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Old 10-21-2008, 06:20 PM
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Obama Sign Stolen & Replaced with Confederate Flag

This is revolting.


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Leroy C. McLaughlin finished his workday on Friday and was cooking dinner when a family member phoned.

The 4-foot-by-8-foot Barack Obama campaign sign that McLaughlin had posted in the front yard of his Chesterfield County home was gone.

A Confederate flag hung in its place.

Surveying the scene that night, McLaughlin, 78, a Baptist minister and an Army veteran who lived to see the first black person nominated to a major-party ticket, had a message for whoever left the flag, viewed by many as a symbol of racial oppression: "I love you, and God does, too."

That same night, someone drove by honking and shouting, according to McLaughlin's family.

Yesterday morning, in the 15 minutes that a reporter and photographer were inspecting a new sign with McLaughlin, a small car sped back and forth past his house three times. Occupants rapidly beeped the horn and appeared to shout "No change," apparently a reference to McLaughlin's new sign. Like the one it replaced, it says: "Vote for Change, November 4th."

McLaughlin seemed unshaken.

"I've been praying for them, because we're all going to be charged with what we do," he said. "It's sad that we've grown and we want to keep fighting with something and can't be peaceful and thankful."

Sometime Friday between 7:30 and 9 p.m., someone ripped the sign from its wooden posts just a few feet off Bailey Bridge Road near Manchester High School.

A family member returning from Manchester's homecoming football game saw the Confederate flag and alerted McLaughlin. He was fixing dinner near a tapestry montage that features the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., between the Statue of Liberty and a waving American flag.

McLaughlin went outside to find an outraged neighbor on his front lawn tugging the flag down. He told him to leave it, and they called police.

Chesterfield police spokeswoman Ann Reid confirmed that police are investigating the sign's disappearance as a larceny. She said the sign was taken Friday night and replaced with a 3-foot-by-5-foot Confederate flag. Chesterfield police are holding the flag as evidence.

Kevin Griffis, a spokesman for Democrat Obama's campaign in Virginia, said there have been other incidents in Virginia and across the country "that have had racial overtones."

"I think on both sides we see overzealous supporters," he said. "We urge both our supporters as well as those of Senator [John] McCain to disagree in a respectful way."

Gail Gitcho, a spokeswoman for Republican McCain's Virginia campaign, said: "We have had reports of vandalism and theft of both McCain and Obama campaign signs on personal property throughout Virginia. It is sad and disappointing that this has happened across the state, and the McCain campaign strongly condemns these actions."

McLaughlin's 4 acres along Bailey Bridge Road are a wooded holdout among sprouting subdivisions. Since 1964, he has lived in the house he partially built by hand, and he still grows vegetables in rows alongside his home. He has trimmed hair in the same Richmond barbershop for 50 years and served as pastor of New Hope Baptist Church in Cumberland County for two decades.

He said yesterday on a break from making pear preserves that he isn't pushing for a particularly severe punishment for the perpetrator. He didn't raise his voice when discussing it; now that he has replaced the yard sign, he'll be watchful.

He says he wants whoever took the sign to get a talking-to about trespassing and taking property that doesn't belong to them -- and about the significance of the symbol they left behind.

"I feel like this is somebody with a lot of hatred in their heart," he said. "It's our job to help the guy try to do better in life."

Mr. McLaughlin has a whole lot more class than the scum that did this, that's for sure.

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Old 10-21-2008, 07:24 PM
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To me this is just plain and simple out and out rude and racist all the way. Just how low people are willing th go to show their disrepect for a candidate of color... Shame on them... CAtherine
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It's going on with the Republican signs, too. The vandalism is quite uncalled for.


Marooned In Marin: "Tolerant" Liberals Torch McCain Sign In Oregon...Dana Milbank & Mary Mitchell Are Silent
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:24 PM
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Can't wait to hear your story where a Republican sign was replaced with a blatant symbol of racism.
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Sorry allinaugust its not the same we all know what the that particular flag stands for its not the same as with any anything that has been done to spear the McCain campain, this was a loud and clear view of totally unbelievable racism that still rages in our country.... Catherine
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:50 PM
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The Herald | HeraldOnline.com - Vandals strike York County GOP headquarters - Rock Hill, SC

"Vandals spray-painted the words “Republican means slavery” on the door of the York County GOP campaign headquarters overnight Friday.

Party volunteers called police after discovering the message when they arrived at the office on Rock Hill’s Oakland Avenue. The vandals also stole about 45 candidate signs from the front yard and spray-painted over a banner that carried a picture of Republican presidential nominee John McCain."
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:13 PM
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I've had one Obama sign stolen so far and we've had quite a few people come in the office saying their sign was taken too.

{no evidence of blatant racism so maybe I shouldn't be posting in this thread}
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:24 PM
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Sorry allinaugust its not the same we all know what the that particular flag stands for its not the same as with any anything that has been done to spear the McCain campain, this was a loud and clear view of totally unbelievable racism that still rages in our country.... Catherine
WTF?? Throwing a moltov cocktail at somebody's home is somehow less of an evil? Get real!

I would much rather have somebody replace my sign with a symbol that I don't agree with than try to burn down my home with my family asleep in it. One is a nasty crime and the other is an act of violence!!!
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:25 PM
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Can't wait to hear your story where a Republican sign was replaced with a blatant symbol of racism.
Again. .. ewwww. . .a symbol versus and act of violence. Neither is right, but I would rather have the symbol thank you very much!
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:19 PM
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It is ALL so nasty.

Don't know if anyone heard about this. But it seems the dead bear found wrapped in Obama posters at Western Carolina University was just a prank and not politically or racially motivated.

Here's the AP article. According to the local news the bear was not shot but was instead hit by a car. Still not pretty but the students interviewed on TV were relieved it wasn't racial or political.


The Associated Press: Police in NC: Dead bear under Obama signs a prank
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Can't wait to hear your story where a Republican sign was replaced with a blatant symbol of racism.
Oh, I see, the vandalism only counts if it's "racist"?? I see. And, how exactly do you know that the person throwing the molotov cocktail wasn't black??? Therefore, that could very well make it a racial act. I answered my own question a few threads ago, so no need to try and answer it
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In answer to forrestlayne 's quote about someone saying Republican means slavery is not ok in my books either, whether we are talking about slavery or the conferderate flags they both symbolize racism and should not under any circumstances be allowed for any running canditate. But I truly hate to say this , I personally do not feel this would be happening if it was not that Barack Obama is part African American or in some people'e views just by his looks they are taking him for being a whole African American Black person which is not fair. No one especially today should be judged on race creed or color nor religion nor personal lifesyles. Thats why I simply always will love the quote from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Let not the man be judged by the color of his skin, but rather by the content of his character, sadly again, it seems we come so far, but then are taken back so far. Edited to all personal smearing of any racism towards any running candidate is uncalled for... Catherine
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:49 PM
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In answer to forrestlayne 's quote about someone saying Republican means slavery is not ok in my books either, whether we are talking about slavery or the conferderate flags they both symbolize racism and should not under any circumstances be allowed for any running canditate. But I truly hate to say this , I personally do not feel this would be happening if it was not that Barack Obama is part African American or in some people'e views just by his looks they are taking him for being a whole African American Black person which is not fair. No one especially today should be judged on race creed or color nor religion nor personal lifesyles. Thats why I simply always will love the quote from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Let not the man be judged by the color of his skin, but rather by the content of his character, sadly again, it seems we come so far, but then are taken back so far. Edited to all personal smearing of any racism towards any running candidate is uncalled for... Catherine
Be careful. . .because that is sometimes exactly how they want you to think. Remember the college professor who vandalized her own car with swaztikas and anit-lesbian graffiti? There was also a guy in New York, I think ,who spray painted his own house with racial slurs. Better to find out for sure who was respionsible before we jump to any conclusions.

I agree. . .Martin Luther King was a great man. . .a Republican too.
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Yes I know that the late Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican again it did not make him or any Republican a bad person, however As I have stated before there are bad and good in all parties concerned. Of course I do not want to pass judgement but anyone who commits hideous racist crimes are wrong no matter the parties out and out wrong... Catherine
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Yes I know that the late Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican again it did not make him or any Republican a bad person, however As I have stated before there are bad and good in all parties concerned. Of course I do not want to pass judgement but anyone who commits hideous racist crimes are wrong no matter the parties out and out wrong... Catherine
I agree.

I just think the whole "hate" crime thing is a little unjustified. Vandalism. . .assault. . .those are already crimes. And aren't basically all crimes where there's a victim "hate" crimes? Idk. . .maybe I just have a problem with the term "hate crime". Certainly there are racially motivated crimes, but does that make evey crime where the perpertrator is a different race then the victim a "hate crime"? I don't really know what the legal definition is.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:59 AM
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I agree. . .Martin Luther King was a great man. . .a Republican too.
He wasn't a Republican according to his son.

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But what would Martin Luther King III know about his father?

Maybe his friends knew something. But they didn't think he was a Republican either, what with denouncing Goldwater and all . . .

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Great links Truble! Especially the Washington Post link. It falls into line with what I have researched through the years.
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The Republican Party was founded on noble causes but that has most certainly changed for the worse.

Here's an example: cbs5.com - SoCal GOP Group Depicts Obama In Racist Caricature

Then there's this article from 2002: Lott, Reagan and Republican Racism - TIME

There aren't too many blacks willing to vote for this.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:36 AM
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It's sad that a few bad apples (idiots) are in the foreground. What about all the decent people...oh they're uninteresting so they don't make the news.
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Great links Truble! Especially the Washington Post link. It falls into line with what I have researched through the years.
I found it interesting that the article said the Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't think we can verify one way or another what party affiliation MLK was with. He's no longer here to tell us himself, and while his sonswould hopefully know him better than most, they were only 10 and 8 when MLK died. I don't know of too many kids that young that really explore politics with anyone.

I did find this:
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Just because it lists him as a Republican, I don't necessarily think that makes it so. It will have to remain a mystery, to me, anyway.
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I found it interesting that the article said the Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't think we can verify one way or another what party affiliation MLK was with. He's no longer here to tell us himself, and while his sonswould hopefully know him better than most, they were only 10 and 8 when MLK died. I don't know of too many kids that young that really explore politics with anyone.

I did find this:
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Just because it lists him as a Republican, I don't necessarily think that makes it so. It will have to remain a mystery, to me, anyway.
Most Blacks were Republicans back in the early to mid 60s. It all changed with JFK and RFK's support of MLK Jr's cause, the Civil Rights Act of 1968 by LBJ, and Lee Atwater's Southern Strategy ushered in with Nixon.

You won't find a single quote attributed to MLK Jr. as to which party he was a member of.
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Yes, but who cares about "facts" when suppositions support their purposes and wants....
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Omg posters I simply loved the late Dr, Martin Luther KIng Jr, he truly was a wonderful man who only wanted the same rights for all us Americans. He sadly died way before his time and would have love to have seen him go on to the future. I have a Dream Speech brings me to tears each and every time and we need to stop going to war and stop fighting and creating more violence.... Catherine
 

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