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Old 11-11-2008, 09:28 PM
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Props to President Bush -

All accounts show he is handling the transition as a true statesman.

Today I heard him say, "He (Obama) is as much of an American as I am."
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That was a very nice statement for President Bush to say.. Peace.. Catherine
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:11 AM
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Where did you hear him say this? Can you cite your source?
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:50 AM
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I agree that Bush has handled this transition with remarkable grace and has been most impressive.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:50 AM
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"The election of Barack Obama is an historic moment for our country. There are a lot of people in America who did not believe they would ever see this day. It is good for our country that people have hope in the system and feel vested in the future and President-elect Obama has a great opportunity," Bush said. "I really do wish him all the best. I am just as American as he is American, and it is good for our country that the president succeeds."

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Old 11-12-2008, 11:25 AM
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I did not expect anything less of President and Mrs. Bush. They are classy people. So unlike the way Clinton and his croonies left the White House.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:37 AM
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I did not expect anything less of President and Mrs. Bush. They are classy people. So unlike the way Clinton and his croonies left the White House.
And how exactly do you think the Clintons left the White House. All the garbage about taking the ws off the typewriters, stealing furniture was all made up.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:01 PM
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The final, official report from the Government Accounting Office was released on June 11, 2002. The 220 page document says there was damage, although not as much as some of the early reports had suggested. The GAO says the damage included 62 missing computer keyboards, 26 cell phones, two cameras, ten antique doorknobs and several presidential medallions and office signs. The damage estimate was about $20,000. Clinton critics say the report proves that the departing Clinton staff members acted recklessly and disrespectfully. Clinton supporters say the report shows that the allegations of vandalism were exaggerated and that there were similar incidents when Clinton took over the White House from the staff of George Bush.

The GAO report concludes that even though damage was verified and that some of it appeared to have been intentional, there was not clear evidence of who was responsible for it.

This has been a subject of contention since President Bush took office. There were reports of vandalism, graffiti, and obscene messages in White House offices by outgoing Clinton staffers. Bush downplayed the reports saying he wanted to move on with the presidency. Clinton supporters, however, charged that the story was not true and that the Bush forces had made up the story to make Bush's staff look better than Clinton's. Former President Clinton offered to pay for any damage and his supporters called for an investigation.

May 18, 2001 the General Accounting Office issued a three-page letter that said that it was unable confirm the damage largely to a lack of records from the White House. The letter also said that the condition of the White House offices was "...consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy." As to any details of damage, the GAO letter said For supporters of former President Clinton, that seemed to end the matter. They proclaimed victory, called the whole story an urban legend, and asked the White House to apologize.

In response, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer outlined the details of the damage, most of which was in the Eisenhower Execitive Office Building adjacent to the White House. On June 3, 2001 The Washington Post quoted Fleischer as saying that the damage included the removal of the letter "W" from 100 computer keyboards, five missing brass nameplates with the presidential seal on them, 75 telephones with cover plates missing or apparently intentionally plugged into the wrong wall outlets, six fax machines relocated in the same way, ten cut phone lines, two historic door knobs missing, overturned desks and furniture in about 20 percent of the offices, obscene graffiti in six offices, and eight 14-foot loads of usable office supplies recovered from the trash. According to Fleischer, there was one incident in the White House itself, a photocopy machine that had copies of naked people hidden in the paper tray so they would come out from time to time with other copies.

Critics of the Bush administration said they didn't trust the White House report.

On June 5, 2001, the General Accounting Office announced that it had launched an investigation into the matter, which was released on June 11, 2002.

There was a companion story that Air Force One had been the victim of the outgoing Clintons and that numerous items from aboard the plane had been pilfered. President Bush himself told reporters aboard Air Force one on February 12, 2001, that the report was not true. According to Salon Washington correspondent Jake Tipper, Bush brought up the subject because the chief steward aboard Air Force One told him the allegations were false.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:53 PM
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There was a companion story that Air Force One had been the victim of the outgoing Clintons and that numerous items from aboard the plane had been pilfered. President Bush himself told reporters aboard Air Force one on February 12, 2001, that the report was not true. According to Salon Washington correspondent Jake Tipper, Bush brought up the subject because the chief steward aboard Air Force One told him the allegations were false.
Wasn't it the Clinton administration that took a bunch of robes or something??? It's been a while, I don't remember it as well as when I first heard it.


I'm not surprised how President and First Lady Bush are handling things. They are very classy (except for when he spit )
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:12 PM
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This has been a subject of contention since President Bush took office. There were reports of vandalism, graffiti, and obscene messages in White House offices by outgoing Clinton staffers. Bush downplayed the reports saying he wanted to move on with the presidency. Clinton supporters, however, charged that the story was not true and that the Bush forces had made up the story to make Bush's staff look better than Clinton's. Former President Clinton offered to pay for any damage and his supporters called for an investigation.

May 18, 2001 the General Accounting Office issued a three-page letter that said that it was unable confirm the damage largely to a lack of records from the White House. The letter also said that the condition of the White House offices was "...consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy." As to any details of damage, the GAO letter said For supporters of former President Clinton, that seemed to end the matter. They proclaimed victory, called the whole story an urban legend, and asked the White House to apologize.

In response, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer outlined the details of the damage, most of which was in the Eisenhower Execitive Office Building adjacent to the White House. On June 3, 2001 The Washington Post quoted Fleischer as saying that the damage included the removal of the letter "W" from 100 computer keyboards, five missing brass nameplates with the presidential seal on them, 75 telephones with cover plates missing or apparently intentionally plugged into the wrong wall outlets, six fax machines relocated in the same way, ten cut phone lines, two historic door knobs missing, overturned desks and furniture in about 20 percent of the offices, obscene graffiti in six offices, and eight 14-foot loads of usable office supplies recovered from the trash. According to Fleischer, there was one incident in the White House itself, a photocopy machine that had copies of naked people hidden in the paper tray so they would come out from time to time with other copies.

Critics of the Bush administration said they didn't trust the White House report.

On June 5, 2001, the General Accounting Office announced that it had launched an investigation into the matter, which was released on June 11, 2002.

There was a companion story that Air Force One had been the victim of the outgoing Clintons and that numerous items from aboard the plane had been pilfered. President Bush himself told reporters aboard Air Force one on February 12, 2001, that the report was not true. According to Salon Washington correspondent Jake Tipper, Bush brought up the subject because the chief steward aboard Air Force One told him the allegations were false.
Damage to the White House during trasition from Clinton to Bush-Truth!
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:23 PM
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Wasn't it the Clinton administration that took a bunch of robes or something??? It's been a while, I don't remember it as well as when I first heard it.

Ah, now it's coming back to me

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Old 11-12-2008, 07:10 PM
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Isn't this just typical? Democrats say something nice about the outgoing Republican president and some of the board Republicans have to crap all over it.

Here's something else I'll say about Bush: he's shown a lot more class in this transition that some of you Republicans have. Not that he'd have to try too hard to do that.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:09 PM
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Isn't this just typical? Democrats say something nice about the outgoing Republican president and some of the board Republicans have to crap all over it.

Here's something else I'll say about Bush: he's shown a lot more class in this transition that some of you Republicans have. Not that he'd have to try too hard to do that.

And your opinion matters why??? Oh, never mind -- it doesn't.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:22 PM
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Proving my point.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:58 PM
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Isn't this just typical? Democrats say something nice about the outgoing Republican president and some of the board Republicans have to crap all over it.

Here's something else I'll say about Bush: he's shown a lot more class in this transition that some of you Republicans have. Not that he'd have to try too hard to do that.
I'm sorry, but I must have taken nightowls post the wrong way, because I didn't take it as a compliment at all.

To me, it was laced with sarcasm and honestly, what was quoted was definitely meant to point out something negative.

Just my take. Anyone else?

So, looks like the Reps didn't start this one after all...

But we are just blamed for it.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:04 PM
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I'm sorry, but I must have taken nightowls post the wrong way, because I didn't take it as a compliment at all.

To me, it was laced with sarcasm and honestly, what was quoted was definitely meant to point out something negative.

Just my take. Anyone else?

So, looks like the Reps didn't start this one after all...

But we are just blamed for it.
If that's what you really took from it, then I think you were the one looking for trouble. How about my post? Did you think I was being sarcastic, too?

Sheesh.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:16 PM
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How on earth could anyone have taken my post the wrong way?

If was an Effing complement to the man. I didn't get the quote exactly right because I watched him on the television. But the message was the same.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:26 PM
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How on earth could anyone have taken my post the wrong way?
Got me, but I guess I just don't think like a Republican.
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TO the op Nightowlrn, I personally did not see any negative remarks in your orginal thread or post at all. I also wanted to say or ask did anyone see John MCCain on the Jay Leno show last nite. Honestly he truly truly came across as a very nice decent funny man, who sadly I judged him because he is a Republican , however what really got to me was because, he was talking how when he was a prisoner . Jay asked him if he had any special memories to remember Veterans day and he told the story of a fellow prisoner of his, whom as sewed a small United States Flag, He then went on to say how everynite before they all ate their simple supper soup, I believe he mentioned that they all the prisoners would salute the flag and repeat the pledge of allience.. However sadly the the guards found that small little flag and the prisoner was taken out and beaten pretty bad. McCain went on to say that even after receiving a terrible beating, the man came back into the jail cell and started to sew another flag... That to me truly makes me so proud to be American and we should truly stop the bickering and unite as a nation.. Whether you wanted McCain or Obama we all would be better American citizens to unite.. A sincere peace to all... Catherine
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:11 PM
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How on earth could anyone have taken my post the wrong way?

If was an Effing complement to the man. I didn't get the quote exactly right because I watched him on the television. But the message was the same.
I agree with you. I took it as nothing but a compliment. Sad that people feel the need to read things into it that aren't there.

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If that's what you really took from it, then I think you were the one looking for trouble. How about my post? Did you think I was being sarcastic, too?

Sheesh.
no, not at all. I didn't take yours the wrong way... I didn't sense sarcasm at all.
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:53 PM
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How on earth could anyone have taken my post the wrong way?

If was an Effing complement to the man. I didn't get the quote exactly right because I watched him on the television. But the message was the same.

I don't know, it just sounded like you were being sarcastic about his statement...

See, there's that "internet, can't hear inflection" kind of thing.

Look at it differently and see how it could have sounded..maybe you will see what I am talking about.

No harm done.. really. I don't take offense to statements that are even meant to be sarcastic. I just voice and then move along..
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:06 PM
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I never took your original post as being mean or condescending at all. I don't know why it is possibly being perceived that way I think people are taking previous posts on other threads and putting their own spin on your post. You know the old saying, no good deed goes unpunished.....just proven once again.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:26 AM
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You know, I owe you an apology Nightowl.

I didn't respond the first time until I read your op over and over, just to make sure. Then I waited to hear what others were saying.


I then thought about it, but never really took the time to look at the ariticle and read what you must have been quoting, which I should have taken the time to do.

I am sorry that i jumped in and acted in a defensive nature, even with me pondering your meaning. Poor judgement. I am sorry to have offended and incredibly sorry to have thrown the thread (which was already on the skids with the Clinton stuff, but still) off track and to turn a positive into a negative. I have found that I have become skeptical on this forum. I expect, most times, to see a thread start out negative, or end up negative, and now I find I have contributed the same.

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