do find it weird that these speeches are attributed to the deliverers instead of the speechwriters. Does anyone know if Obama actually wrote that speech?

On a personal note. . .I do find some of the Obama fervor to be creepy.

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You know, I would give you more creedence if you wrote these thoughts but you copied someone elses and then use it to make your point. Everytime someone does this, I think that they are blindly following the Google God. They just search Google until they find something that meets their particular point they would like to make and then they copy and paste. It is an interesting phenom.

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You are not certain of the context of the pages yet you want Obama to speak out against it. If you are still trying to find out more info yourself, what exactly do you want him to speak out about?

That's great. So is it possible that Obama supporters are like you, and do not follow BLINDLY as you suggested above?

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The fervor aside, my questions arise from Mr. Obama's rapid rise to power (so to speak). Granted, I have not been a huge politico follower, but could someone/anyone please provide some other potential President who went from relative obscurity to the limelight in such a short time frame? One other thing is where has the money come from? Has Obama been groomed from his early days in college by people or several groups of people to be "their" man in power? I honestly don't know the answers to any of my questions. And I don't know if anyone can provide the answers or proof if you will...

I hope that whoever wins this election is truly the best candidate and is the best person to lead our country.

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I don't know....how about RFK, or his brother Bobby? How about MLK? All wonderful speakers who also had to overcome hostility from the other side of the fence.

I just wonder if Obama does win....will all of you that supported the early days of Bush (yes, I know a bunch of you voted for him...some twice) actually practice what you preach? You remeber, when you told people like me that I should show respect because he's the President of the United States and I was less of a patriot if I bad mouthed him?


Should be really interesting.

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I've read books, and watched documentaries.....did you miss that part? silly girl.

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As a supporter of Senator Obama I find the right wing fervor over him way creepy too. Positively squirrely

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Palin is the obvious answer about those who have come from relative obscurity to the limelight in a short period of time. Her rise to ascendancy has been a matter of a few months. Obama has been vetted and turned inside out and faced the press for a much, much longer period of time. He is also willing to talk to the press.

As far as prior precedents before this election, I don't know. I'm sure that you could find the answer if this matters to you.

Just off the top of my head, Robert Kennedy was 36 or so when he became Attorney General. I think that he was 43 when he was assassinated.

I will say that I don't remember as fast as star as Obama in my lifetime, other than Palin, of course. I also don't remember a candidate who is as old and established as McCain. I actually don't say the latter as a criticism. It's a fact. He's 72, I think. He has been an elected official on the national level for over 25 years.

Maybe Obama is too untried for you. For me, McCain is tried, fried, and left wanting. I'm hoping for the future. It isn't McCain, for me.

The speech I remember the most was delivered by Ronald Reagan.

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

That event truly changed history. Is it in the book?

Marilyn, I often don't agree with you, but on your point above, I do. It's extremely unusual for someone to rise so quickly. I know the left will see this as nitpicking, but he voted present way too often to have made his mark in any way. He hasn't been in congress long enough to have some long history of pushing through an agenda successfully. Those are the sorts of proving ground points that should make a political party stand up and take notice and get behind a candidate with great fervor - not just his theoretical agreement with them and his ability to articulate them, but a history of accomplishing things and standing for things.

It could be argued that Clinton's downfall was related to his inexperience and lack of savvy when it came to behaving presidentially and assembling people around him who had substance that can only come from experience. Bush certainly came to office with connections to people with experience through his father, but his lack of judgment when it came to military matters and inability to take solid advice offered by military leaders cost lives and prolonged military conflict unnecessarily. Once he wised up to that things got better... but it certainly didn't happen overnight.

One would think that our recent past would bring a lightbulb moment for all of us. Certainly, though I adore Palin, I wouldn't want her at the top of the ticket at this juncture in her career.

But the Obama phenomena... I just don't get it.

Actually, I think I do get it. I know the left screams voo-doo when the name Ayers is mentioned, but it is true that he launched his political career in Ayers living room. That doesn't make Obama a terrorist or anything of the sort, but what it does say - to me, anyway - is that he had backers who wanted to see him go national. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, the Ayers backing began when he was just running for office in Illinois - not as a US Senator. Yes, they were both Chicago residents, but Ayers long-term interests had been primarily about bigger politics than *just* Chicago.

I remember reading that early on in his community organizer days, Obama was encouraged to rub elbows with the ministers in the Chicago south side area because they held the keys to the attention of much of that populace. I believe that is how Obama explains his association with Rev. Wright - that it started as a working relationship and grew into one of shared faith. That's all well and good.... possibly very good if it was an effective strategy to help the black community gain economic and social traction. But it doesn't tend to put one on the radar of the *nation*. There are surely many, many people in similar positions of various races in cities all over the country.

So why Obama? And *how*?

Again - he didn't storm the senate and take a stand on much of anything. Not when he was in the legislature in Illinois and not when he was in the US congress. And he was well within his right to vote present until the cows came home... but it's not a way of doing business that tends to result in getting one *noticed*.

And yet... here he is.

Whose dollars made this happen? Whose influence made it happen? What does Hillary know about it?

It's really a mystery.

*sigh* that's the problem....I am not overly fond of McCain, and I'm not sure of Obama. I think McCain picked Gov. Palin to try and sway women voters--like myself. It scares the bejesus out of me that Palin might wake up one morning and be in charge. And I never thought I would say this, but Obama seems a bit too liberal for my taste.

Is this election over yet???

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Well, best of luck, no matter who you choose.

If I can ask, are you in a swing state? If you aren't, you can explore third party candidates if you are uncomfortable with the persons fronting the tickets.

If you are in a swing state, your vote matters more because a vote for the third party could be a spoiler vote.

If you are in a swing state, and you don't want to be a spoiler, I'd explore the positions that the parties present more than the personality of their candidates.

I'm not saying that you should ignore the personalities entirely. For me, and speaking only for me, Palin solidified my support for Obama. I was a Hillary supporter. Nothing drove me into the arms of Obama as fast or as hard as McCain's choice of Palin.

In the end, vote your heart but with your mind.

Whatever you decide, you thought about it. That's really all that anyone can ask.

I watched Frontline tonight. It was soooo flippin good. Damn, I love PBS! Anywhoo. . .it takes a good in depth look at both candidates and will give you a good look at how both have gotten where they have. Here's the link. . . I guess it won't be available to watch online till tomorrow, the 15th. It's definitely a good watch for anybody:

FRONTLINE: the choice 2008: watch the full program online | PBS

The Choice 2008 draws on in-depth interviews with the advisers, friends and those closest to these unlikely candidates, as well as with seasoned observers of American politics, who together tell the definitive story of these men and their ascent to their party's nominations.

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As, I am willing to bet, Palin did not write her own convention speech, either...which everyone was salivating over.

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It's been documented that the speech was written before Palin was even appointed to the ticket and had to be tweaked after she was.

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After 8 years of Bush-Cheney. I think that people are desperate for change.

It actually makes me laugh out loud to hear the right wing whine that there's something scary about Obama's rise. Two years, how many primary elections, how many caucuses, how many speeches and appearances and events did he have to gain the nomination. And yet Palin, proven to behave in an unethical manner in violation of her own state's rules, is picked and there's nothing wrong with that? The hypocrisy would be stunning if it weren't so ridiculously laughable.

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The difference is he "rose" . .and she was "picked."

Watching Frontline last night, they do a good job explaining why Obama chose Biden and why McCain chose Palin. . .it was to appeal the the others in their own party who weren't totally on board with them. . .Obama to pick up the more moderate Clinton supporters and McCain to pick up the more conservative right.

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I never said she did. I don't think any of them write their own speeches. So I'm not fawning all over any of their speeches. . .

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

No big surprise. . .

Obama's 2004 DNC speech was a speech he had used many times before stumping in Illinois. That's from his own campaign advisor.

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And predictable.

Look at all of our organized religions.

Amen, sister/brother!

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