From an email I received - some of you may have also...

Go McCain!

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Mary

Yes and we are all grateful to McCain for his service OVER 40 YEARS AGO. I am definately not downplaying the gratitude we all have towards McCain for his years of service in the military. However, times do change and we are actually in the 21st century - computers and all sorts of electronics have been introduced since the 1960s.

That is awesome! THanks op!

McCain crashed five of those. He was computer illiterate back then also. Thanks OP!

McCain lost FIVE US Aircrafts

2,251 aircraft lost in the Viet Nam war. 514 were "operational reasons" That's about 23% of the lost aircraft due to pilot error.

You should at least be big enough to state in your post that yea, McCain lost 5 aircraft but one was in training in 1958 -- one was because he had a flame-out and had to eject -- one had an "accidentally fired rocket" slam into his plane -- and the last was when he was shot down near Hanoi.

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You cant click on a link.

Obama can't say he served his country thru military service, EVER!!

Thanks OP.

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And?? Does someone have to serve in the Military to make them Oval Office worthy???



On another note I bet Obama has a Mac....

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LOL, I bet he does too!

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He was a very bad pilot. Crashed several times, and could not keep on his flight plan. That is why he was a POW. He flew off course.

I have always wondered how he got a pilot slot anyway. At the academy pilot slots are given only to those midshipmen who are the best in the class. There are only around 1/4 of the class given pilot slots and about 150 or so to Marine and the rest to SWO or Subs, with subs being the smallest number as you can imagine.

John McCain must have used his father and grandfathers position to leapfrog over other more qualified candidates to get one of those slots since he was at the bottom of his class.

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Wow, a REpublican using family connections? Hard to imagine, isn't it?

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Last I checked that wasn't a requirement to be president so I could really care less!!

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That was made clear in the Rolling Stones article.

This just made me think. Mccain has never had to work for anything, always had it handed to him on a silver plattter. Maybe that is why his race is going down the toilet. He dont know how to fight and work hard for something.

Personally, I don't think that is the reason he is failing now. I think he has changed to appease the base of the Rep party. I don't think he is comfortable being so on the right. He is a good person and an honorable man and I think if he had just ran the campaign like he did in 2000, he would have had a stronger ticket. Perhaps if he hadn't had the running mate he has might have helped as well.

It is also the times he is running in. McCain is campaigning like an old Republican and the youth are driving this campaign. Americans are looking for something new and want change. With the use of the internet and the blogs to get the message out, allowed Obama run a constant steady campaign which never faltered.

The fact that McCain was running against Bush didn't help and when the economy crashed and there was that mess, it was a bad deal for him.

This is just my opinion, though. I know he has had things handed to him because of his last name but I think that this was out of his control and I feel sorry for him at this time. His real shot was against Bush in 2000 and it didn't happen. He won't run again. They are already talking about Palin running for Pres. in 2012. I don't think she will choose him as VP. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

I give bonus points for it Does someone have to use a computer to be Oval Office worthy?

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How can you people be so rude? Don't you have a conscious? My father-in-law was a POW and I take offense to what you just posted. Do you ever think of what you're actually saying before you post?

To have crashed 5 planes, McCain had to have been a very bad pilot. Had he not been the son and grandson of Admirals, he would have lost his wings. This has nothing to do with his having been a POW.

My dad almost got his foot blown off over there, he watch his BEST FRIEND die in his arms, my mom said when he came back from that war he was a change man, and not for the better. I am not being rude he even stated that himself that he was off course. I am not being rude just stated facts!!!

Did you even read how the planes were lost/crashed? Maybe you should read my post #5

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I think him having admirals as father and grandfather must have cut him some slack. If you crash a plane now for any reason during training, I believe you wash out of the Pilot Training. Those planes cost too much to just let anyone fly them.

Yes, you were rude. I would never say your father was the cause of him getting his foot almost blown off. War is horrible. You basically said it was McCain's fault that he was a POW. That is wrong for you to say that. I guess it was my father-in-law's fault that he was captured because perhaps he was in the 'wrong place'. He was at war! The stories my father-in-law told us of his time as a POW in addition to being a soldier is more horrible than you could ever imagine.

I think you should show respect no matter whether you like McCain or not.

No I said he was a POW because he was off his flight path....he said that himself.....I said that because we were talking about him being a bad pilot. You dont have to tell me about the War being horrible....like I said my dad came back a change man, my sister has stated the way he is with our kids is the way he would of been with us if it had not been for the war. That is heartbreaking. I was only 18 months old when he came back. He is not the only one in my family that was in that war. All his brothers. My friend when I was younger her dad( I believe was a POW I cant be sure because you did not talk about stuff like that in the 70's early 80;s)I know she thouhgt her dad wasnt coming home and then he was there. I spent the night over her house and woke up with him screaming a scream that I will never forget. And my friend said he did that almost everynight. I was not saying it was his fault, or making light of him being a POW.

Seriously??? I would expect my president to have a minimum capability of communicating and retrieving data as any 3rd grader is expected to do.

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Why did he fly off course? I'm just wondering. Was he flying a mission that was "unofficial" and had to be reported as a pilot off course if shot down? I don't know.

I think this is one of those moments unless you were there---none of us will ever know the truth. Kind of like w/ OJ Simpson. I'm 100% sure he killed his ex-wife and her friend. But short of the dead bodies, what evidence is there??

You may be 100% sure he was just a bad pilot---but short of the alleged crashed planes what evidence is there?

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Wow, this is a sensitive subject, isn't it? The truth is that according to is book, he said himself that he was off course when he crashed his plane. I can't remember if it was because he was shot down or had mechanical difficulties but he was off course. Now, I don't think that anyone said it was his fault that he was a POW but the facts remain, he was off course, he was in a crash that led to his becoming a POW. I think it is okay to say that. It is true. It doesn't take away anything from him that he was a war hero at all. Anyone who was a POW was not sitting in their living room when they were captured. They were doing war business and were captured.

I don't think that John McCain would be offended by what was said. He was a hero for going through all that.

Yes, seriously!! I'm sure the man can retreive email, but, really, do you THINK for one second that the POTUS actually DOES retrieve his own email??? Puleeezzze.

There's a big voter issue, huh??? Be sure the person you cast your vote knows how to retrieve their own emails

I certainly hope anything that the POTUS needs to discuss is NOT going over the email.

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"Puleeezzze" right back at ya! Be sure the person you cast your vote for has at the very least the most basic of business world skills so that he/she does not have to be spoonfed and their hand held constantly.

Until now I never knew Mr. McCain possibly might not know how to CTRL/ALT/Delete or password protect a document.

Not that it makes any difference in how I planned to cast my vote, of course. Just a little topping for the cake, that's all.

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I totally agree..I dont care how many planes he crashed, he served our country....No one has respect for that anymore...and its pathetic...my 12 yr just wrote an essay on why we should honor our veterans...Maybe a few of you need to read it......Sherri

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Yeah. . . I'd like to see more about the whole "off course" thing. I had thought I had seen that they were under missile fire. . .that's why he was off course. . . .not that he was out there just blindly lost like some would have you believe.

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I wish people would just leave Mr. McCain's military experiences and contributions alone. I didn't like it when Mr. Kerry was attacked over his and I don't like it any better now that the shoe is on the other foot.

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You need to read the Rolling Stone article.

I was going to work when I posted the reply.

I was not rude!!!! It is not wrong for me to say, he flew off course and his plane got shot down....if he would of been on course he would of not been shot down, well there. I love the way you put words into my mouth. Where do you see that I said it was his fault????NOWHERE. You assumed something and you know what they say about when you assume something. And you me dear just proved the statement true......

Just so you know I USED to think highly of Mcccain, but I believe he sold his sold for this election.

?????He has said himself he flew off course!!!!!How is that not respecting him?????So Mccain is not respecting himself because he said he flew off course....I said he was a bad pilot, he is. It shows in his records.

He still served our country admirably and should be respected for that if for nothing else....All veternans should be..... Sherri

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No one has disrespected him for being a vet. But being a vet/POW does not qualify him for to be the leader of the free world.

And being a 'community organizer' doesn't qualify Obama either.

And veterans should be respected as well.

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Again I stated a fact!!!!!How is that disrepecting him??????????????????He said it himself.....So once again How did I disrespect him????

Yeah, generally, you are right. Certainly, I think that McCain's POW experience is something he and the rest of us should be proud of and respect.

But saying that the fact that he served honorably means that we shouldn't criticize him is really just a bit trite. And a farce. It didn't stop anyone in the last election from plastering purple band aids on their faces to demean Kerry's Purple Heart now, did it?

And we all know how factually unbiased they are.

ok..and that chickie who was raped was wearing a short skirt..or in the wrong part of town..so she deserved in..god you are an ass.

That was utterly uncalled for.

It was completely relevant...they are insinuating it was McCains own fault he was captured & beaten for 5 years.

No you are the We were talking about him being a bad pilot. Crashing 5 times, he was such a bad pilot he flew off course-PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD.

I cant help it that is what you think. Your the dumb #*s

The poll numbers getting you mad???

Your logic is flawed. You are denying the antecedent. Just because he was off course when he was shot down, does not mean that if he was not off course that he would not have been shot down.

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Nope, I'm looking forward to 8 years of payback of hatred.

Again. . .your logic is waaay off base. If you are driving in your car and somebody shoots you, that makes you a bad driver?

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Well, that's a bit spooky. It implies that there were eight years of hatred before, and you are anticipating eight years of payback.

My problem, I guess, is that I didn't understand that you hated my side such that I should really be all concerned about devoting myself to "8 years of payback of hatred."

Well, that's your shtick. It's not mine.

I'll tell you as a liberal democrat, the last thing that I'm looking for is payback. I'm looking only for healing. Believe it or reject it, I'm looking for a better day.

November 4. A better day.

That makes no sense......I said he was a bad piliot because he crashed several times, he was shot down BECAUSE HE WAS OFF HIS FLIGHT PLAN. He could not read the instruments in the plane so he was off course.......That is why he is a bad piliot because he was off course. Not being able to stay on the flight plan made him a bad piliot.....I did not say it was his fault he was a POW.....Bad piliot=off course If I was driving my car and drove off the road, yes that makes me a bad driver.....

I too do not want payback . I just want our great wonderful country to receive some relieve and peace and a better ecomony from the last 8 years. We as Americans should all want this for our great wonderful country.... CAtherine

Ahh Obama's war..the one Joe warned us about..a draft sounds like fun!

Lets start by forcibly enlisting every Leftist who complained about "Bush's War", let the "Hate/Blame America First" crowd take the lead with operation human shield.

I won't be available for "Obama's War", I'll be too busy dissenting and trying to undermine his war effort...

Could you show where your getting this info. . .because I have not been able to find that.

Again though. . .your logic is off. There is no way to prove that he was shot down because he was off his flight path. He could have equally been shot down while he was on his flight path. The "cause" of him being shot down is that he was being shot at, not that he was off his flight path.


BTW. . .there are no roads in the air. . .it's more like just being on the wrong street.

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You really are NUTS! Because you don't have a brain of your own, borrow somebody else's to find out how many REPUBLICANS, Independents and conservatives are unhappy and disgusted about the war that BUSH LIED to get the US into. And, again, with you very apparent lack of brain cells, Senator Obama is NOT calling for a draft...he has stated over and over again (but I will try to find a picture book to explain the big words for you) that he believes every citizen has a duty for service to the country, which consists of community services, organizations such as Americorps, the Peace Corps, Inner City organizations, etc as well as voluntary military service. If you have some concrete evidence that he has specifically stated that he will institute a draft PROVE IT!! And not surprised that your intention is to undermine anything (which by the way is anarchy), because it is quite obvious that your best attempt at action will be a kicking, screaming, stick-your-tongue-out temper tantrum that does not tax your mental capacity.

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An old rule seems to apply here, when the facts are on your side argue facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When neither is on your side lie and use personal attacks.

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The McCain campaign strategy in a nutshell.

Sure, McCain should be respected for his service to the country and for his POW imprisonment. And disrespected for much of what he's done since he was released and returned to the US. Doing something admirable when you're young doesn't get you a pass for being a lying jerk when you're older.

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