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Old 11-01-2008, 01:47 AM
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Obama speechwriter says "see ya, I'm voting McCain"

I realize this will never show up in the mainstream media because they are too busy looking under rocks for "lifelong Republicans" who are switching to Obama. Funny they never seem to find long time Dems switching.

Since I started writing speeches more than ten years ago, I have always believed in the Democratic Party. Not anymore. Not after the election of 2008. This transformation has been swift and complete and since I’m a woman writing in the election of 2008, “very emotional.” . . .

The final straw came the other week when Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (a.k.a Joe the Plumber) asked a question about higher taxes for small businesses. Instead of celebrating his aspirations, they were mocked. He wasn’t “a real plumber,” and “They’re fighting for Joe the Hedge-Fund manager,” and the patronizing, “I’ve got nothing but love for Joe the Plumber.”

Having worked in politics, I know that absolutely none of this is on the level. This back and forth is posturing, a charade, and a political game. These lines are what I refer to as “hooker lines”—a sure thing to get applause and the press to scribble as if they’re reporting meaningful news.

As the nation slouches toward disaster, the level of political discourse is unworthy of this moment in history. We have Republicans raising Ayers and Democrats fostering ageism with “erratic” and jokes about Depends. Sexism. Racism. Ageism and maybe some Socialism have all made their ugly cameos in election 2008. It’s not inspiring. Perhaps this is why I found the initial mocking of Joe so offensive and I realized an old line applied: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.”

The party I believed in wouldn’t look down on working people under any circumstance. And Joe the Plumber is right. This is the absolutely worst time to raise taxes on anyone: the rich, the middle class, the poor, small businesses and corporations.

Our economy is in the tank for many complicated reasons, especially because people don’t have enough money. So let them keep it. Let businesses keep it so they can create jobs and stay here and weather this storm. And yet, the Democratic ideology remains the same. Our approach to problems—big government solutions paid for by taxing the rich and big and smaller companies—is just as tired and out of date as trickle down economics. How about a novel approach that simply finds a sane way to stop the bleeding?

That’s not exactly the philosophy of a Democrat. Not only has this party belittled working people in this campaign from Joe the Plumber to the bitter comments, it has also been part of tearing down two female candidates. At first, certain Democrats and the press called Senator Clinton “dishonest.” They went after her cleavage. They said her experience as First Lady consisted of having tea parties. There was no outrage over “Bros before Hoes” or “Iron My Shirt.” Did Senator Clinton make mistakes? Of course. She’s human.


So Long, Democrats - The Daily Beast
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:59 PM
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Here are the portions I really appreciate.

Here we are discussing Governor Palin’s clothes—oh wait, now we’re on to the make-up—not what either man is going to do to save our economy. This isn’t an accident. It is part of a manufactured narrative that she is stupid.

Governor Palin and I don’t agree on a lot of things, mostly social issues. But I have grown to appreciate the Governor. I was one of those initial skeptics and would laugh at the pictures. Not anymore. When someone takes on a corrupt political machine and a sitting governor, that is not done by someone with a low I.Q. or a moral core made of tissue paper. When someone fights her way to get scholarships and work her way through college even in a jagged line, that shows determination and humility you can’t learn from reading Reinhold Niebuhr. When a mother brings her son with special needs onto the national stage with love, honesty, and pride, that gives hope to families like mine as my older brother lives with a mental disability. And when someone can sit on a stage during the Sarah Palin rap on Saturday Night Live, put her hands in the air and watch someone in a moose costume get shot—that’s a sign of both humor and humanity.

Has she made mistakes? Of course, she’s human too. But the attention paid to her mistakes has been unprecedented compared to Senator Obama’s “57 states” remarks or Senator Biden using a version of the Samuel Johnson quote, “There’s nothing like a hanging in the morning to focus a man’s thoughts.”

But thank God for election 2008. We can talk about the wardrobe and make-up even though most people don’t understand the details about Senator Obama’s plan with Iraq. When he says, “all combat troops,” he’s not talking about all troops—it leaves a residual force of as large as 55,000 indefinitely. That’s not ending the war; that’s half a war.

I was dead wrong about the surge and thought it would be a disaster. Senator John McCain led when many of us were ready to quit. Yet we march on as if nothing has changed, wedded to an old plan, and that too is a long way from the Democratic Party.

I can no longer justify what this party has done and can’t dismiss the treatment of women and working people as just part of the new kind of politics. It’s wrong and someone has to say that. And also say that the Democratic Party’s talking points—that Senator John McCain is just four more years of the same and that he’s President Bush—are now just hooker lines that fit a very effective and perhaps wave-winning political argument…doesn’t mean they’re true. After all, he is the only one who’s worked in a bipartisan way on big challenges.
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:14 PM
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When I think of all the people who have been sucked in by Obama and his talking points, by his smooth speeches and his arrogance, I am literally brought to tears. We are in for a terrible shock because what he is selling is not good for our country. In fact, what we hear him selling, is not what we are going to get.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:09 PM
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I couldn't have said it better!
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:20 PM
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When I think of all the people who have been sucked in by Obama and his talking points, by his smooth speeches and his arrogance, I am literally brought to tears. We are in for a terrible shock because what he is selling is not good for our country. In fact, what we hear him selling, is not what we are going to get.
You might want to invest in Kleenex if that's what it takes to make you cry.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:42 PM
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We are in for a terrible shock because what he is selling is not good for our country. In fact, what we hear him selling, is not what we are going to get.
Deja Vu.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:14 PM
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I think I'll buy stock in Kleenex.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:43 PM
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Here's the thing. At least I see it, and many others will begin to see it. You have been decieved, and you will probably never recognize it. Buy your stock in Kleenex, it's called grief. Make fun of it if you will, but it is real, and I'm not alone.

( i realize that this will lead to Bush. Don't bother.)
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:17 PM
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Here's the thing. At least I see it, and many others will begin to see it. You have been decieved, and you will probably never recognize it. Buy your stock in Kleenex, it's called grief. Make fun of it if you will, but it is real, and I'm not alone.

( i realize that this will lead to Bush. Don't bother.)
Of course you're not alone. Half of us have been crying for eight long years. The deception was on the other foot then, wasn't it? Or maybe not . . . maybe Bush supporters did know what he was and voted for him anyway.

Sorry, just wanted to let you know you're not alone . . .
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:57 PM
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Here's the thing. At least I see it, and many others will begin to see it. You have been decieved, and you will probably never recognize it. Buy your stock in Kleenex, it's called grief. Make fun of it if you will, but it is real, and I'm not alone.

( i realize that this will lead to Bush. Don't bother.)
I think you are right.

Barack Obama lays plans to deaden expectation after election victory - Times Online
(October 31, 2008)

"Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:07 PM
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Here's the thing. At least I see it, and many others will begin to see it. You have been decieved, and you will probably never recognize it. Buy your stock in Kleenex, it's called grief. Make fun of it if you will, but it is real, and I'm not alone.

( i realize that this will lead to Bush. Don't bother.)
I was curled up in a ball on my sofa after the 2004 election because I knew what he had done to this country and how much more he would do to damage the country.

My feelings were based on facts. Yours are based on innuendo.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:14 PM
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You are so out of touch with reality, it's frightening.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:32 PM
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I think you are right.

Barack Obama lays plans to deaden expectation after election victory - Times Online
(October 31, 2008)

"Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”.
Well that certainly sums things up well, doesn't it? It's not really a surprise however given Obama's completely unrealistic promises. I just have to shake my head...
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