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Old 11-05-2008, 01:14 PM
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Arrow Guess I'll Start the Thread - Who is Unhappy?

Okay. Someone has to start this thread on the Election Board. I saw over on The Cafe board more opinions than over here where everyone seems to be in an election daze. Seems the folks at The Cafe at least have opinions.

I am disappointed Sen. McCain didn't win and Obama won. It seems like in every election for a few days anyway, we hear the winning candidates say they'll work together over party lines, that America must come together. Then nothing ever happens. It happens in every election.

This definitely was a defining election. I've never seen as many people voting, a huge number voting for the very first time, even though we've had other elections where they obviously didn't think those elections were all that important. I'm glad that everyone did come out to vote. That says a lot about our generations to come.

However, I'm not happy that Obama won. Obama is the most liberal in the Senate. His values aren't my values. I think he is very inexperienced. I know it's a milestone in history. I just hope everyone didn't just jump on the bandwagon because he is new and says he can offer the 'moon'. Obama will have to prove to me and others that he is ready for the job and prove to me that he can be more than just words.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:34 PM
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I keep hearing this "his values aren't my values" thing. I believe most people in the US value the same things; however, our differences lie in how we want to arrive at the desired outcome. Those differences are policy, not values differences.

I do hope he is able to gain your trust and respect. If not, you can do what many of us have done over the last 7.5 years. Deal with the reality of the situation and work to change the administration.
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I just hope that when he can't provide everything he promised the people that voted for him don't start complaining. I would liek to think that maybe now that all these new people are energized that maybe more will take advantage of voting in the future.
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I am not as disappointed as I thought I would be, surprisingly. In a way, I'm glad. No longer can people use the "race" issue for not being able to better themselves. I have heard a lot of "the bad white man keeping us down". Well, I don't think that line can be used anymore. I had heard and read that 96% of the black vote went to Obama. I think if it were mentioned that way for McCain (96% of the white vote goes to McCain) there would be discussions about this.

The country was ready for change, wether it is the change of having a black president, someone who promises change, whatever....the majority wanted some sort of change.

We'll see how it all shakes out. I'm willing to give this administration a chance.

I have to say this, and I know, it's not a nice thing to say, but, I don't know if I can stomach 4 (or more) years of Michelle Obama. I just can't get passed her teeth/mouth. I know, I told you it was bad, but, hey, I'm being honest, right???

Oh, I'm also not happy with the way he is being placed so incredibly high on a pedestal. The higher you are, the further you can fall.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:01 PM
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I am dissapointed. Although I did not expect McCain to win...I know sounds dumb to say it. I guess I could see it coming. I bothered by his lack of experience. I live in Illinois where he was our "Senator" Never did anything for us in the very short time he was here.

I just hope he will actually do something and not just talk about it!
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:03 PM
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I am not as disappointed as I thought I would be, surprisingly. In a way, I'm glad. No longer can people use the "race" issue for not being able to better themselves. I have heard a lot of "the bad white man keeping us down". Well, I don't think that line can be used anymore. I had heard and read that 96% of the black vote went to Obama. I think if it were mentioned that way for McCain (96% of the white vote goes to McCain) there would be discussions about this.

The country was ready for change, wether it is the change of having a black president, someone who promises change, whatever....the majority wanted some sort of change.

We'll see how it all shakes out. I'm willing to give this administration a chance.

I have to say this, and I know, it's not a nice thing to say, but, I don't know if I can stomach 4 (or more) years of Michelle Obama. I just can't get passed her teeth/mouth. I know, I told you it was bad, but, hey, I'm being honest, right???

Oh, I'm also not happy with the way he is being placed so incredibly high on a pedestal. The higher you are, the further you can fall.
I did some checking on-line and the black vote percentage is normally high for Democrats, some sights stating 88% for Gore and 92% for Clinton. So, 96% while a few points higher for Obama, seems to be in-line with the voting trend. I wonder why this is?
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:04 PM
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I have not said much since Obama won. I was just letting the Dem (and some others) on the board enjoy their moment.

I guess I am mostly sad because I believe that a majority of the voters were voting on emotions.
Emotions of first black president, emotions of wanting change, etc. I think people are looking for change without considering exactly what the change is all about.

I also agree with (allinaugust) that this should put to rest the issue that race holds some people back.

I think the Republicans and Independents need to start planning for 2010 elections in Congress.
There is a lot of work that needs to be done in this country. But I usually do not agree with the path the Dem. chose. So, I will still try to work within the system of getting more Republicans voted in.

I was pleased that my House of Rep. managed to keep his position. He was a Republican that did not vote for the bailout plan.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:13 PM
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I of course, wanted Obama to win but I can empathize with your feelings. That is the way I felt during the last two elections.

If John McCain would have won, I would have been okay with it simply because I believe that both men love this country and I have to believe that they won't do worse than what we have now.

I am struck by the people who are so surprised by the way the election turned out. The polls were right and though I am happy the way it turned out this way, I can only hope that you will give Obama a chance.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:16 PM
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I have not said much since Obama won. I was just letting the Dem (and some others) on the board enjoy their moment.

I guess I am mostly sad because I believe that a majority of the voters were voting on emotions.
Emotions of first black president, emotions of wanting change, etc. I think people are looking for change without considering exactly what the change is all about.

I also agree with (allinaugust) that this should put to rest the issue that race holds some people back.

I think the Republicans and Independents need to start planning for 2010 elections in Congress.
There is a lot of work that needs to be done in this country. But I usually do not agree with the path the Dem. chose. So, I will still try to work within the system of getting more Republicans voted in.

I was pleased that my House of Rep. managed to keep his position. He was a Republican that did not vote for the bailout plan.
Why do you feel like only the Republicans vote on issues while the "majority of the voters voted on emotions"? Is it so hard to believe that as strongly as you supported your candidate, those who wanted Obama understood the issues and voted accordingly?
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:22 PM
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I am not as disappointed as I thought I would be, surprisingly. In a way, I'm glad. No longer can people use the "race" issue for not being able to better themselves. I have heard a lot of "the bad white man keeping us down". Well, I don't think that line can be used anymore. I had heard and read that 96% of the black vote went to Obama. I think if it were mentioned that way for McCain (96% of the white vote goes to McCain) there would be discussions about this.

The country was ready for change, wether it is the change of having a black president, someone who promises change, whatever....the majority wanted some sort of change.

We'll see how it all shakes out. I'm willing to give this administration a chance.

I have to say this, and I know, it's not a nice thing to say, but, I don't know if I can stomach 4 (or more) years of Michelle Obama. I just can't get passed her teeth/mouth. I know, I told you it was bad, but, hey, I'm being honest, right???

Oh, I'm also not happy with the way he is being placed so incredibly high on a pedestal. The higher you are, the further you can fall.
Wow, I don't think for one minute that because an AA man was elected president that there won't be any race issues in America now. I have eternal hope that there won't be race issues but I am honest and know that there will be people who will continue to "put black americans in their place" as well as "americans who will use their skin color to do less". Simply because an AA is elected president will not erase the race issue in America.

What is it about Michelles mouth and teeth don't you like?

In addition, I think this election was a referendum on the Republicans in office. The majority of Americans are sick of Republicans in the White House and the Republican ideology. It is good to have the pendulum swing the other way. It gives everyone an equal voice in how America progresses. It is still a great country.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:29 PM
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I am disgusted that we have a president with the least qualifications ever in one of our most trying times. I don't think this will do sqat for race issues. If anything the entitlement factor will go up. Let's see what it's like in 4 years but I am very frightened for this country.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:42 PM
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I'm not sure disapointed is the word to use for what I feel. I am to some degree in disbelief and am in absolute amazment that people voted Obama in. Don't get me wrong. I am a democrat for the most part. I usually vote democrat. But this election, I could not vote that way. Obama, in my opinion, is the wrong person for this job. Am I saying that we shouldn't have a black president? No. I think having a black/green/purple or polka dotted president would be fine if they were qualified. I could think of greater black men for the job.

What I am disappointed in most of all is the people that voted for Obama. Many of them doing so just because he is black. Unfortunately, many of those same people could not tell you where he stands on the issues. They just know that he is going to bring"change". Well, anyone coming into office is going to bring "change". Change is not always for the better!
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We are in trying times because Republican rule was bad for America.

Obama has a lot of work to do, but, he is smart and capable.

As far as entitlement spending goes, yes, it will probably go up, We have an awful lot of people who will be losing jobs and 50 million people not covered by health insurance. I sincerely hope that no one gets anything you don't have. That way, you will have nothing to resent.
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We are in trying times because Republican rule was bad for America.

Obama has a lot of work to do, but, he is smart and capable.

As far as entitlement spending goes, yes, it will probably go up, We have an awful lot of people who will be losing jobs and 50 million people not covered by health insurance. I sincerely hope that no one gets anything you don't have. That way, you will have nothing to resent.

I had heard that 45 million have no health insurance,but, of that number 20 million were illegal immigrants. I don't have time to check deeply into it, but, did find this, which I think is interesting.

45.7 Million Uninsured Americans
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:19 PM
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HE is OUR president elect and I will support him for that reason, However, I do not agree with everything that anyone does so when I disagree with him I will not surprise myself. I think the first big disagreements that people will have with him will come with those he choses to be his cabinet and they are to be announced within a week. God bless all of us because none of our problems are going to be solved overnight.
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Wow, I don't think for one minute that because an AA man was elected president that there won't be any race issues in America now. I have eternal hope that there won't be race issues but I am honest and know that there will be people who will continue to "put black americans in their place" as well as "americans who will use their skin color to do less". Simply because an AA is elected president will not erase the race issue in America.
I didn't mean to imply that there won't be race issues, such as someone not liking someone because of their skin color. As long as there are differences of any kind, race, age, weight, height, etc.... there will be "issues". I, personally, will not allow someone to use that excuse for their failure or lack of achievement. Oh darn, I can't get ahead because I'm black. WRONG....you can become the President of the United States.

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I am not as disappointed as I thought I would be, surprisingly. In a way, I'm glad. No longer can people use the "race" issue for not being able to better themselves. I have heard a lot of "the bad white man keeping us down". Well, I don't think that line can be used anymore.


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What is it about Michelles mouth and teeth don't you like?
I'm not sure if she just has too many teeth in her mouth, or if her top teeth don't meet the bottom,but, every time I see her I want to scream "get your teeth fixed!!!!" I think that is why she appears angry to some, when she has her lips closed. Strange I know, but, it's just how I feel
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:32 PM
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Wow, I don't think for one minute that because an AA man was elected president that there won't be any race issues in America now. I have eternal hope that there won't be race issues but I am honest and know that there will be people who will continue to "put black americans in their place" as well as "americans who will use their skin color to do less". Simply because an AA is elected president will not erase the race issue in America.

What is it about Michelles mouth and teeth don't you like?

In addition, I think this election was a referendum on the Republicans in office. The majority of Americans are sick of Republicans in the White House and the Republican ideology. It is good to have the pendulum swing the other way. It gives everyone an equal voice in how America progresses. It is still a great country.

I didn't read AIA's post that Obama being President would eliminate the race issues in total. Just that NOW, race shouldn't be able to be used as a excuse for not being able to succeed as Obama has shown that a bi-racial poor kid, raised by his grandparents who went to college on scholarships can become President....

And now, this moment in history should empower those people who have felt disenfranchised with the current administration, and past events.....

Michelle Obama always looks pissed off--even when she's smiling. That's just my opinion. She also reminds Julia Roberts--more teeth than she has mouth>
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I've been pretty bummed today. After I did my Target shopping, watched as much tv as I could stomach, I went back to bed.

I am glad for black people.

I think it's fair to judge a person by the company he keeps. It's okay if you form a relationship with a bomb-throwing terrorist? It's okay if your pastor shouts hatred about the US as long as no one can prove you were at church those days?

Alexander Tyler wrote in 1787 "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

We'll see if this is the beginning of the end.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:51 PM
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Bush was the beginning of the end. I'm hoping Obama can turn that around. After Bush, it's like trying to turn the sinking Titanic around, I'm afraid.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:07 PM
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I have to say I am deeply disappointed....I turned the tv off last night, I couldnt take anymore of it...And I keep thinking "How am I going to look at this man for four year?" I want to be able to give him the benefit of the doubt but right now I just cant.....With all his suspicious friends, I dont trust him..maybe he will prove himself and I will be able to...But right now I am frightened...we have the two most liberal democrats in DC running the United States...not so much frightened for myself but for my children's future....I didnt vote for him because of what I think he stands for...his race had nothing to do with it...and if he turns this US around I wont fail to give him the glory....But I have alot of doubts about the future.......I am glad for African Americans, I know they are so proud....but my heart just cant be happy....I am afraid of him and his beliefs.......Sherri
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I think it's fair to judge a person by the company he keeps. It's okay if you form a relationship with a bomb-throwing terrorist? It's okay if your pastor shouts hatred about the US as long as no one can prove you were at church those days?
I totally agree with this. That also is part of my problem with him.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:36 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel. We will see how it all turns out. What I don't like is the Dem Administration and a Dem Congress. I would feel more comfortable if Congress wasn't controlled by the Dems as well. But we will see.

I also think that expectations have been set so high by some of the Obama supporters that it will be impossible for him to live up to those, even if he ends up doing a decent job. I don't know how they will react when it starts to sink in that he can't possibly do all the things they thought he could.
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..And I keep thinking "How am I going to look at this man for four year?" I want to be able to give him the benefit of the doubt but right now I just cant.....With all his suspicious friends, I dont trust him..maybe he will prove himself and I will be able to...But right now I am frightened...

This is exactly how I felt when GWB was re-elected.....
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I am disgusted that we have a president with the least qualifications ever in one of our most trying times. I don't think this will do sqat for race issues. If anything the entitlement factor will go up. Let's see what it's like in 4 years but I am very frightened for this country.
Sure you are frightened. The republican politicians use scare tactics to make you that way. I was frightened 4 years ago......Looks like I DID have a reason to be frightened though.
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Sure you are frightened. The republican politicians use scare tactics to make you that way. I was frightened 4 years ago......Looks like I DID have a reason to be frightened though.
Well now we are in the "frightened" boat and can't see the light at the end of a LONG 4 year tunnel.
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Don't worry Sherri- by the end of his 8 years in office you will have hopefully gained respect for the CIC of this nation.
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Well now we are in the "frightened" boat and can't see the light at the end of a LONG 4 year tunnel.

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I am disappointed, but I fully expected Obama to win. Do I think this is the beginning of the end of the world? NO!!!! I don't believe that one man ( the President ) , either Dem or Republican can accomplish everything they promise. I don't place my faith in the office of the President. I don't blame every bad thing on the Pres, nor does he get all the glory for the good things. There is so much more involved. It isn't just one person who effects our economy, our values, etc.

No mater who is in office, I will pray for them as my God instructs me to in His word. No matter who is President, they need God's help, guidance, wisdom, etc. I pretty much think that you gotta be pretty crazy to even want to actually run for President. What a big headache!!!
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Don't worry Sherri- by the end of his 8 years in office you will have hopefully gained respect for the CIC of this nation.

I hope so too....but do I really have wait 8 yrs to decide...I would rather go for 4!!!!!!!!!!lolololol;Sherri
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I hope so too....but do I really have wait 8 yrs to decide...I would rather go for 4!!!!!!!!!!lolololol;Sherri
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While I think some of Obama's ideas will be great if he can accomplish them there is too much about him that I am unsure of. I hope that in the next 4 years he is able to turn around the economy and make the USA better for all and that some of my doubts are proven wrong.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:36 PM
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:57 PM
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I would like to personally invited all B.O. supporters on this thread to attend Neal Boortz's Church Of the Painful Truth. You find a station near you at Boortz.com You might find out what you are in for in the next 4 years.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:42 PM
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I would like to personally invited all B.O. supporters on this thread to attend Neal Boortz's Church Of the Painful Truth. You find a station near you at Boortz.com You might find out what you are in for in the next 4 years.
No thanks. I don't need to get an earfull from a libertarian whack job. Thanks anyway.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:58 PM
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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To my Republican friends, take heart. I've been in the position of wondering how the hell my side could lose FIVE times (Reagan/Carter, Reagan/Mondale, Bush/Dukakis, GWB/Gore, GWB/Kerry). Each time, I thought that it was (to quote REM) the end of the world as I know it. But we survived. The institution is strong. I think that the country will thrive under this administration. Even if you don't, though, we will survive. You will survive. Your party will live to fight another day.

Speaking from bitter and unfortunately long experience, I would in your shoes take some time and try to evaluate the election results. I think that you need to look beyond the superficials. Don't just say that people voted for Obama because he was black. Exit polls showed that race factored against him too, and I know few (actually, I don't know any) Democrats who said, "Yeah, I don't like him or know much about him but baby, he's black." Candidly, he was a very risky choice for the Democratic party. But he had a message of hope. Of vision.

That actually is very similar to the message that elected Ronald Reagan. It was a vision of a better and stronger America. I can understand why you might not see it now, because I sure as hell didn't see it when Reagan was elected.

And Obama didn't win just because of the economy, although that was certainly important, and should lead you to ask what the Republicans can do to make the party's economic message resonate more. After all, you asserted time and time again that Obama meant tax increases, which has been a pretty effective message in the past, and it didn't work this time. You have to ask yourself, "why didn't it work?"

So, you need to regroup and ask yourself what went wrong.

And ask yourself what went right. In my opinion, which you can feel free to reject, I thought that McCain was a really good choice as a Republican nominee. I didn't think, though, that his good points came across. It seemed sometimes like he was so determined to appease the base that he had no consistent or sincere message.

For example, McCain gave a wonderful concession speech. In my experience, actually, most concession speeches are pretty good. Gore gave a fabulous one too, albeit only after a bitter recount battle. I remember thinking when I heard Gore's concession speech, "Where was this man? Why didn't I hear this voice before?" Gore's problem was that he ran a safe campaign, and it stunted him from showing his personality and his sincerity. And it cost him votes. While I'm not looking to vote for the Most Popular Kid in High School, I do want to vote for someone who believes in the positions that he is espousing and understands them. Because people who believe in their positions and knows why they are important are more likely to stick by those positions.

I thought that last night when I heard McCain. I remember why I thought, in 2000, that he was so formidable, and why I hoped at that time the Republicans would choose the much more beatable GWB. (Which leads me to an ancillary point: Be careful of what you wish for. I'll bet that there were some Republicans who thought that Clinton was more of a threat than Obama, and who were thrilled when Obama was the nominee.)

I think that McCain was actually a very good choice for your party's nominee. I do not think that the other Republican candidates would have stood a chance. However, I do think McCain mangled the campaign. I think he ran GWB's type of campaign when he really wasn't GWB, and it made for an inconsistent and insincere message. I think if McCain had run the campaign that he did in 2000, he could have won.

Anyway, peace be to you. I fully understand that you feel mournful. While I may not agree with your viewpoints, I absolutely understand the sting of defeat. Bluntly, it sucks.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:24 PM
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To my Republican friends, take heart. I've been in the position of wondering how the hell my side could lose FIVE times (Reagan/Carter, Reagan/Mondale, Bush/Dukakis, GWB/Gore, GWB/Kerry). Each time, I thought that it was (to quote REM) the end of the world as I know it. But we survived. The institution is strong. I think that the country will thrive under this administration. Even if you don't, though, we will survive. You will survive. Your party will live to fight another day.

Speaking from bitter and unfortunately long experience, I would in your shoes take some time and try to evaluate the election results. I think that you need to look beyond the superficials. Don't just say that people voted for Obama because he was black. Exit polls showed that race factored against him too, and I know few (actually, I don't know any) Democrats who said, "Yeah, I don't like him or know much about him but baby, he's black." Candidly, he was a very risky choice for the Democratic party. But he had a message of hope. Of vision.

That actually is very similar to the message that elected Ronald Reagan. It was a vision of a better and stronger America. I can understand why you might not see it now, because I sure as hell didn't see it when Reagan was elected.

And Obama didn't win just because of the economy, although that was certainly important, and should lead you to ask what the Republicans can do to make the party's economic message resonate more. After all, you asserted time and time again that Obama meant tax increases, which has been a pretty effective message in the past, and it didn't work this time. You have to ask yourself, "why didn't it work?"

So, you need to regroup and ask yourself what went wrong.

And ask yourself what went right. In my opinion, which you can feel free to reject, I thought that McCain was a really good choice as a Republican nominee. I didn't think, though, that his good points came across. It seemed sometimes like he was so determined to appease the base that he had no consistent or sincere message.

For example, McCain gave a wonderful concession speech. In my experience, actually, most concession speeches are pretty good. Gore gave a fabulous one too, albeit only after a bitter recount battle. I remember thinking when I heard Gore's concession speech, "Where was this man? Why didn't I hear this voice before?" Gore's problem was that he ran a safe campaign, and it stunted him from showing his personality and his sincerity. And it cost him votes. While I'm not looking to vote for the Most Popular Kid in High School, I do want to vote for someone who believes in the positions that he is espousing and understands them. Because people who believe in their positions and knows why they are important are more likely to stick by those positions.

I thought that last night when I heard McCain. I remember why I thought, in 2000, that he was so formidable, and why I hoped at that time the Republicans would choose the much more beatable GWB. (Which leads me to an ancillary point: Be careful of what you wish for. I'll bet that there were some Republicans who thought that Clinton was more of a threat than Obama, and who were thrilled when Obama was the nominee.)

I think that McCain was actually a very good choice for your party's nominee. I do not think that the other Republican candidates would have stood a chance. However, I do think McCain mangled the campaign. I think he ran GWB's type of campaign when he really wasn't GWB, and it made for an inconsistent and insincere message. I think if McCain had run the campaign that he did in 2000, he could have won.

Anyway, peace be to you. I fully understand that you feel mournful. While I may not agree with your viewpoints, I absolutely understand the sting of defeat. Bluntly, it sucks.

Thank you very much...that was very gracious....and I really appreciate it!!!! Sherri
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:37 PM
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I'm not sure if she just has too many teeth in her mouth, or if her top teeth don't meet the bottom,but, every time I see her I want to scream "get your teeth fixed!!!!" I think that is why she appears angry to some, when she has her lips closed. Strange I know, but, it's just how I feel
It looks like she has an underbite or her jaw sticks out....something.....but it bothers me too.

I'm a democrat but not for Obama. I wasn't thrilled with McCain either, but felt he was the better choice. I tried to keep an open mind, not go ahead and assume he's another Bush, etc. but what I'm most proud of is that even though I'm a staunch democrat, I didn't blindly follow nor defend Obama. It amazed me so much to hear everyone from the beauty shop to the TV defend everything that was questionable about him!!! It disgusted me so much to hear people so nonchalantly blow off serious issues concerning him and his church, his friends/contacts, his experience, how whenever something came up he ALWAYS had no recollection of this or that. To me, that showed he has no accountability. Stand up for something!! Say, yeah, I knew what the preacher was preachin', I went to church there for 20 years, surely I can admit I knew what was going on. Or, renounce it--not because it might hurt your campaign, but because it's wrong.....on every level, to spew that kind of crap. Put your hand on your heart when you're pledging allegience to the AMERICAN flag, I'm with sher218, I'm scared of him and his beliefs. Ugh. Only time will tell what we're in for. Of course I am hoping for the best, the good Lord knows we need out of this horrible mess we're in.
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Thank you for saying what so many of us have been trying to say this entire campaign. I am a registered independent. Above all else I consider myself a patriot. I am socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. If you look at the two candidates resumes. . .McCain was actually the more progressive. Obama has appeared to be something in the past, but then never followed through on his supposed beliefs. I remeber the piece on PBS about his becoming the Harvard Law Review editor. He made the liberals believe he would support them, but then appointed 3 conservative editors. He has espoused one thing then turned his back on those that supported him and helped him get where he was. . .ie. Rev Wright. You never heard how his constituents felt about his performance. . .I found that suspect. At least with Palin, as much as people wanted to call her an idiot, her constituents supported her and were satisfied with her performance. To me that is like a good reference from your previous employer on a job resume. You never heard any of that about Obama. I seriously think that people that have supported him will feel betrayed, like has often happened in his past. At least with McCain. . .you knew where he really stood. I hope Obama does a good job now that he has been elected. . .but I have serious doubts as to his actual performance. . .based on his past actions.
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I'm not unhappy, just resigned. I never thought McCain would win - I would have been shocked if he had. I do feel some grief for what they've done to America.
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I am disappointed, but I fully expected Obama to win. Do I think this is the beginning of the end of the world? NO!!!! I don't believe that one man ( the President ) , either Dem or Republican can accomplish everything they promise. I don't place my faith in the office of the President. I don't blame every bad thing on the Pres, nor does he get all the glory for the good things. There is so much more involved. It isn't just one person who effects our economy, our values, etc.

No mater who is in office, I will pray for them as my God instructs me to in His word. No matter who is President, they need God's help, guidance, wisdom, etc. I pretty much think that you gotta be pretty crazy to even want to actually run for President. What a big headache!!!

Great post! I think that pretty much sums up how I feel. I woke up this morning in a fine mood as I don't count on the government to take care of me so it doesn't really matter who the president is. I was actually more concerned about the Senate and the House. I do fear Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Frank, et al.
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Great post! I think that pretty much sums up how I feel. I woke up this morning in a fine mood as I don't count on the government to take care of me so it doesn't really matter who the president is. I was actually more concerned about the Senate and the House. I do fear Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Frank, et al.
OMG! Barney Frank! If I was gay I would no way in hell want that guy to represent me!

He is the only politician that I can honestly say that I would want to kick his a*s! And I'm sure I could! What a sniveling, lisping, lying little piece of sh*t he is!

My all time favorite boss was a gay man. You never had to question anything with him. . . no grey areas. . .only black and white. He was a hard ass to work for but I totally appreciated him. I was his favorite and I found him sooo easy to work for. He knew exactly what he wanted and it was easy to meet his expectations because of that. By far, the best boss I ever had!!!
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:14 AM
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OMG! Barney Frank! If I was gay I would no way in hell want that guy to represent me!
Perhaps, then, you can understand my position: I'm female and no way in hell do I want Sarah Palin to represent me!
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Perhaps, then, you can understand my position: I'm female and no way in hell do I want Sarah Palin to represent me!

Exactly.....well said.

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