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Old 11-08-2008, 11:15 AM
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Exclamation Jennifer Granholm??? Is he NUTS???

So Obama named Granholm to his transition team on the economy?

Hello! She is HORRIBLE. She has done the state of Michigan NO favors, economy wise. She is a socialist who keeps raising taxes here to the point we are drowning! With her influence all states economies should be going down the tubes at breakneck speed before too long.

Heck the running joke in this state is when we remove the Canadian trash, don't forget Granholm. (for those who don't know, Michigan takes Canada's garbage by the truckload)

Her personal statement while running for office was "You'll Be Blown Away!" Well that we are. People are leaving the state in droves, they are blowing right on out of here. Michigan is on its last breath. The other saying here is 'Last one out, turn the lights off".
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Is this the governor? I'm not familiar with her, but, I do know the status of Michigan is not very good. Lots of automakers cutting jobs, etc.
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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So Obama named Granholm to his transition team on the economy?

Hello! She is HORRIBLE. She has done the state of Michigan NO favors, economy wise. She is a socialist who keeps raising taxes here to the point we are drowning! With her influence all states economies should be going down the tubes at breakneck speed before too long.

Heck the running joke in this state is when we remove the Canadian trash, don't forget Granholm. (for those who don't know, Michigan takes Canada's garbage by the truckload)

Her personal statement while running for office was "You'll Be Blown Away!" Well that we are. People are leaving the state in droves, they are blowing right on out of here. Michigan is on its last breath. The other saying here is 'Last one out, turn the lights off".
This would be laughable if it wasn't sooooo sad. Yes, the state has gotten worse since she's been the governor. And she's going to advise him???????? OH - MY - GOSH. Pathetic.
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Jennifer Granholm - Ballotpedia

I know it's Wikipedia, but, it does give some info. we can look into.
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:52 AM
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People are leaving the state in droves, they are blowing right on out of here. Michigan is on its last breath. .
Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that could have something to do with the death of the American auto industry?

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Old 11-08-2008, 11:53 AM
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Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that could have something to do with the death of the American auto industry?

Maureen
I'm sure that's part of it. But isn't that part of the governors job? Economics, etc...
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:03 PM
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Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that could have something to do with the death of the American auto industry?

Maureen
A little, but not as much as you would think. People all over the state are leaving in droves. In my area, up north, people are leaving constantly too. It is statewide. Our headcount at school numbers are dropping massively due to people leaving the state, so our funding is dropping right along with it.

There are quite simply no jobs that you can support a family on. Unemployment rates keep going up, we are currently at 8.7%. second highest in the nation.

Granholm has done nothing positive for the economy here. If he wanted to tap her so badly, let her do health and human services, at least she is relatively good at that.

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Old 11-08-2008, 12:12 PM
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From a grassroots site I visit. (As far as I can check the list is accurate)

"Let's see, we're in a deep hole, so lets round up a committee of those types that got us there (for the most part) and see what we get for advice

Obama's Economic Advisory Team:
David Bonior: former 13-term Michigan Congressman
Warren Buffett: billionaire CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway
Roel Campos: Washington Att’y, former SEC commission member, former broadcasting exec
William Daley: former Commerce Sec., JP Morgan Chase exec
William Donaldson: former SEC Chairman
Roger Ferguson Jr.: CEO of TIAA-CREF, former Federal Reserve vice-chairman
Jennifer Granholm: Gov of Michigan
Anne Mulcahy: CEO of Xerox
Richard Parsons: CEO of Time-Warner, Citigroup board member
Penny Pritzker: Hyatt Corp executive
Robert Reich: former Labor Sec
Robert Rubin: CEO of Citigroup, former Treasury Sec.
Eric Schmidt: Google CEO
Lawrence Summers: Former Treasury Sec.
Laura D’Andrea Tyson: former Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors & National Economic Council
Antonio Villaraigosa: Mayor of Los Angeles
Paul Volcker: Former Federal Reserve Chairman
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:16 PM
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It's moved past scary to downright terrifying. Thugs begetting more thugs..over & over again.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:08 PM
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She is a rather odd choice to highlight.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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From a grassroots site I visit. (As far as I can check the list is accurate)

"Let's see, we're in a deep hole, so lets round up a committee of those types that got us there (for the most part) and see what we get for advice

Obama's Economic Advisory Team:
David Bonior: former 13-term Michigan Congressman
Warren Buffett: billionaire CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway
Roel Campos: Washington Att’y, former SEC commission member, former broadcasting exec
William Daley: former Commerce Sec., JP Morgan Chase exec
William Donaldson: former SEC Chairman
Roger Ferguson Jr.: CEO of TIAA-CREF, former Federal Reserve vice-chairman
Jennifer Granholm: Gov of Michigan
Anne Mulcahy: CEO of Xerox
Richard Parsons: CEO of Time-Warner, Citigroup board member
Penny Pritzker: Hyatt Corp executive
Robert Reich: former Labor Sec
Robert Rubin: CEO of Citigroup, former Treasury Sec.
Eric Schmidt: Google CEO
Lawrence Summers: Former Treasury Sec.
Laura D’Andrea Tyson: former Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors & National Economic Council
Antonio Villaraigosa: Mayor of Los Angeles
Paul Volcker: Former Federal Reserve Chairman

Who would YOU suggest he include -- besides Ron Paul, I mean.

My bet is that if he didn't include a bunch of business people, you'd be griping that he should have.

We get it -- everything Obama does is wrong. Now you know how the rest of use felt about Bush.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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I don't know much about her, except that she must know Michigan and Obama/Biden must have gotten to know her because she helped Biden prep for the debate.

Michigan is a unique state due to how the downturn in the auto industry and sending jobs out of the country has affected the population, which has one of the highest unemployment rates in the US. So, I would think the Gov of that state is pretty well versed on what works and what doesn't work in a state that has been drastically affected by modern changes in the workplace.

I have no idea otherwise, and I really don't care at this point until I see some sort of outcome. Not like my opinion will matter right now.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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Who would YOU suggest he include -- besides Ron Paul, I mean.

My bet is that if he didn't include a bunch of business people, you'd be griping that he should have.

We get it -- everything Obama does is wrong. Now you know how the rest of use felt about Bush.
Off the top of my head would be

Nouriel Roubini
Peter Schiff

Both of these men had predicted that the housing bubble crisis and the developing economic slowdown
was going to occur a couple of years ago.
We should at least listen to what these people are saying and their ideas about how to proceed.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:57 PM
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Off the top of my head would be

Nouriel Roubini
Peter Schiff

Both of these men had predicted that the housing bubble crisis and the developing economic slowdown
was going to occur a couple of years ago.
We should at least listen to what these people are saying and their ideas about how to proceed.

And, how do you know they aren't being listened to. I will take your word that they predicted the problems we are in now. Does that mean they would know how to get us out of it? One can only have so many people on an advisory team. Perhaps Obama knows these two people and doesn't like them? I don't know and I find it hard to imagine that you do at this point.
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Old 11-08-2008, 06:58 PM
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She should be very well versed in what doesn't work, since she orchestrates what doesn't work at all for Michigan. She is the root of A LOT of MI's problems.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:02 PM
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She should be very well versed in what doesn't work, since she orchestrates what doesn't work at all for Michigan. She is the root of A LOT of MI's problems.
Oh, I didn't realize someone who took office in 2003 could influence problems that began in 2001. She must be really good.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:04 PM
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Wanted to add that the whole state is having job issues, not JUST downstate where the auto workers are. Yes, we have some shops up here that make accessory parts for autos, but not that many. Like I said before, this is a statewide problem.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:09 PM
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Wanted to add that the whole state is having job issues, ...
Much of it has to do with MI jobs getting outsourced overseas to cheaper labor by corporations who have been getting tax breaks on top of it all. I am hoping MI will be reinvented, it is a great place to live.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:57 PM
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Much of it has to do with MI jobs getting outsourced overseas to cheaper labor by corporations who have been getting tax breaks on top of it all. I am hoping MI will be reinvented, it is a great place to live.

So am I. Something has to break soon.
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wow so now Obama choose Jennifer Granholm and once again all the republicans think its a bad choice. Its seems like whomever Obama is choosing to help him run our country every single one of you finds faults with the person.. So let me get this straight Jennifer Granholm no good, not enough experience,,, but yet You were willing to vote for Sarah Palin???????? what who is so out there in space... GIve me a break.... Like it not OBama will be the president and he will choose who he deems responsible, its his decision, as was you much beloved Bush;s to decide who helped him and we all know now where all that help took us..... Catherine
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Oh btw Kolu thinks Jennifer Granholm is a thug as well.... Truly sad.... Catherine
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:51 PM
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I wouldn't give a rats ass who was president. If they picked Granholm for this position, I would still think they were being unwise. Like I said, she is good at some things like health and human services, but ecomonic issues.... no.

Oh, and Bush is not beloved by me, nor am I a republican.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:18 PM
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And, how do you know they aren't being listened to. I will take your word that they predicted the problems we are in now. Does that mean they would know how to get us out of it? One can only have so many people on an advisory team. Perhaps Obama knows these two people and doesn't like them? I don't know and I find it hard to imagine that you do at this point.
No need to take my word for it..you can just google the names and find lots of articles and youtube videos.
Nouriel Roubini
Peter Schiff
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:24 PM
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Who would YOU suggest he include -- besides Ron Paul, I mean.

My bet is that if he didn't include a bunch of business people, you'd be griping that he should have.

We get it -- everything Obama does is wrong. Now you know how the rest of use felt about Bush.
My one suggestion would be Mark Warner. I think when he was governor of Virginia, he did an excellent job.

Warner is not a lawyer, he wasn't in politics before becoming governor. He's a self-made millionaire business owner and he ran the Commonwealth of Virginia like a business. He's a very smart man.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:41 AM
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Warner is not a lawyer, he wasn't in politics before becoming governor. He's a self-made millionaire business owner and he ran the Commonwealth of Virginia like a business. He's a very smart man.
Actually, Mark Warner graduated from Harvard Law in 1980. He worked on Capitol Hill for Chris Dodd for a while. He managed Doug Wilder's gubernatorial campaign in 1989, was the chair of the Virginia Democratic Party, and ran for the Senate himself in 1996, all before before running and winning the governorship in 2001. I agree he's a smart man. I had hoped he would run for president himself this time.
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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wow so now Obama choose Jennifer Granholm and once again all the republicans think its a bad choice. ..... Catherine

I don't think you can accurately say ALL Republicans think it's a bad choice. Personally, I don't know enough about the woman to say one way or another. Isn't that "ALL" mentality what we're trying to get away from??? Ya know, "you're a Republican (fill in any other word) so you must not like her (again, fill in another word).
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