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Old 10-29-2008, 06:41 PM
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Obama/Khalidi connection LA Times????

I saw something about this at the dentist's office and thought I'd try to get some more information on it. This is a new one to me. Not seeing it's new to all, just to me. I had not heard of it.

The LA Times is saying they told their "source" of the video that they would not release it.

Anyone care to share info. on this??
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According to Wikipedi, Barrack attended a farewell dinner on the occasions of Khalidi leaving the Chicage area. Here is what was said on Wikipedi.

Khalidi's relationship to Barack Obama has come under increasing interest due to the U.S. Presidential race of 2008. Obama made one of the presentations in praise of Khalidi at a 2003 farewell dinner on the occasion of Khalidi leaving the Chicago Area. The dinner was a celebration of the Chicago area Palestinian community. Obama's remarks alluded to the numerous dinners that he had in the home of Rashid Khalidi. During the 2008 election race, opponents of Barack Obama suggested his relationship with Khalidi was evidence that Obama would not maintain a pro-Israel foreign policy if elected.[22] The Obama campaign's Fight the Smears website has posted an entry on Khalidi in order to rebut what was said elsewhere about their relationship, for instance, it denies that Khalidi is or has been one of Obama's foreign policy advisors.[23]

In May of 2008, Barack Obama spoke at a synagogue at an event in Boca Raton, Florida and the question of his relationship with Khalidi was brought up. In response, Obama stated that “[Khalidi] is Palestinian. And I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors; he’s not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel’s policy... To pluck out one person who I know and who I’ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I’m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take…So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.”[24]

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Khalidi stated that he strongly disagrees with Obama's views on Israel. However, because of Obama's "unusual background, with family ties to Kenya and Indonesia," Khalidi stated that he believes that Obama is "more understanding of the Palestinian experience than typical American politicians."[22]

The New York Daily News reported on 3/6/07, "Obama got help from an unlikely source yesterday when pro-Palestinian Prof. Rashid Khalidi denied a report that Obama used to be sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and had recently shifted his stance to pro-Israel. Khalidi spoke to the Daily News to rebut a report on a pro-Palestinian blog that was circulated by Clinton supporters. The blog, the Electronic Intifada, offered no evidence that Obama used to be supportive of the Palestinian cause, but cited private conversations, including one at a 2000 Obama fund-raiser hosted by Khalidi. Khalidi, now head of Columbia University’s Middle East Institute, said he hosted the fundraiser because he was friends with Obama while the two lived in Chicago. ‘He never came to us and said he would do anything in terms of Palestinians,’ Khalidi said."[2
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:04 PM
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Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama - Los Angeles Times
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:34 PM
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…So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.”[24]

Seems as though Obama has many of these 'association' however....

Had this been Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin meeting with this guy, the LA Times would have had it as front page news and happily released the video.

Media bias strikes again!
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:23 PM
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Seems as though Obama has many of these 'association' however....

Had this been Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin meeting with this guy, the LA Times would have had it as front page news and happily released the video.

Media bias strikes again!

Khalidi is a Palestinian-American. That's right, he was born here. He is a highly respected professor and one of the foremost experts in Middle East affairs. His service to this country has been invaluable.

Like Ralph Nader, Paula Abdul, Danny Thomas and daughter, Marlo, Khalidi is of Arab descent.

Reporters are known to protect their sources and they promised the person who gave them the video that they wouldn't show it.

I would roll my eyes at your crass bigotry, but I have to throw up.
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AIA - you no longer surprise me. Disappoint, yes. Surprise, no.

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ummmm.....

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Seems as though Obama has many of these 'association' however....

Had this been Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin meeting with this guy, the LA Times would have had it as front page news and happily released the video.

Media bias strikes again!
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The Khalidi Gambit: McCain Attacks Obama for Connection to Palestinian Activist Whose Work McCain Helped Fund

"McCain has his own connection to Khalidi.In 1993, McCain became chairman of the International Republican Institute. He still chairs that respected organization.

That same year, Khalidi helped found the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, self-described as “an independent academic research and policy analysis institution” created to meet “the need for active Palestinian scholarship on issues related to Palestine.”

Khalidi was on the board of trustees through 1999.

According to tax returns the McCain-chaired IRI funded the organization Khalidi founded and served on to the tune of $448,873 in 1998 and to the tune of $389,621 in 1999 as first reported by Seth Couter Walls at HuffPo.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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The Khalidi Gambit: McCain Attacks Obama for Connection to Palestinian Activist Whose Work McCain Helped Fund

"McCain has his own connection to Khalidi.In 1993, McCain became chairman of the International Republican Institute. He still chairs that respected organization.

That same year, Khalidi helped found the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, self-described as “an independent academic research and policy analysis institution” created to meet “the need for active Palestinian scholarship on issues related to Palestine.”

Khalidi was on the board of trustees through 1999.

According to tax returns the McCain-chaired IRI funded the organization Khalidi founded and served on to the tune of $448,873 in 1998 and to the tune of $389,621 in 1999 as first reported by Seth Couter Walls at HuffPo.

Must be that media bias again.....tsk tsk....
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Of course, all these neo-cons on here spreading fear and hate again..... while their OWN CANDIDATE was on LKL today saying he has not seen the video, does not know was on it, and would not comment on it because of that. The candidate definitely has more class than his supporters here have shown over and over.
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Of course, all these neo-cons on here spreading fear and hate again..... while their OWN CANDIDATE was on LKL today saying he has not seen the video, does not know was on it, and would not comment on it because of that. The candidate definitely has more class than his supporters here have shown over and over.
Thinking Senator McCain should speak to Governor Palin who seems to have gone all mavricky on him again.

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For the last couple of weeks, they have sent Sarah in to do the "dirty work" so McCain can have some little appearance of him not being as nasty as the rest of the campaign.....Considering that Palin believes she will be on the ticket in 2012, I am surprised....
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Of course, all these neo-cons on here spreading fear and hate again..... while their OWN CANDIDATE was on LKL today saying he has not seen the video, does not know was on it, and would not comment on it because of that. The candidate definitely has more class than his supporters here have shown over and over.
Seriously??!!! Hate?!!!

People want to know about the relationship because they would like to know what Obama's real stand on the Palestinian issue is. He says he is Pro-Israelis, but the Palestinian-Americans seem to think that he in Pro-Palestinian. One of those two groups is going to be disappointed. It's a valid question.
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You are going to be the one disappointed when, just as in all the other fact-checked lies and innuendos being thrown against the wall and just hoping one will sooner or later stick, you find out it is all just smoke and mirrors again. As I said, even your own candidate is not touching this one (at least today.....wait till tomorrow when his numbers have not gone up and and feels the need to grab onto anything, just anything....)
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You are going to be the one disappointed when, just as in all the other fact-checked lies and innuendos being thrown against the wall and just hoping one will sooner or later stick, you find out it is all just smoke and mirrors again. As I said, even your own candidate is not touching this one (at least today.....wait till tomorrow when his numbers have not gone up and and feels the need to grab onto anything, just anything....)
Who or what is touching? We simply want to know what Obama's position is. . .not the one he says to pander to the Pro-Israelis. It's an issue because there seems to be a difference in perception by the two groups as to his position.

But this is the typical use of intentional vagueness by Obama.
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Mccain is has connections to him. Mccain gave him a half a million dollars.....
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Mccain is has connections to him. Mccain gave him a half a million dollars.....
What does that have to do with wanting to know Obama's position on the Palistinian/Israeli issue??

We know McCain's position on the issue. The Palistinian-Americans aren't under any impression that he is supporting them.
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What does that have to do with wanting to know Obama's position on the Palistinian/Israeli issue??

We know McCain's position on the issue. The Palistinian-Americans aren't under any impression that he is supporting them.
Palin was saying he was Obama friend. He is Mccains also.
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Palin was saying he was Obama friend. He is Mccains also.
Again. . . .what does that have to do with anything?

I want to know what was on the tape so that I can determine for myself what his position is, since there seems to be some conflicting thought as to what it is. Like I said. . .so. . .we already know McCain's position.
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I'd certainly like to see the video. Obama should ask the LA Times to release it if he doesn't have anything to hide. I'm sure the LA Times would comply w/ his request, sources be damned.
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Palin was saying he was Obama friend. He is Mccains also.
Oh, but that doesn't matter, because McCain, as you know, was a POW and therefore is above suspicion! Didn't you get the memo? Everyone Obama knows is suspect, and everyone McCain knows is a loyal patriot -- even when it's the same people.
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Wow. Just more smoke and mirrors from a losing campaign. And every time McCain's campaign comes up with something supposed to make Obama look bad, they come out looking a lot worse. No wonder every day the electoral college map is leaning more and more in Obama's favor. People just don't want to hear this stuff.

Even Fox news has to admit Obama is not against Israel

YouTube - Fox News defends Obama against Anti-Israeli accusations!!
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Oh, but that doesn't matter, because McCain, as you know, was a POW and therefore is above suspicion! Didn't you get the memo? Everyone Obama knows is suspect, and everyone McCain knows is a loyal patriot -- even when it's the same people.
Oh shoot, I miss that memo. Thanks that explains a lot.
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Awe already know McCain's position.
And what is it? Today that is.
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And what is it? Today that is.
Same as it's always been:

Today, John McCain Addressed The AIPAC Policy Conference Outlining His Vision For Israel's Security And The Middle East. The United States and Israel are the most natural of allies and that alliance will stand forever. John McCain will honor America's promise of "never again" against any enemy.

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I'd certainly like to see the video. Obama should ask the LA Times to release it if he doesn't have anything to hide. I'm sure the LA Times would comply w/ his request, sources be damned.
The video is the property of the person who gave it to the LA Times. This person does not want the video shown. Obama is not involved.
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The video is the property of the person who gave it to the LA Times. This person does not want the video shown. Obama is not involved.
And that begs the question why they don't want the video shown.
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Seems as though Obama has many of these 'association' however....

Had this been Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin meeting with this guy, the LA Times would have had it as front page news and happily released the video.

Media bias strikes again!



If its so innocent, then why not publish it.....Surely the liberal media isnt hiding something for Barry????? Sherri
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If its so innocent, then why not publish it.....Surely the liberal media isnt hiding something for Barry????? Sherri
Why should they? Because YOU said so?
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Why should they? Because YOU said so?

Now that was a stupid remark No they should publish it to show Barry has nothing to hide....if I were him I wouldnt want people wondering if something was being covered up for me. If he is as pure as the driven snow like some of you believe, then whats the big deal release it and show your supporters your clean of any wrong doing......Whats the matter, are you afraid of what it might reveal about The Chosen one????? Sherri
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If its so innocent, then why not publish it.....Surely the liberal media isnt hiding something for Barry????? Sherri
It isn't the medias possession. It isn't theirs to publish. Why don't you or the oldguy ask the owner for it if you thank its pertinent.
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It isn't the medias possession. It isn't theirs to publish. Why don't you or the oldguy ask the owner for it if you thank its pertinent.
Could you please show where you're getting that from. Because the tape is, in fact, the possession of the LA Times. It is their's to publish if they so choose. They were asked by the source not to publish it, but it is still entirely up to them whether they do or not.
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Wow, you people really don't understand the press at all, do you?
We DO understand. That's the whole point.
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Now that was a stupid remark No they should publish it to show Barry has nothing to hide....if I were him I wouldnt want people wondering if something was being covered up for me. If he is as pure as the driven snow like some of you believe, then whats the big deal release it and show your supporters your clean of any wrong doing......Whats the matter, are you afraid of what it might reveal about The Chosen one????? Sherri

Why was that a stupid remark? I swear, you are one of the rudest persons that posts here. Lots of the women here are passionate people and post their remarks with lots of thought and research. Some don't but for the most part they do no matter what side they sit on. But you, you come here with vile, mean degrading posts. But no substance. You don't post any real answers of thought and maybe it is because you don't have any. All you know is to put Obama down, call him names, call other people stupid and use the little happy/sad faces on the side of the posts. Oh, and lots of things "make you sick".

There, got that off my chest.

Now for your answer....I don't and obviously the rest of those people who will be casting their votes on Tuesday for Obama/Biden care about it so obviously to me it is a non issue. I don't think he is pure as the driven snow nor do I think he is the chosen one.( But he is the one we are voting for because we belive in him.)Those are your words and I know there is not ONE single person who is "liberal" has ever posted that they thought he was the chosen one or pure as the driven snow. You are the one saying that. Doctors might say that perhaps you are projecting and you really feel that he is pure and your chosen one.
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you're kidding, right? Jeanie & Truble win the rude vile contest hands down!

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Why was that a stupid remark? I swear, you are one of the rudest persons that posts here. Lots of the women here are passionate people and post their remarks with lots of thought and research. Some don't but for the most part they do no matter what side they sit on. But you, you come here with vile, mean degrading posts. But no substance. You don't post any real answers of thought and maybe it is because you don't have any. All you know is to put Obama down, call him names, call other people stupid and use the little happy/sad faces on the side of the posts. Oh, and lots of things "make you sick".

There, got that off my chest.
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Why was that a stupid remark? I swear, you are one of the rudest persons that posts here. Lots of the women here are passionate people and post their remarks with lots of thought and research. Some don't but for the most part they do no matter what side they sit on. But you, you come here with vile, mean degrading posts. But no substance. You don't post any real answers of thought and maybe it is because you don't have any. All you know is to put Obama down, call him names, call other people stupid and use the little happy/sad faces on the side of the posts. Oh, and lots of things "make you sick".

There, got that off my chest.

Now for your answer....I don't and obviously the rest of those people who will be casting their votes on Tuesday for Obama/Biden care about it so obviously to me it is a non issue. I don't think he is pure as the driven snow nor do I think he is the chosen one.( But he is the one we are voting for because we belive in him.)Those are your words and I know there is not ONE single person who is "liberal" has ever posted that they thought he was the chosen one or pure as the driven snow. You are the one saying that. Doctors might say that perhaps you are projecting and you really feel that he is pure and your chosen one.
Maybe not you, but you have to admit there are some that think Obama is infallible. (hint: Oh Ricky!) It's frustrating when people won't admit that they are lying and hiding the truth. I kinda agree, this should be a non-issue (kinda like the birth certificate stuff). I don't care that he met with Palestinian-American's or that he was friends with one of them. What the issue is, for me, is not being transparent. Why would they not release the tape if there isn't something contorversial on it? It's kind of like the whole ACORN thing. Supporters have every right to say they aren't bothered by the association with ACORN, and that's fair. But don't lie to me about it. I think that is an affront to my intelligence and my ability to make judgements for myself. For God's sake just tell the truth and let reasonable people be the judge!
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Why was that a stupid remark? I swear, you are one of the rudest persons that posts here. Lots of the women here are passionate people and post their remarks with lots of thought and research. Some don't but for the most part they do no matter what side they sit on. But you, you come here with vile, mean degrading posts. But no substance. You don't post any real answers of thought and maybe it is because you don't have any. All you know is to put Obama down, call him names, call other people stupid and use the little happy/sad faces on the side of the posts. Oh, and lots of things "make you sick".

There, got that off my chest.

Now for your answer....I don't and obviously the rest of those people who will be casting their votes on Tuesday for Obama/Biden care about it so obviously to me it is a non issue. I don't think he is pure as the driven snow nor do I think he is the chosen one.( But he is the one we are voting for because we belive in him.)Those are your words and I know there is not ONE single person who is "liberal" has ever posted that they thought he was the chosen one or pure as the driven snow. You are the one saying that. Doctors might say that perhaps you are projecting and you really feel that he is pure and your chosen one.

OH my if you think I am one of the rudest..you havent been around here long enough....there are many here who have nothing to say but something rude....I just said in my post if the liberal media has nothing to hide why not publish it...and you come back with some lame comment like "Why because you say so???? I thought you were rude....Why not publish something that is true....good or bad..or do you agree with hiding things to make your candidate look good.....Around here if you can dish it out...you better be able to take it.....And here's a wink for ya..... LOLOLOL Sherri
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you're kidding, right? Jeanie & Truble win the rude vile contest hands down!
Thank you so much for your vote. I had some pretty stiff competition, including yourself! Glad to hear you think I came out on top, because your opinion is very valuable.
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This is a completely manufactured controversy by the McCain campaign.
"I’ve followed his career for many years, read his articles and books, listened to his presentations, and engaged him in discussions of politics, the arts, and history. In fact, as McCarthy’s piece ran, I was midway through an advance copy of Khalidi’s new book Sowing Crisis: The Cold War and American Dominance in the Middle East. (I’ll be reviewing it next month–stay tuned.) Rashid Khalidi is an American academic of extraordinary ability and sharp insights. He is also deeply committed to stemming violence in the Middle East, promoting a culture that embraces human rights as a fundamental notion, and building democratic societies. In a sense, Khalidi’s formula for solving the Middle East crisis has not been radically different from George W. Bush’s: both believe in American values and approaches. However, whereas Bush believes these values can be introduced in the wake of bombs and at the barrel of a gun, Khalidi disagrees. He sees education and civic activism as the path to success, and he argues that pervasive military interventionism has historically undermined the Middle East and will continue to do so. Khalidi has also been one of the most articulate critics of the PLO and the Palestinian Authority—calling them repeatedly on their anti-democratic tendencies and their betrayals of their own principles. Khalidi is also a Palestinian American. There is no doubt in my mind that it is solely that last fact that informs McCarthy’s ignorant and malicious rants."
The New McCarthyism?By Scott Horton (Harper's Magazine)
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you're kidding, right? Jeanie & Truble win the rude vile contest hands down!
Damn...story of my life.

Always a bridesmaid.

Can I at least be Miss Congeniality?
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Can I at least be Miss Congeniality?
Heck, no, Sherrie's got that one in the bag. She's so pleasant, so sweet and so agreeable.
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Rats. Maybe I will just go hang out with Miss Teen South Carolina and lick my wounds.
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Rats. Maybe I will just go hang out with Miss Teen South Carolina and lick my wounds.
What will you talk about?
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What will you talk about?
Maybe she can get some suggestions from Gov. Palin. She and Miss SC seem to have so much in common.
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Biased Media Reporter : "So, Kelliiii and Miss Teen USA S. Carolina....tell us how you feel about both McCain's and Obama's association with this guy Khalidi? Do you really think American voters will really take note of this latest scandal?"

Miss Teen USA S. Carolina : "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as."

Biased Media Reporter: "Ummmm, okay. Kelliiii, care to comment on this one?"

Kelliiii "Is it Nov. 4th yet?"

Time to change the station already. Next....
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Did you know that McCain called Biden, "Joe the Biden" yesterday? As my son used to say, "Nuff!"
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I call McCain "John the Craven" and Palin "Sarah the Socialist Spendthrift."
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