"It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order."
AP: Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally

Yeah, what a hoot this whole story is..first you have Obama saying in his book it's up to family to take care of each other..then we have ole auntie living on public assistance in public housing with no help from family aka HIM..THEN she's not even legally here!

Maybe he should try spreading his wealth around his own family lol!
Humm let's see....she’s an illegal alien, lives in taxpayer funded public housing, provides an illegal campaign contribution to Obama...makes you wonder if she’s a registered democrat voter?

Yep, and his ailing grandmother still lives in the 2 bedroom apartment where he was raised. You know one of the first things celebrities do when they make it, is buy their parents a house. I guess Barak couldn't be bothered with helping out the woman who sacrificed so much for him. It really speaks volumes about his character.

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Is it possible that this Auntie is holding his real birth certificate for him?

It sure does show his lack of character and decency. Why is the aunt living in public housing and on welfare when Obama is a millionaire?

I thought families are *off-limits*. Correct? Sarah Palin's family was given the respect of privacy when news of Bristol Palin's unwed teen pregnancy came out, and the irrelevence of having an unwed, teenaged pregnant daughter to her candidacy was touted in the press especially in light of the "family values" party she espouses.

Doesn't Obama's family deserve the same privacy and respect? Isn't this even MORE irrelevent to his campaign?

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Did you see she contributed the max to his campaign? That would be ILLEGAL contributions since non residents cannot contribute..

Not when OUR tax dollars are paying for her rent..not when she is ILLEGALLY contributing to his campaign, not when he so high & mightily talks about family & how it's up to family to take care of their own in his book.

I so disagree--this is an illegal activity. A 16 y/o getting pregnant while unfortunate and potentially heartbreaking, is not illegal.

And even without intruding on the "family"--this Aunt's citizenship status is a legal issue, that does reflect on Obama.

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This is a half-aunt, not a full aunt -- and since when are we responsible for the actions of our adult relatives? If anything, Palin is far more responsible for own child's behavior , while the child is living in her home, than Obama can possibly be for an distant relative.

ETA: The real story, since Obama has already indicated that he believes the laws should be followed, is who and why leaked this information.

Smells Rovian to me. Typical Republican mudslinging.

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The government is not paying for Palins child's pregnancy.

The real story is..

Obama tossed another one under the bus, this time a relative.

Palin is not asking us to support Bristol or her baby. She is taking care of her own. Obama is asking us to "spread our wealth" when he is perfectly capable of taking care of his own. Then of course, there is the whole illegal thing.

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Sure,...here's another one.....Obama didn't know. Just like that wasnt the Bill Ayers he knew and he didnt know that his own Rev had sermons that were full of anti white and anti-American themes. Thats always his answser...He didnt know....It seems he doesnt know much about anything.....and if thats the case...Why should he be President?????????

Oh and here's a video of Barack talking about how Rev. Wright is the best that the Black church can offer and how he inspires him??????? Guess he forgot about that too....He is a liar a total liar......Sherri

YouTube - Obama Speaks Of Rev. Wright In This 1995 Interview

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Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status - Yahoo! News

he did not know her growing up. Most likely he has a lot of relatives on his dad side that he does not know. He seen his dad one time. His Grandmom is probably like a lot of people that grew up during the Great depression, she has that apartment it is good enough. My Grandmom was the same way. She had the money to get a better house, but she stay in her little house, because it was good enough for her and it was paid for.

Why would it need to, given that nice chunk of socialist change her mommy sends her every year? Another 3,200 coming into the Palin family coffers. Nice work if you can get it. Oh wait -- she doesn't work for it, does she?

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Hmm, this is the aunt he specifically wrote about in his book...

You are so predictable, say nothing about the topic on hand, deflect to another topic which is not relevant in any way shape or form, so please tell us your thoughts on the topics of barrys Aunt living on the dole & donating to his campaign illegally. Wanna bet she votes too?

I'm so sorry, I thought we were talking about the families of the candidates. Did you change the topic? Or are we only going to talk about Obama's distant relatives, instead of Palin's immediate family?

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See..not possible for you to do.

whom he never knew growing up.
That is from the article.

He went to Kenya to meet his dad side of the family. He did not know her grown up, went to see her one time. He did not know that she was in this country. How could he have done anything? He stated that the law should be followed. He gave back the 265 that she gave him. I dont see what the issue is.

It seems some cannot figure out the difference between a pregnant TEENAGER and an adult living off the public dole illegally. Yet we're called stupid. I find this issue so very relevant. This man calls those of us who want to hold onto our own money to take care of our own families, SELFISH. Yet, he clearly is selfish in that he doesn't take care of his family. Charity starts at home, Mr. Obama. Don't take from me and my family when you are NOT willing to take care of your family. I do not care that this is not his immediate family either (although I think a brother is still considered immediate family in most situations). Mr. Obama is a millionaire. He should be willing to take care of his relatives to a certain extent. Why would he not help out his brother living in squalor in Kenya? Why would he not get his auntie off the public dole in the US? I can't believe that he knew nothing about it either. He just didn't want it found out. Finally, I do believe the British press is who started this investigation. Yet now it referred to as republican mudslinging. How is pointing out the fact that his aunt is here possibly illegally and living off OUR taxpayers, mudslinging?

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"To any critics who say a woman can't think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I'd just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave." - Sarah Palin

The issue is..from his book, he qwent on & on about family & it was up to family to be that rock & how he realized he was to be that rock...but he surely wasn't a rock now was he?

I love how fast he tossed her behind under the bus...I guess family isn't so important now.

I seem to remember that the press was making fun of Chelsea Clinton's appearance. Unofficially they took heed and dropped it due to her being a minor. The Bush girls have largely been out of the spotlight (not totally) and I think this continues to current times with the pregnancy of a minor child.

Attacks and negativity on a minor is inexcusable, whereas an adult is open fpr discussion. Overall, that's how I have observed most of the conduct of the press in recent memory.

What I question is, if she (or anyone)is on the public dole, where did she get the $$$$ to donate to ANY campaign?????? I don't care which party. If you depend on US to support you, then you shouldn't have enough "x-tra" to be contibuting to ANY political campaign. You need to be feeding yourself, paying your heat bill, rent, etc. If you have xtra $$$ that WE have provided for you and you don't need it for NECESSITIES, maybe your welfare needs to be lowered!!!!!! This goes for Republicans, Democrats, Libertarian, undecided.......EVERYONE!!!

You're so predictable. So obvious.

We all know what you'd be saying if it were McCain's distant half-aunt vs. Obama's pregnant and unwed teenage daughter.

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If you want to believe he didn't know his aunt was an illegal then you have to question his judgement. If I were running for President you better believe I would be looking into to my foreign born relative's status in this country.
Obama knew...he just didn't count on it getting out.

And your proof for this is? Oh, none. Of course not.

Are you remotely interested in the fact that someone broke a law to release this information? The Bushies like to do that, you know. Valerie Plame ring a bell?

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yep, who ever released this information, should have just turned Auntie over to INS/ICE--and it should have only hit the news when she was arrested and deported.

I read the article. This is not some long-lost distant relative! She came here on a visitor visa at Obama's invitation. She attended his swearing in when he was elected in 2004. Per the article: she spoke w/ him 2 years ago. There is not any mention of a falling out amongst family or what have you. Obama knew she was in the States.

I find the notion that he didn't know to be suspect at best, an outright lie at worst.

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What I find interesting about this comment and others like it is that it is clear that nothing Obama did would have made a difference to you all. If he had financially supported his aunt, you would have been saying, "Obama Supports Illegal Alien!!!" When he doesn't provide her with support, you say, "Where is his family feeling?"

And who would ever support removing an ageing grandmother from her family home, even if you think it is tiny and unworthy? I know that it almost took dynamite to remove my grandmother from her home, even when it was falling down around her, and in retrospect, we regret the decision. I would have liked her to die, and she would have preferred to die, in her home instead of the assisted living community that she barely tolerated.

Personally, I'd hate to think that people looked at my parents during the years that my Grandmother lived in her little, shabby house, and said, "Jeez, they are doing so well. Why do they let Grandma live in such a bad house? Selfish, that's what they are. 'It speaks volumes about [their] character.'"

Fortunately, I don't think that anyone harbored such ill-spirited beliefs. They judged my parents on the love that they had for my Grandmother, and not based on where she lived.

Are your families really so different than mine? Do you really not have uncles or aunts or cousins that you don't know everything about? Don't you have grandmothers or grandfathers who cling to their homes?

If you really, really want to talk about how candidates should know what close relatives do, I can bring up again Cindy McCain's drug addiction, her prescription theft, and the intervention that her family didn't even invite John McCain to attend.

Because, like it or not, a person not being there for his wife is one helluva lot worse than not knowing everything about an aunt and not moving a grandma out of a home that you think isn't grand enough.

Do you speak to your close relatives only once every two years?

I speak to them a bit more than that. I hope Palin spoke to Bristol more than that. Oops, sorry, only Obama's family, I forgot.

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?????He did not know she was here??????Here is the best part if he would of done something to help her. Everybody would be screaming he is doing favors. He does take care of his family. You guys are the same one screaming socialism. They were not close, he did not know she was here so WTH was he suppose to do. Contact Palin witch hunter to let him know? It is mudslinging it has NOTHING to do with this race. Just like Palins daughter being pregant has nothing to do with this race.

You cant believe that. They have throwing everything at him everything. Do you know how many relatives he probably has over there. His dad has 7 wives.

Kinda like the fact the Joe the plumber has been ambushed....someone has released much of his personal information....Isnt that against the law too?????? Evidently the Obamies like to do the same thing....Sherri

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You forget so quickly, Sherri -- it wasn't Obama that made Joe the unlicense plumber famous -- it was McCain. And it's Joe who's gone out of his way to stay in the limelight.

I know, that doesn't fit the storyline you prefer. The facts rarely do.

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Again you didnt answer the question....Isnt it against the law to reveal his personal information also???? Where are you facts on that/???? And maybe he does like the limelight, what does that have to do with what I asked...stop avoiding the question with your sarcasm....Sherri

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Joe the Plumber was already famous before McCain brought him up in the debate. The video was all over the internet before then.

What I find interesting is that in the UK article, the aunt says she is not allowed to talk about it until after Nov. 4th. Why would that be, and who asked her not to?

Another significat tidbit being overlooked is that somebody in the administration was asking all deportations before the election be cleared through the higher ups before they happened. Seems like somebody in that evil Bush administration was trying to protect Obama. Go figure.

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What personal information about him was "revealed" that wasn't a public record?

Or, to put it your way: What personal information about him was "revealed" that wasn't a public record?????????????

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Would that be Joe the Aspiring Country Singer, but Maybe Not, who Hired a Nashville Publicity Agent?

Talk about wearing out 15 minutes of fame. I actually think that one of the McCain/Palin's great missteps was thinking that we don't recognize this guy for what he is.

Poor, poor, Joe the Plumber. Dragging his unlicensed, tax-owing butt to the bank based solely upon the fact that the McCain/Palin campaign decided that he (WTF??) should be the symbol of the Republican party.

Why aren't you who are Republican pissed upon this? Joe the Plumber is decreed as your national symbol? Come on. That's the best that you can do?

Sad, sad, sad.

You are kidding me, aren't you? You really believe that the Bush administration was trying to help Obama?

I've encountered wacky, conspiratal minded folks before, but this?

What is the color of the sun in your world?

The Columbus Dispatch : Government computers used to find information on Joe the Plumber

Just because the man asked a question to a candidate doesnt give people the right to investigate him and do so illegally...if you got to ask Obama something...would you want all your personal info put in newspapers and on the internet???? I dont think so....They have looked at his tax info, vehicle registration,investigated him for child support, printed all kinds of things about is work, and his schooling or non schooling....it just isnt right....THey wanted to dig up any dirt they could on this guy....and its just a shame...SHerri

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Well, I guess MSNBC is wacky then too.

Directive may reflect political sensitivity

Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The directive suggests that the administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680/

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Who is THEY?

From your own article : That's right "whether," because it's not clear one way or the other.

If Joe's so worried about his privacy, maybe he wants to think twice about hiring a publicist.

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How did he toss her behind the bus? He did not know she was here. What did you want him to do??

Yeah yeah..and I've got a bridge..what a crock he didn't know she was in the US...

He can thank Mccain and himself for that. It was the news people who dug up the info on Joe the plumber.I find it funny he was crying leave me alone, but still showing up riding his 15 minutes of fame. Poor Joe nothing he is loving every minute of this.

Boy, the stench of desperation coming off the Republicans is overwhelming.

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More info.

Clerk charged with unlawful search of Joe the Plumber : News : WNWO NBC24

"Toledo Police have confirmed that a TPD records clerk is accused of performing an illegal search of information related to 'Joe the Plumber.'

Julie McConnell, has been charged with Gross Misconduct for allegedly making an improper inquiry into a state database in search of information pertaining to Samuel Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16.

Wurzelbacher came under the spotlight after being spoken about during the final presidential debate between Barack Obama and John McCain.

The inquiry into Wurzelbacher's record is a violation of department and state policy governing the use of the Law Enforcement Automated Data System. The clerk is under fire for making the inquiry for a non-law enforcement purpose.

McConnell was hired by the Toledo Police Department in April 1995 and assigned to the Investigative Services Bureau.

A discplinary hearing will be scheduled within the next ten days."

"Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Ms Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the “Auntie Zeituni” in Mr Obama’s memoir. She declined to answer most other questions about her relationship with the presidential contender until after the November 4 election. “I can’t talk about it, I just pray for him, that’s all,” she said, adding: “After the 4th, I can talk to anyone.”
Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango - Times Online

If Obama didn't know she was here....who then would be telling her not to talk until after the election?

We're not suppose to be smart enough to figure that out. You know how much they look down upon independent thinking. . . .it goes against that herd mentality they like to promote so much.

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So true!
If she is poor enough to live in subsidized housing, where does she get the money to jet back and forth to Kenya?

I've never said that Obama should support an illegal. He should have made sure she returned to where she came from in a timely manner or worked on her being here legally. Why does he not help out his brother who lives in squalor? I guess he's certainly not his brother's keeper.

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