Some really radical associations

kvmj · #1 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 02:17 PM

YouTube - CNN on Palin's Membership in the Anti-American Radical Group AIP
Sarah Palin's radical right-wing mentors | Salon News

This is an extremely radical group.

forrestlayne · #2 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 02:47 PM

No more radicial than a lot of groups that are on the ballots thoughout the US

Alaskan Independence Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Alaskan Independence Party is a political party in the U.S. state of Alaska that advocates a state vote which includes several options, including strong beliefs in Federalism, limited government, and territorial status. It states objectives similar to that of the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party, supporting gun rights, privatization, home schooling, and limited government. The party has appeared on the ballot in Alaska in all state elections since 1970"

hambirg · #3 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 02:58 PM

Yep. . .and they are endorsing Baldwin.

The AIP is Proud to support Bob Bird for the Senate of the United States. For more information on Mr. Bird, please visit his web site. We have also endorsed the Presidential candidacy of the Constitution Party, Charles Baldwin.

Alaskan Independence Party

kvmj · #4 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by forrestlayne

No more radicial than a lot of groups that are on the ballots thoughout the US

Alaskan Independence Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Alaskan Independence Party is a political party in the U.S. state of Alaska that advocates a state vote which includes several options, including strong beliefs in Federalism, limited government, and territorial status. It states objectives similar to that of the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party, supporting gun rights, privatization, home schooling, and limited government. The party has appeared on the ballot in Alaska in all state elections since 1970"

The Constitution has declared that it is an enemy of the USA and their desire to secede? I had no idea that it was so common.

forrestlayne · #5 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kvmj

The Constitution has declared that it is an enemy of the USA and their desire to secede? I had no idea that it was so common.

Do you even bother to read the links provided?
inside the above link: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_Independence_Party )
"Since its founding, the AIP has radically changed with respect to the issue of secession. At present, it does not support secession, though, at its founding, it did"

But we all know facts are hard to believe. That same infomation can be found online at lots of sites.

ana21 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 04:02 PM

Todd Palin joined AIP in 1995 just a few years after the party's founder said the following:

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Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed "Hatred For The American Government"; Cursed "Damn Flag"
By Greg Sargent - September 2, 2008, 6:10PM
The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed the American flag as a "damn flag."

The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that's now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

"And I won't be buried under their damn flag," Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. "I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said:

"And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska."

You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago.

....

Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.

It's worth noting that Vogler isn't just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP's site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group's convention.

To be perfectly honest I think the above is much ado about nothing but ... I also think Acorn and Rev Wright and Mr. Ayers are much ado about nothing also. Fair is fair though and I'm wondering where the outrage from the right is about a VP nominee's husband belonging a group whose founder "damnned America"?

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