The Bulletin - Philadelphia's Family Newspaper - Black Leaders Support McCain

Interesting article...
Why Martin Luther King Was Republican - HUMAN EVENTS

Dr Alveda King is one issue voter.

I have never seen so many inaccuracies in one place as in the Human Events article.

Why is it news that some blacks will support McCain? Should we start crowing about all the white people supporting Obama? It would be a darn sorry state of affairs if McCain was incapable of pulling any black support.

The Human Events article is just chock-full of misstatements and noticeably lacking in any supporting documentation.

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Some of the infomation from The Human Events article comes from the National Black Republican website.

National Black Republican Association - National Black Republican Association NBRA

Dr. Alveda C. King has been in the public view for a long time. She usually does speak about the pro-life issue. She was also a member of the Georgia House of Representatives

And the Black Republican Association surely has no reason to lie, do they?

Having chosen to have two abortions herself, it's particularly abhorent that she now tries to prevent other women from making their own choice and decision about abortion.

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The only part in that article that seems questionable is them claiming Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. No actual records to prove one way or the other. Records do prove that his father was a Republican.
Everything else in the article that I checked can be found at lots of history sites by doing a google search.


ETA; according to this information ...Dr. Alveda King, says "Planned Parenthood Lied to Me" in the early 1970's about her abortions.
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Conten...x?rsrcid=36566

I am not arguing the "abortion issue" just pointing out what she is know for.

Isn't that the entire point of the article, though? The entire article is based on one big fact lie.

Yes, she's know for being a hypocrite, it seems.

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ETA; according to this information ...Dr. Alveda King, says "Planned Parenthood Lied to Me" in the early 1970's about her abortions.
CNSNews.com - MLK?s Niece: Planned Parenthood Lied to Me

I am not arguing the "abortion issue" just pointing out what she is know for.[/quote]


The Civil Rights Act of 1957 was not pushed through by Eisenhowerm but, by LBJ while in the Senate. It had no teeth and addressed the tight for blacks to vote.

We shall agree that Warren was a good choice for the Supreme Court.

I have read that Kennedy certainly supported Civil Rights but did not have the nerve to fight for them.

However, both JFK and did intervene while King was in the Birmingham Jail.

No one has done more than LBJ in the fight for Civil Rights. He took on the Klan through the FBI (It helped that Hoover had died). It was Hoover who tapped King's phones because, you know, he, like all community organizers, was considered a subversive.

Kennedy established Affirmative Action in 1961 through executive order 10925. Nixon adopted it as a federal policy in

The South started to shift to the GOP in 1965 after passage of the Civil Rights Act. Blacks began to migrate to the Democratic Party. After the Act was ammended in 1968, the switch was complete.

Nixon had his own Karl Rove, Kevin Phillips, who implemented the "Southern Strategy." Lee Atwater, Reagan's Rove, described it like this:
" Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964… and that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster...

Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps...?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can't say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger."

Georgia has been a GOP stronghold as has Louisianna for decades.

Today, you would call Earl Warren, Eisenhower, Goldwater and Nixon "Rinos".

Agreed--the whole point of the article was supposed to "prove" MLK was a Republican....which it did NOT do.

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There were several points in the article. Just because something is listed in the title does not mean that is the ONLY point in the article. The article was also dealing with the history behind the Republican party.

Sure, there are things in history I would love to change..but that isn't being truthful. We can not deny what has happen in history or try to change it to suit our needs/way of thinkng.

Why you ask? Because people voting for McCain are being called racist, that's why.

The Fact that the article TITLE is: Why Martin Luther King Was Republican is totally misleading, and people who only read as far as the title and not much beyond will take this as a proven truth...which it is NOT proven.....totally a bait put there ON PURPOSE.

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I don't know where you are getting your info. . .

The Civil Rights Act of 1957, primarily a voting rights bill, was the first civil rights legislation enacted by Congress in the United States since Reconstruction. After it was proposed to Congress by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, Southern Democratic senator James Strom Thurmond sustained the longest filibuster in history in an attempt to keep it from becoming law.

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The goal of the 1957 Civil Rights Act was to ensure all African Americans could exercise their right to vote. By 1957, only about 20% of African Americans had registered to vote. The Democratic Senate leader, Lyndon Baines Johnson, realized that the bill and its journey through Congress could tear apart his party made up of anti-civil rights and pro-civil rights members. Johnson sent the bill to the judiciary committee led by Senator James Eastland, an anti-civil rights senator from Mississippi. Eastland changed and altered the bill almost beyond recognition after the very public outburst by Senator Richard Russell from Georgia who claimed that it was an example of the Federal government wanting to impose its laws on states. Johnson sought recognition from the civil rights advocates for passing the bill while also receiving recognition from the mostly southern anti-civil rights Democrats for "killing the bill."

I'm not going to bash Robert Kennedy. . .I think he did believe in the civil rights movement. . . but he did authorize the wire tapping of MLK. Not so much because he was a civil rights leader, because of the Communist allegations.

As far as Johnson. . .he's kind of a mystery to me. Hard to know what he truly believed. This is a quote from him. . .makes you go. . .hmmmm?

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."


--Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957

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The point is why blacks do not vote for Republicans.

Because they've been duped by the Dems to think that somehow they represent them?!

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Yes, Alveda King is a post-abortive woman. Just because she has seen the light concerning the evil of abortion certainly doesn't make her a hypocrit (sp). I applaud her coming out and speaking about her experience and how abortion doesn't help women. She's a good speaker. One issue voter? Good for her! She's voting for life-no better issue!

Yeah. . .I guess that makes all recovered alcoholics hypocrites too. Shame on them!

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As far as I know recovering alcoholics don't try to make it illegal for others to drink.

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Hmmm. . .ok. How about recovered NA members. . .better?

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No...drugs are already illegal, and NA members didn't work to make them that way. They're just trying to stay clean.

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Ok. . .I'm thinking. . .how about drunk drivers? I guess that doesn't count because it's not illegal. I can't really think of anything else that would be so regrettable that isn't illegal.

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Voting for McCain/Palin.

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TRUBLE2301 too funny but oh so true voting for McCain can be considered Illegial at least here in the United States......Very proud left winged liberal Democrat all the way....11 days and counting till Victory for Obama and Biden and there is nothing illegial about that.......Catherine

How could voting for McCain be considered illegal?

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IT would be plain and simple in my thoughts and views. I am just plain sick and tired and so disheartned as what the Bush Administration has done to my Country, My birthplace, my beautiful United States of American, what Bush did to us was a crime and if and I know he will not get elected, to me bringing another Republican into office as McCain is illegial. Actually what I would truly love to see, is George W.Bush and Cheney going over to Iraq and live there for something, and let them see firsthand how hard it is for them soldiers. Yes I know they both served, but as punishment for what they did to our country, they should go and I would gladly pay for the ticket myself. Again there are my personal views.

Should we send Brzezinski to Afghanistan too? That seems fair.

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Why would you want a journalist like Mika Emilie Brzezinski to go to Afghanistan, why becasue she is a Brack Obama Supporter. I think Senator McCain would probably like to see her go. I am talking about letting Bush and McCAin go to Iraq to see first hand all the destruction this war has done plain and simple. Do you seriously want to see or hear about more human death . As our country not suffered enough with already well over 4500 innocent lives lost, not to mention the innocent lives of the citizens of Iraq. Listen I was all for seeing Saddam Hussain get out of power, he was without a serious doubt a extremely vicious ruler who brought so much fear and death to his country. His 2 sons were none better. However if we as Americans continue to invade more of these Middle Eastern Countries, where does it end. I will admit ww2 was necessary because at the rate Adoph Hitler was going , with what killing well over 6 million Jewish people could not go on. However its 2008 can we not find a better more reasonable way of perhaps helping these countries without going into any further wars. Must be need to see or hear about more bloodshed. Sorry but I know I coin the phase and pronouce it and write it alot, which is "PEACE".. We need more peace today and no pun intended but I would like to see more love then war...Peace. Catherine

Seriously? You don't think McCain KNOWS the destruction of war? I find your logic on sending McCain to be flawed. If anyone knows the actual toll of war in this election it would be McCain.

You justify WWII with the argument that Hitler had killed well over 6 million. How many had Saddam killed or had killed?

Really, your thought process is flawed. You can't justify one war w/ an argument that very well could have applied to the current war.

Don't get me wrong--I hate this war. I am against this war. But your arguments actually give credence to the argument FOR this war.

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I was talking about Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Note to self: Be more specific.

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People make decisions their whole life, they have choices. Sometimes, their decisions are wrong. Regrettable even.

But, I can tell you this--from my perspective: My abortion is not a decision that I regret. I made the decision that was best for me. I regret getting involved w/ a drug addict who I slept with, who got me pregnant. I regret that more than you know. I regret that my decision to have an abortion cost me my job (staunch Catholic boss). I regret lots of things--my abortion is not one of them. If it weren't for my children, I'd regret my husband....but that's another post for another time!

I find it ironic that people are worried about making sure that a woman carries the baby to term, but no one mentions what to do with the man who got her pregnant? The irony is if you shackle women with carrying a child to term, but the male of the species isn't held as accountable then the men are in charge--FOREVER. Women have no hope of ever attaining equal status. If men were capable of conceiving and carrying a child for 9 months, I don't think whether to keep abortion legal would even be in question.

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MArliynk , let me speak again, I am not saying that Senator McCain has no past history with wars I know he does. What I am trying to say when I said, that Bush and Cheney should go and spend some time in Iraq and if we elect Senator John McCain for president then he will continue with the war, so in those words, then I feel he should personally go there and spend some times. DO you or ever have watched the program Big People, Small World... Ok recently MAtt Roloff the father who is a disabled dwarf when to Iraq,,, seeing with my own eyes just how dangerous is was for him to get to see the disabled children like me was so so so scary. There was a part of the show , where they were driving through a severe dangerous zone. Inside the vehicle was so many weapons. As they were driving the dust was so thick it was hard for anyone to breathe and while they were driving. I witnessed so many homes and buildings that are all rumble and shabbles. Now these middle eastern countries are known for suicide bombers its so truly sad. Again Saddam Hussian was a evil man that walked this earth. Yes it was good to take him down and kill him. However do you seriously think , that once and if we do retreat, things will be normal for the Iraqi Nation. I do not believe so, because I truly feel there are so many people of those countries who do have deep hatred for our Country. So how many countries are we going to help. How many innocent lost of lives both here and aboard must we keep going. Granted if the Iraqi war could truly have brought that country to a true Democracy especially for the women I would be for it 100 percent. However sadly that will not happen, because as we speak bombs and mass killings over there are a comman occurance every single day... Honestly Marilynk or to whomever if Obama gets elected and we slowly retreat what do you think will happen to the Iraqi nation, please share your comments. Peace... Catherine

I meant that she found regrettable. Obviously not everyone feels regret about having an abortion, but there are a lot of women that have regretted theirs.

As for the men. . .strap that baby to his back for the next 18yrs.

ps. . .sounds like maybe your husband and my ex are related. At least I have beautiful kids.

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MArilynk on a personal sincere note about your comments about your abortion. First off I am sorry to read your story. Secondly I have been there also , I do had a abortion on 2-7-93, Yes I dearly regret it , but for me and my family it was the right decision. I already when through 2 children whom were born with severe heart problems... Thankfully my last 3rd child Caitlin at 18 weeks while pregnant they were able to determine her heart was fine. Ok I find out I am pregnant. I was not on birth control, nor did we plan it. Sadly when I found out I was totally devastated, here I was with a 6 year old, 4 year old and a 9month old baby. When I had gone to the doctors and was told of the many heart problems that existed, I could not go through this again. So at 11 weeks I had an abortion. With me and again my personal views, abortion is a personal decision, perhaps not always the right one. As a mom I got so depressed over the whole abortion issue, it literally made me so sick. I had many dreams and always this is the truth , I am pictured with a boy, A child of mine I know is somewhere in heaven...As far as abortion, same sex marriages, gun control , the list goes on and on, with all these issues, they are personal and not one single Political person should make these decisions for us.. I always have believed everything we do in life is the bottom line all about choices..... To other posters, I realize this is off topic and deeply apologize for any misundestandings... Peace. Catherine

Again ladies off subject, however to add or lighten up the thread or posts, if we women let it up to men to give birth. I truly cannot even imagine that, the human population would end immediately lol. Women are so strong I guess , nope I mean God did a good thing making Women give birth...lol... Peace. Catherine

I don't know quite how to say this. . .I agree with the war is hell part, but if you think Obama is going to just pull out like he originally promised you are quite mistaken. He wants to expand troops in Afghanistan. . .possibly Pakistan. Before you know it we will be in Ukraine as well.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Of course we cannot just pull out, there will be so much total defensation I cannot even imagine. As far as going into Afghanistian, I am for that not for a war, but only to hopefully find Osama Bin Laden and if Obama has to track into other countries not to bring war, but to hunt this man down, then I am for it and for that reason only.... Catherine

I am sorry you had to go through that.

Here is something you and I can agree on. . . .personal freedom! I am very concerned how quickly we are moving towards this Orwellian. . .Big Brother kind of totalitarianism. It seems to get worse and worse. They disuise it as something that is good for us. . .but it's not. I'm not a big gun advocate. . .but I won't support gun control because I think it errodes at personal freedom. People here know I am personally pro-life, but I won't support making it illegal. . . .personal freedom again. I could go on and on. . .but I'm probably being watched by some camera. . . .LOL!

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They could have had Bin Laden along time ago. . . .if they truly wanted him.

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Honestly again Hambirg I am admit when I am at fault . I do so agree with you that they should have found him by now, for godsakes its been 8 years since 9/11. Do I think they will, probably not, will it change terrorism,no way, its a fact of life . Our lives every single day. Thats why I am so proud to be a American and like you said I totally believe in freedom to do what we feel personally ,because to me always life is all about choices and until, you or me walk in someone else'e shoes we shoud never pass judgement. Peace. Catherine