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Old 11-07-2008, 11:59 PM
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:00 AM
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:03 AM
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Omg ladies this is getting really scary now, Kolu is now hitting a all time low, comparing Barack Obama to Adolh Hitler, is she serious, she talks about him being a thug, she mentions black people, she has made so many racist remarks,,, But this is truly scary Hitler killed over 6 million Jews. What it might be 2008 for most people , and first I thought we were back in 1965 , but now we have gone further back to 1939-1945????. This is way to scary, can someone truly hate a newly elected president to sink this low..... Catherine
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:04 AM
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:07 AM
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Omg ladies this is getting really scary now, Kolu is now hitting a all time low, comparing Barack Obama to Adolh Hitler, is she serious, she talks about him being a thug, she mentions black people, she has made so many racist remarks,,, But this is truly scary Hitler killed over 6 million Jews. What it might be 2008 for most people , and first I thought we were back in 1965 , but now we have gone further back to 1939-1945????. This is way to scary, can someone truly hate a newly elected president to sink this low..... Catherine
Over 45 MILLION in this country with legalized abortion which Obama wholeheartedly supports throughout all NINE MONTHS of pregnancy. These 45 million had ZERO chance at life. Hitler was HORRIBLE, Sadam was HORRIBLE but so is pro choice legislation. Obama is 100% pro choice. Not a huge leap in the grand scheme of things. I don't want this to turn into an abortion debate but just want to point out some facts.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:07 AM
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Pathological narcissism, is not akin to typical narcissism—someone with a hedonistic or self-centered sense of self —but rather someone with a very weak sense of self. Obama’s narcissism is pathological.

Narcissists seek power. That is the whole purpose of their existence. Power for them is the elixir of life. Those who know about NPD can’t help but notice it in Obama’s posture, the tone of his voice, his demeanor and particularly his grandiose claims and unscripted adlibs.

Narcissim has degrees. When it is extreme it shows in the posture and the way the narcissist walks and talks. Obama's posture, exudes haughtiness. He is all puffery. Compare his posture to those of Hitler, Stalin and Saddam.

According to Vaknin, Obama displays the following behaviors, which are among the hallmarks of pathological narcissism:

- Subtly misrepresents facts and expediently and opportunistically shifts positions, views, opinions, and "ideals" (e.g., about campaign finance, re-districting). These flip-flops do not cause him overt distress and are ego-syntonic (he feels justified in acting this way). Alternatively, refuses to commit to a standpoint and, in the process, evidences a lack of empathy.

- Ignores data that conflict with his fantasy world, or with his inflated and grandiose self-image. This has to do with magical thinking. Obama already sees himself as president because he is firmly convinced that his dreams, thoughts, and wishes affect reality. Additionally, he denies the gap between his fantasies and his modest or limited real-life achievements (for instance, in 12 years of academic career, he didn't publish a single scholarly paper or book).

- Feels that he is above the law.

- Talks about himself in the 3rd person singluar or uses the regal "we" and craves to be the exclusive center of attention, even adulation

- Has a messianic-cosmic vision of himself and his life and his "mission".

- Sets ever more complex rules in a convoluted world of grandiose fantasies with its own language (jargon)

- Displays false modesty and unctuous "folksiness" but is unable to sustain these behaviors (the persona, or mask) for long. It slips and the true Obama is revealed: haughty, aloof, distant, and disdainful of simple folk and their lives.

- Sublimates aggression and holds grudges.

- Behaves as an eternal adolescent (e.g., his choice of language, youthful image he projects, demands indulgence and feels entitled to special treatment, even though his objective accomplishments do not justify it).
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Kathytheshopper are you missing a point, kolu is getting crazy. I am pro-choice and like you said this is not what the post is about, kindly stick to the issue or make up another thread about pro-life or pro-choice if you feel you want to discuss it, which is fine.. But again stick to the original post.. Thanks Catherine
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And if you read the Left Behind book series Obama sure fits the description of the Anti-Christ. Not saying he is, just that he fits the description in those books!
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:12 AM
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Kathytheshopper are you missing a point, kolu is getting crazy. I am pro-choice and like you said this is not what the post is about, kindly stick to the issue or make up another thread about pro-life or pro-choice if you feel you want to discuss it, which is fine.. But again stick to the original post.. Thanks Catherine
I'm not missing the point. You brought up a statistic for Hitler and I brought up a correlating one concerning Obama. That's on topic.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:13 AM
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May as well give our crazy ideas credit for the sort of place they are coming from.

http://nationatrisk.blogtownhall.com/

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2008/09/23...-of-a-fuehrer/

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Old 11-08-2008, 12:21 AM
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May as well give our crazy ideas credit for the sort of place they are coming from.

Townhall.com - Are We Condemning Ourselves?

Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer « No Compromise When it Comes to Being Right!

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That was an interesting, but scary, article.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:29 AM
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That was an interesting, but scary, article.

Didn't you know yet? Now that "we" have won, our plan is to destroy the United States. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:33 AM
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Didn't you know yet? Now that "we" have won, our plan is to destroy the United States. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Change is what you wanted. Don't you folks understand that change is not always GOOD???????
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:37 AM
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They don't even KNOW what they got in office! Even the PBS guys..night before election started admitting, "we really don't know much about this man".
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:38 AM
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They don't even KNOW what they got in office! Even the PBS guys..night before election started admitting, "we really don't know much about this man".
That's correct. We really don't know much about him and what we do know is scary!
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:11 AM
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And if you read the Left Behind book series Obama sure fits the description of the Anti-Christ. Not saying he is, just that he fits the description in those books!

How can you compare Obama to a character in a series of fictional book? They are made up by 2 guys in California.

And before you get all freaky with me... Yes I have read the series. And, if you reread the books you will see the believers in Christ are all vanished by the time the Antichrist takes office. Guess Obama isn't the antichrist after all.
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No, seriously, has he ever refuted that he ISN'T a radical muslim? (ETA: Okay.. has he ever answered the questions of him being affliliated with Radical Muslim groups and beliefs? Thanks jenh for pointing out my error )

Did I miss that answer from him? Did he ever even acknowledge or answer the questions about his background history with the Radical Muslim belief?

What about his clubs in College?

Why are his College records being held confidential?

I wonder if it is because then we would know what kind of affiliations he was a part of? (i.e. Radical Muslim Groups???)
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How can you compare Obama to a character in a series of fictional book? They are made up by 2 guys in California.

And before you get all freaky with me... Yes I have read the series. And, if you reread the books you will see the believers in Christ are all vanished by the time the Antichrist takes office. Guess Obama isn't the antichrist after all.
Pleeezzz -I dont' really think he's the antichrist. Geez. And I don't believe the Left Behind book series is "real". But, it's good reading.
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No, seriously, has he ever refuted that he ISN"T a racial muslim?
You mean radical don't you? Watch out, you'll get tagged as a racist on here! And no, I don't think he has denied it, but he does claim to be a Christian. Although Rev Wrights brand of Christianity is pretty "radical".
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They don't even KNOW what they got in office! Even the PBS guys..night before election started admitting, "we really don't know much about this man".

NO SH!T! With everything being ignored and unanswered or HUSHED up, hww COULD we know?

Reminds me a lot of Clinton's issues with the Whitewater Scandal.

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No, seriously, has he ever refuted that he ISN'T a radical muslim?
Ummm...no, why would he refute that he isn't a radical Muslim?

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Didn't you know yet? Now that "we" have won, our plan is to destroy the United States. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Nice going You weren't suppose to let the cat out of the bag until January 21st. Now "they" are on to us!
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You mean radical don't you? Watch out, you'll get tagged as a racist on here! And no, I don't think he has denied it, but he does claim to be a Christian. Although Rev Wrights brand of Christianity is pretty "radical".

Ack, you got me in the process of correcting it!
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No, seriously, has he ever refuted that he ISN'T a radical muslim?
How do you prove a negative? For example, if someone accused me of being a radical muslim, how would I disprove that?

You might be interested in the site the Obama campaign put up, which is kind of like a Snopes site to refute some of the many lies spread about him. Fight The Smears
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Thanks for the link.
But what a cowardly way to answer these questions the American Public has about these accusations. Why hasn't HE come out and answered them, instead of having his campaign put a website up on his behalf? Does he feel the American Public all have access to the internet??? How shallow.

Next thing I have an issue with. How can he DISPROVE he was a Radical Muslim?

By having everything out in the open. Release his records to Columbia and Harvard. Why has he had them closed and not open to viewing?

Being totally open and honest and answering the allegations would be the best way to show he is up front with nothing to hide. If he was a Radical Muslim at one time, with ties to that organization.. tell us! Everybody can change. If he is no longer involved in this activity, why would he be worried about talking about this part in his history. I would be more forgiving to know he has been this way, is open and honest about it, and is no longer involved or believed in such practices, then to be totally ignored about my concerns.

I am not totally convinced he doesn't have a lot to hide.
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Thanks for the link.
But what a cowardly way to answer these questions the American Public has about these accusations. Why hasn't HE come out and answered them, instead of having his campaign put a website up on his behalf? Does he feel the American Public all have access to the internet??? How shallow.

Next thing I have an issue with. How can he DISPROVE he was a Radical Muslim?

By having everything out in the open. Release his records to Columbia and Harvard. Why has he had them closed and not open to viewing?

Being totally open and honest and answering the allegations would be the best way to show he is up front with nothing to hide. If he was a Radical Muslim at one time, with ties to that organization.. tell us! Everybody can change. If he is no longer involved in this activity, why would he be worried about talking about this part in his history. I would be more forgiving to know he has been this way, is open and honest about it, and is no longer involved or believed in such practices, then to be totally ignored about my concerns.

I am not totally convinced he doesn't have a lot to hide.
How does someone who has never been a Muslim prove he is not a radical Muslim? Gee, you have me on that one.

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Over 45 MILLION in this country with legalized abortion which Obama wholeheartedly supports throughout all NINE MONTHS of pregnancy. These 45 million had ZERO chance at life. Hitler was HORRIBLE, Sadam was HORRIBLE but so is pro choice legislation. Obama is 100% pro choice. Not a huge leap in the grand scheme of things. I don't want this to turn into an abortion debate but just want to point out some facts.
Are you really that dumb? Abortion and the Halocaust are so far from being the same thing. Do you wonder why a thread was posted and your white robe picture graced it? Is it because you are such a sane, rational, educated person and we're all jealous?Is it because you are republican? Nope, it's because of comments like the above that are backed by something called stupidity. You are a fanatic and to even equate those 2 things is disgusting. AND there are legitimate reasons for late term abortions and if you can't see that, then stand up and take your head out!
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Over 45 MILLION in this country with legalized abortion which Obama wholeheartedly supports throughout all NINE MONTHS of pregnancy. These 45 million had ZERO chance at life. Hitler was HORRIBLE, Sadam was HORRIBLE but so is pro choice legislation. Obama is 100% pro choice. Not a huge leap in the grand scheme of things. I don't want this to turn into an abortion debate but just want to point out some facts.
Abortion is legal in this country. Obama has a lot of people who share his views,
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Change is what you wanted. Don't you folks understand that change is not always GOOD???????
We kind of noticed that over the past 8 years.
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Oh man, I guess I'm a mini-Hitler. I make that exact same face every time I smell something good in the air, or feel sunshine on my face in the winter. I sure hope my neighbors haven't been taking pictures, cuz I do it a lot!

As for the rest of this thread, I think the sane, rational Republicans have left the building and we're left with the ones wearing the 'end of the world' sandwich boards. They're so devastated that this country is no longer "theirs" that it's sent them a bit over the edge.

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You are a racist person and a liar to boot. I don't say those things lightly unless I have proof and I do. You will notice that you are posting with the only other person here who can support your idiotic rantings and you like it. Wierd.

Ask me why I call you racist and a liar? Ask me. I have proof. Real proof. I won't change the subject, I won't be testing you. I won't be pretending I don't know how to change a post. My son is gone to his Naval Academy interview so he won't be able to come in and delete a post for me without my knowledge. Ask me....or ask anyone here who can read.
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You are a racist person and a liar to boot. I don't say those things lightly unless I have proof and I do. You will notice that you are posting with the only other person here who can support your idiotic rantings and you like it. Wierd.

Ask me why I call you racist and a liar? Ask me. I have proof. Real proof. I won't change the subject, I won't be testing you. I won't be pretending I don't know how to change a post. My son is gone to his Naval Academy interview so he won't be able to come in and delete a post for me without my knowledge. Ask me....or ask anyone here who can read.
You are not worth my time. No more replies to you. Believe what you want, I really don't care.
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Wow. You guys have gone off the deep end. Talk to your therapists and refill your meds. You might need to have the dosage adjusted too.
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Thanks so much for your permission to believe what I want. I didn't need it but I thank you anyway.
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Wow. You guys have gone off the deep end. Talk to your therapists and refill your meds. You might need to have the dosage adjusted too.
I personally think there are a couple of people here who are in for a long 4 yrs. Geez, I'm glad I have a life and am not stewing over who won or lost the election. Sitting around thinking up any nasty thing to say about Obama. Trust me, when Bush was reelected I was upset but only about 5 min then figured why sit around ticked off about it. The people have spoken. Now the shoe is on the other foot, the peple have spoken Barack Obama is out President Elect. Move on quit being so hateful.
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Laughing my butt off!!!!
How can this be funny, but the KKK picture be so awful?
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There was nothing photoshopped about this picture.
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Ummm...no, why would he refute that he isn't a radical Muslim?

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Argh...

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How can this be funny, but the KKK picture be so awful?
Well the KKK picture was a personal insult directed towards me. Very distasteful. When I saw this thread I thought it would make an interesting read. So when the picture came up it made me laugh out loud so I typed my response. Political candidates of both sides are open targets. I laugh at funny Republican slams too, if they are truly funny. Love Will Ferrells Bush imitations, for example, and Tina Feys Sarah Palin ones.
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How does someone who has never been a Muslim prove he is not a radical Muslim? Gee, you have me on that one.

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Well, guess what I found. Out of the mouth of babes.

Now,if any of you know about christianity, then you know that he flat out disagrees with his own words saying he is a "Christian".

He sounds very confused about the faith he proclaims.

He says he is a Christian, but at the same time, he discredits John 3:16. Not sure how he can be the Christian he proclaims he is.
"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."

I am going to hope that what this sounds like, is not what he intended when he spoke this. "It's not formal, me getting on my knees," he says. "I think I have an ongoing conversation with God.... I'm constantly asking myself questions about what I'm doing, why I am doing it." The entire interview, he says he believes in God, but yet, follows each time up with that it all is up to him (Obama) and that I (Obama) am in control, that my (Obama) .. the whole thing is completely centered around himself when it comes to his destiny and future. READ it,..It goes against everything that the Christian faith believes in.

I wanted to hear it from him, quotes from him, not what Snopes says it is, or what factcheck (um, WHO runs that???) says it is. I found at least part of it. I still have not found quotes by him actually denying the Radical Muslim claims, and I still have not heard anyone here address my question on why his Harvard and Columbia records were requested to be sealed and not ever opened up for public scrutiny.

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Another interesting commentary:

"Obama can call himself anything he likes, but there is a clear requirement for one to qualify as a Christian and Obama doesn’t meet that requirement. One cannot deny central tenets of the Christian faith, including the deity and uniqueness of Christ as the sole mediator between God and Man and be a Christian. Such people do have a label applied to them in Scripture. They are called a “false prophet.”

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The complete uncut interview, by the reporter.

Even more interesting, and I feel is a better read.

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Old 11-08-2008, 04:14 PM
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The complete uncut interview, by the reporter.

Even more interesting, and I feel is a better read.

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It's apparent that you don't WANT to hear anything but that Obama's a Muslim, even though you have ZERO evidence that he is and are disregarding all the evidence that he isn't. I don't know why you are so determined to believe that, but it's clear no one will change your mind. You're invested in that falsehood. That's a shame, but I guess you need to get used to the idea that the president, in your opinion, is a Muslim.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:37 PM
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Is there is requirement that you have to be a Christian to be President of the US?

I believe that he is a Christian because he has said so but it wouldn't matter to me anyway.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:46 PM
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Is there is requirement that you have to be a Christian to be President of the US? .

Didn't you get the memo?
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:56 PM
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Is there is requirement that you have to be a Christian to be President of the US?

I believe that he is a Christian because he has said so but it wouldn't matter to me anyway.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Oh I know...lets start a rumor that he's a Jew! That should go over even better!
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:03 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking.

Oh I know...lets start a rumor that he's a Jew! That should go over even better!
Nah, the RNC ran that by focus groups and found the Muslim rumor got much more buy-in.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:18 PM
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Kathytheshopper are you missing a point, kolu is getting crazy. I am pro-choice and like you said this is not what the post is about, kindly stick to the issue or make up another thread about pro-life or pro-choice if you feel you want to discuss it, which is fine.. But again stick to the original post.. Thanks Catherine
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:49 PM
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It's apparent that you don't WANT to hear anything but that Obama's a Muslim, even though you have ZERO evidence that he is and are disregarding all the evidence that he isn't. I don't know why you are so determined to believe that, but it's clear no one will change your mind. You're invested in that falsehood. That's a shame, but I guess you need to get used to the idea that the president, in your opinion, is a Muslim.

I agree wih you. To some it wouldn't matter if he came right out and said it. So why bother. And like another poster said since when does it matter what religion a President is. Last time I checked there were no religious requirements for a president. Just more crap for the Obama haters to spew.
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Old 11-08-2008, 06:53 PM
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cjs216 . Listen Catherine if you feel more comfortable being in the company and agreeing with Kolu and Kathetheshoppers views and ideas who is calling the kettle black now. As the famous quote goes birds of a feather flock together.. I am so gald so many of us me including is not part of your evil flock of being racist in 2008.. Catherine
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:55 PM
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I didn't bring up that he was a Christian.. I believe someone else did. Let's see...oh that is right! It was on the snoopes link that kvmj told me to knock myself out with.

If any of you that are coming down on me so rudely, would have READ these links, you would understand why my replies are as such.

He made the proclomation that he is Christian. I honestly could care less if he is Muslim, Christian, believes in judiasm or whatever.. (RADICAL Muslim being the exception)
BUT if you say you believe in something and you shout it out that your beliefs are founded in TRADITIONAL Chsistian beliefs and values, don't open up your mouth and start spouting off what you don't know about. He did that. It is very obvious he does not know what he is talking about, and he is saying he is one thing..but is saying something totally differnt (universalism?)

I am not a practicing "Christian" but I know the faith and what the bible says (which I am guessing I have read way more times than he has=and he proclaims to read it a lot).

So, while you would like to believe that I am being ridiculous, it wasn't me who made an absolute ass of myself in that interview. It was Obama, our President elect, that says he believes in something that he absolutely knows nothing about.
To me that is scary!

What else will he proclaim that he knows extensively about when he is left in charge to make the decisions.. and he proves (by just opening his mouth) that he knows absolutely nothing.

Yes, I believe that he may just be our false prophet. I mean he has these very smart women that have replied, snowballed into making excuses and believing what he says. You all are too smart for this.. come on!
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:57 PM
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He IS a Christian, that's why it's so sad that you're so determined to believe he's not.

I don't know who thinks he's a prophet, period, except the people trying to destroy him. I guess that makes them feel better about themselves for some reason.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:05 PM
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If any of you that are coming down on me so rudely, would have READ these links, you would understand why my replies are as such.
I may be wrong here, but two of the links that I saw you post were BLOGS. And IMO a blog is just like any other blog....it carries the opinion of the author. And I'm sure we all know what they say about opinions.

It sure doesn't make it a fact just because it's posted on the internet.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:07 PM
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Truble, I was only trying to find information DISPROVING the rumours that he is a Radical Muslim. My intentions was not to prove.

But I wanted to hear HIM disproving it, not Snopes, or factcheck or another secondary source.

What I found, thanks to kvmj, was straight from the horses mouth. Well, now, I can say "Jackasses" Mouth. Because that is what he made himself out to be when he opened up his mouth at length and proceeded to shove in our face his "facts" on being a Christian, when in fact he was completely and totally not telling the truth.

It's just that none of you, as of yet, have answered if he has or has not answered if he was or still is a Radical Muslim. Period. end of story..

But, doesn't surprise me.. most of my questions were never answered as well..no matter how many times I have asked them.

My belief, is because most of what you know is from what other people have told you. Not what you have read or heard first hand from this man when it comes to the issues I brought up.

How much of this man's election was based on hype?
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