My own words: Finally someone is starting to call it what it is.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain-Palin use the ‘S’ word - Blogs from CNN.com

"John McCain stepped up his rhetoric against Barack Obama on taxes in his weekly radio address, comparing his plan to 'socialist' programs that would “convert the IRS into a giant welfare agency, redistributing massive amounts of wealth.”

..."Also in the pre-taped radio address, McCain said, “At least in Europe, the socialist leaders who so admire my opponent are upfront about their objectives. They use real numbers and honest language. And we should demand equal candor from Senator Obama. Raising taxes on some in order to give checks to others is not a tax cut it's just another government giveaway.”"

...""Spread the wealth around. We have seen that movie before in other countries and attempts by the liberal left before," McCain said.

In his speech, McCain also said said, “This explains some big problems with my opponent's claim that he will cut income taxes for 95 percent of Americans. You might ask: How do you cut income taxes for 90 percent of Americans, when more than 40 percent pay no income taxes right now? How do you reduce the number zero? That's the key to Barack Obama's whole plan: Since you can't reduce taxes on those who pay zero, the government will write them all checks called a tax credit. And the Treasury will have to cover those checks by taxing other people…the Obama tax increase would come at the worst possible time for America.”

Asked why McCain used the word socialist in the radio remarks, a spokesman told CNN, “That’s what it is, 'spreading the wealth' around is socialism.”

Yawn.
Here's a cool picture:
Washington Wire - WSJ.com : Obama Rally Draws 100,000 in Missouri

Ok, so thats 100,000 "idiot" that apparently want socialism instead of TRUE Individual FREEDOM.
It does seem like the American school system has finally dumbed down society.


"The pieces of the puzzle are almost all in place.this just might be the year that Lady Liberty lowers her torch, folds her arms, and falls fast asleep." - Chuck Baldwin

Wow. All this for an evil dem who wants to "S" word taxes.

He was in my town 2 weeks ago. Sadly I wasnt able to attend but there were an estimated 28,000 people attending. And I am in a "red" state too. And in the mountains to boot.

On another note James Taylor will be here tomorrow campaigning for Obama. Sadly again I wont get to attend this either. James Taylor is one of my all time favorites. Glad he is on the side of us "S" words.

What to know about Sunday's James Taylor show | CITIZEN-TIMES.com | Asheville Citizen-Times

Thanks for the pic!

Just for kicks. There is speculation that Colin Powell will be endorsing Obama tomorrow on "Meet the Press" Not sure how true that is but it is fun to think about it. He is one repub who I would vote for if he ever ran for President.

I'm not surprised. They're desperate.

Nope not desperate. Trying to keep America FREE.
Show me one country that people have all they freedoms that have socialism.

So, Iam just crazy because I understand how socialism will eat away at the American way of life.
I just hope people in American wake-up before everything is gone. Just a look back at history the facts are there.


Washington Report: America Under Obama Styled Socialism

"The only way to explain this disinterest in Obama's past and its relationship to his present is that Americans no longer consider the label "socialist" to be a pejorative. To them, it's just another content-neutral political ideology. In our non-judgmental age, it falls into the same category as Liberal vs. Conservative, or Left vs. Right. To most people, it just means Obama is a more liberal Liberal, or a leftier Lefty, and they already knew that.
Socialism is not simply a more liberal version of ordinary American politics. It is, instead, its own animal, and a very feral, dangerous animal indeed.
If it were up to me to attach labels to modern political ideologies, I would choose the terms "Individualism" and "Statism." "Individualism" would reflect the Founder's ideology, which sought to repose as much power as possible in individual citizens, with as little power as possible in the State, especially the federal state. The Founder's had emerged from a long traditional of monarchal and parliamentary statism, and they concluded that, whenever power is concentrated in the government, the individual suffers."

.."Regardless of Obama’s presumed good intentions, socialism always brings a society to a bad ending. I don’t want to believe that Americans who live in a free society that allows people to think what they will, do what they want, and succeed if they can, will willingly hand themselves over to the socialist ideology. They must therefore be reminded, again and again and again, that socialism isn’t just another political party; it’s the death knell to freedom. So remember, while McCain wants to change DC, Obama wants to change America."

Hate to tell you this, but Bush's nationalization of the banks could be considered socialism. Um, he's a Republican.

As far as your blog quote goes, yawn.

Duh! We have socialism already and Republicans have won 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections. Capitalism by itself promotes complete exploitation of the poor and middle class by the rich. Capitalism needs Socialism to reign in the rich and the greedy.

Tell me one country that socialism has not eaten away at individual freedoms?

Yes, we are on the path to more socialism with what Bush AND Congress has done this past year.
BUT to continue down that path will lead to all freedoms lost.

Yes, I hope the liberals will keep yawning. It will make the revolution fight easier to win.
I do think that when people realize how bad socialism is there will be a fight within this country.

to add: We have not had a true "free market" system. There is a major difference.

to add: Socialism came mostly from the Democrat President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, with the "new deal".

Gee, I wish the South had won.

Anyone, Anyone?

"Tell me one country that socialism has not eaten away at individual freedoms?"
ETA: I did ask it a different way the first time" Show me one country that have all their freedoms and have socialism"

I would really like to know if any country has managed to keep the individual freedoms and have socialism at the same time.

I still wish that the South had won.

And I wish that a Democrat could give a straight answer to a question.
Once again, what seems so easy ......

ETA: No one has to answer the question. I think most people already know the answer but do not want to admit it.
"The pieces of the puzzle are almost all in place.this just might be the year that Lady Liberty lowers her torch, folds her arms, and falls fast asleep." - Chuck Baldwin

You know they're not going to answer it because the answer doesn't suit them. There is no country that has their freedoms and socialism. The libs know that and they're too ashamed to admit it.

They know you're right.

Big deal. . .Stalin drew huge crowds too. Yawn. . .

In fact. . .

Stalin gained popular appeal from his presentation as a 'man of the people' from the poorer classes. The Russian people were tired from the world war and the civil war, and Stalin's policy of concentrating in building "Socialism in One Country" was seen as an optimistic antidote to war.


Wow. . .sounds familiar. I look forward to the day when human beings aren't so stupid as to keep repeating history.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Which is why I am not voting for McCain/Palin. I can't take eight more years.

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Freedoms lost where have you been. We lost alot of freedom since a republican Bush has been in office....Patriot act..............Mccain has voting with him 90% of the time so he must carry a lot of his beliefs.....vote for Mccain is keeping the past 8 nightmare years going...I heard that Powell is going to be on Meet the Press in the morning and he is on Obama side about the war in Iraq.

[quote=forrestlayne;3064873]Anyone, Anyone?

"Tell me one country that socialism has not eaten away at individual freedoms?"
ETA: I did ask it a different way the first time" Show me one country that have all their freedoms and have socialism"

I would really like to know if any country has managed to keep the individual freedoms and have socialism at the same time.[/QUOTE

This one the past 7 years... like I said the patriot act took a lot of our freedoms away.

I planned on going, but changed my mind this morning. Too much of a hassle, I'd have to get into St.Louis with hwy 40 shut down, park at my brother's (he goes to UMSL) then take the metrolink downtown and stand around in that crowd with a 8 yr old.


Yes, I'm sure that makes me an idot or an idiot.

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No one is proposing Socialism other than the current occupant of the White House. Actually, it's a done deal. It will not be permanent.

You Republicans buy into every single conspiracy theory you hear. Then, you sit around and discuss them as if they had merit nodding your heads in agreement like a bunch of bobblehead dolls.

A good question was asked, what freedoms are you worried about losing?

First ones that comes to mind:

Freedom to make as much money (ie...gold, silver) that I want without being forced to "give" it to others that will not apply themselves or take risks for a better life.
Freedom to own as many vehicles, guns, houses, property, etc as I want.
Freedom to raise my children as I chose.
Freedom to live my life as I chose.

With socialism you "eventually" will lose all the above.

Obama ideas are leaning more toward socialism. No, "conspiracy theory", I heard the entire youtube where Obama said what he said.

Oh, TYPO..so sorry. I corrected my earlier post.

Eight years in the scope of history of mankind is nothing.

BUT. . .what Bush said he was going to do and what he actually did are two very different things. What Bush actually did is much more in line with what Obama says he wants to do than what McCain is proposing. I know McCain has begrudgingly kissed up to get where he is today. . .but I still have hope that when he actually gets to a position of power that we might see the McCain of 2000.

When Obama answered Joe the Plumber's question he showed his true feelings. His ideology is not different than the path that Bush actually took. It is more of the same. Socialism is a very attractive ideology. . .too bad it doesn't actually work in the real world.

You vote however you want. . .but don't be surprised when Obama actually carries out the things that he is promising. . .more, bigger and more intrusive government. You must like what Bush has done if you think this country needs to go further down that path.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

What a stretch of the imagination you have comparing Obama's platform with George Bush. Unless of course it was a typo and you meant McCain and Bush.

OBAMA/BIDEN ALL THE WAY

I believe that McCain sold his soul to the Republican party to get this nomination, I don't think that he would have tapped Palin on his own. I believe that this is the downfall of the McCain campaign or one of the major downfalls. Since her coming on board, there have been major endorsements that were Republican jumping ship and I feel for him.

Listen to what Colin Powell says about the redistribution of wealth. He says the McCain platform is erratic because first they brought in the Ayers, then ACORN, now Socialism. Erratic when we need a candidate who is steady.

And on the thing blacks are only voting for Obama because he is black, I wonder why Jesse Jackson wasn't president a few years ago? He was black.

I will vote for who I want and I am not looking to be surprised. I believe that we are heading in the right direction when Obama wins. I know that the direction we are in now is the wrong one. The McCain we see now is wanting us to move in the wrong direction. I would be shocked and not merely surprised if McCain won and moved us in a positive manner. Shocked.

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The purpose of taxes is not to make you give up money to support people sho are too lazy to work. The purpose of taxes is to support the common good of the people. The single biggest expense for the government goes to the Pentagon. Very little goes to welfare.

You will remain free to buy anything you wish. You may not be able to buy anything on credit for awhile, but you can certainly buy 20 cars and 80,000 guns if you so choose. You can even buy 8-12 properties. Me, I'd go for shoes....

In this country, you are free to fill your children with bile if you so choose. Dress them in sheets if you want to and take them to rallies. You can burn a cross; just don't so it on someone else's property. You don't have to send your child to public school; but, they will have to meet standards of minimum knowledge.

You will remain free to live your life as you so choose. No one has any intention of changing that.

Your statements have absolutely no basis in fact.

Fear, fear, fear. Unfounded fear. Reread what you have written and if you seriously feel that Obama as President in the next four/eight years will make you raise your children a different way, live differently, give up your guns, give your money away to those who are less risky for a better life, I feel for you. I know that when you needed the taxpayers help to get you through a time in your families life you were more than liikely happy that there were people who gladly gave money so your family could live and eat and be educated.

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We miss you, sweet brother
God Bless the USA!!!!! Praying for my Youngster son at United States Naval Academy, class of 2014!!

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Anything that is NOT VOLUNTARY is theft.
Socialism (support of the common good) goes against the "Philosophy of Liberty"
You have to "take by force" (taxes) to give to others.

Short presentation.
http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

Socialism eats away at freedom .."eventually" all freedom is lost.

References to rasicm is not necessary.

I think I see. You believe that we have been a Socialistic nation ever since the first income tax was imposed?

You may want to google hegemony which is where the Republicans are trying so hard to bring us.

I'm not comparing their "platforms" at all. I'm comparing the things that Bush was actually able to do and what Obama is proposing to do. . . .bigger, more intrusive government. Show me where that isn't true.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

I don't know the numbers for the Pentagon, but we just spent $700 billion (I heard it's closer to $2 trillion) on corporate welfare. . .and it's going to get worse.

I don't think anybody has a problem with paying taxes to support the common good of the people, but that's not how the system works. These guys aren't spending their own money.

A guy I know that is a stock broker wrote this on another board and I think he's dead on:

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

**Please note that not all Republicans feel this way.

I do not agree with the 16th Amendment to the Constitution that was passed in 1913. Which made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. That year the Democrats had the majority in both Senate /House and also a Democrat President. (Woodrow Wilson)
This was not the first time for an income tax in the US but rather that it became a permanent law.

I also disagree with some of the other things that have been but in place when there was a Democrat majority in the Senate/House and also a Democrat President. (Franklin D. Roosevelt - FDR)

I don't think income tax necessarily means socialism. . .

But as far as hegemony. . .I think the Democrats are as equally guilty here. The Dems and the Repubs are part of the same governmental system. . .they both promote the status quo.

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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- George Orwell Animal Farm

I was not the one that posted BUT I did find this article interesting. It contains a list of 20.

Commentary: Obama and Bush are not so far apart - CNN.com

"Since Barack Obama incessantly makes the case that a John McCain administration would equate to another Bush term, it's worth looking at just how much Sen. Obama himself is in agreement with the unpopular president.

Does that mean that he, too, would be a repeat of President Bush? If one were to apply his logic, maybe so."

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Can you please tell me how patriot act has personally robbed you of your freedom.

[quote=kolu;3065695]It was not me that stated about the patriot act ...what you quoted was a post made by "grumpy247".

An article of interested is written by Judge Andrew P Napolitano (also the author of Nation of Sheep)
How Congress Has Assaulted Our Freedoms in the Patriot Act by Andrew P. Napolitano